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Gay groups want Southern Baptists to apologize
Go Q notes ^ | 8 Jun 2011 | Matt Comer

Posted on 06/09/2011 3:02:36 AM PDT by Cronos

A new coalition announced that it was starting a petition today on the GetEQUAL website (www.getequal.org), calling on the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) to apologize for the harm its teachings are causing the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) community.

Pointing to current teachings and ministries of the SBC, the coalition is attempting to shed light on harmful teachings and actions that individual congregations, pastors, and SBC leadership have embraced, targeting the LGBT community — particularly LGBT youth. These words and actions include everything from counseling parents to kick gay youth out of their homes to the horrifying practices of its “ex-gay” program. In fact, the Southern Baptist Convention is one of the nation’s leading promoters of the so-called “ex-gay” industry, currently being profiled by CNN as part of a three-part series called “The Sissy Boy Experiment.”

The Southern Baptist Convention will be meeting next week in Phoenix for their annual convention, and petition signatures will be delivered there.

“We call on the Southern Baptist Convention to stop misusing the Bible to promote religion-based bigotry and start recognizing the enormous pain and suffering caused by its mistreatment of LGBT people, particularly vulnerable youth,” said Dr. Jack McKinney, a former Southern Baptist minister and spokesperson for Faith in America. “History has not been kind to the Southern Baptist Convention’s record on minorities, and it is making the same awful mistake today by perpetuating abuse against gay people.”

“The anti-gay teachings of the Southern Baptist church nearly led me to suicide,” said Dr. Jerry Stephenson, a former Southern Baptist minister and board member for Truth Wins Out. “I entered an ‘ex-gay’ ministry that falsely claimed I could change my sexual orientation and this led to a deep depression. Only after I accepted my true self was I able to reconcile my faith and sexual orientation. The Southern Baptist Convention needs to apologize because its policies are hurting real people.”

This petition drive is being organized by the Association of Welcoming and Affirming Baptists, Believe OutLoud, Faith in America, GetEQUAL, Soulforce and Truth Wins Out.

“Given the arc of justice and the trajectory of history, there is no doubt the SBC will offer a full-fledged apology to the LGBT community in the future,” reads a letter that petition signers will send to SBC’s leadership. “We ask the Southern Baptist Convention to prayerfully consider whether the motive behind the mistreatment and harm toward LGBT individuals, especially youth, is born of political gain and agendas rather the spirit of Christ.”

“The time for this discrimination — especially the insidious bigotry that has been wrapped in the cloak of faith — to end. It’s time for religious entities like the Southern Baptist Convention to apologize for the immense harm they’ve done to our community, and to stop providing cover for politicians to disguise their political bigotry as courageous,” said Robin McGehee, executive director of GetEQUAL. “Stop it now, apologize now, and let us all move forward together.”

Further details about the petition delivery next week in Phoenix will be available in the next few days.

GetEQUAL is a national, direct action lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender civil rights organization. Emphasizing direct action and people power, the mission of GetEQUAL is to empower the LGBT community and its allies to take action to demand full legal and social equality, and to hold accountable those who stand in the way. For more information on GetEQUAL, please visit: http://www.getequal.org. You can follow GetEQUAL on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/getequal, on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/GetEQUAL, or on YouTube at http://www.youtube.com/getequal.

Faith In America was formed as a 501(c)(3) nonprofit educational organization in 2005 to effectively counter-message the bigotry, prejudice and hostility toward the LGBT community being sold to the public for several decades under the guise of religious belief and religious teaching.

Truth Wins Out is a non-profit organization that fights anti-gay religious extremism. TWO monitors anti-LGBT organizations, documents their lies and exposes their leaders as charlatans. TWO specializes in turning information into action by organizing, advocating and fighting for LGBT equality. TWO’s goal is to create a world where LGBT individuals can live openly, honestly and true to themselves.


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And the gays now target another Christian denomination. Christian brothers and sisters -- this, just like the attack on the ECUSA, PCUSA etc. is not an attack on just one denomination but a wider attack on us all..

Read the last bit of who are these guys attacking the SBC (i.e. attacking us)

Truth Wins Out is a non-profit organization that fights anti-gay religious extremism. TWO monitors anti-LGBT organizations, documents their lies and exposes their leaders as charlatans. TWO specializes in turning information into action by organizing, advocating and fighting for LGBT equality. TWO’s goal is to create a world where LGBT individuals can live openly, honestly and true to themselves.

1 posted on 06/09/2011 3:02:40 AM PDT by Cronos
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It's incredible where they dig up these folks to attack Christians
“The anti-gay teachings of the Southern Baptist church nearly led me to suicide,” said Dr. Jerry Stephenson, a former Southern Baptist minister and board member for Truth Wins Out. “I entered an ‘ex-gay’ ministry that falsely claimed I could change my sexual orientation and this led to a deep depression. Only after I accepted my true self was I able to reconcile my faith and sexual orientation. The Southern Baptist Convention needs to apologize because its policies are hurting real people.”

Southern Baptists be warned -- the gay brigade is now targeting you. However, they should be reminded that an attack on the SBC is an attack on all conservative Christians, whether Baptist or Presbyterian or orthodoxy (Catholic/Orthodox/Oriental/Assyrian) etc.

2 posted on 06/09/2011 3:05:08 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: Cronos

Hey, fudge packers!

There are a couple million Muslims in this country who believe in EXECUTING homosexuals.

Sounds like some folks have their priorities out of line. But what can you expect from people who think the square peg belongs in the round hole?


3 posted on 06/09/2011 3:14:55 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Cronos
A Southern Baptist to all LGBT-QWERTY-abnormal individuals:

Get stuffed!

4 posted on 06/09/2011 3:18:58 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: Cronos

Watch! Christian will be begging the sodomites’ forgiveness within a decade.

Personally, I don’t care if sodomites like the Bible or not. I am sticking with the Bible. Sodomites should leave other people’s children alone.


5 posted on 06/09/2011 3:19:37 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: WKB

Over Here


6 posted on 06/09/2011 3:20:40 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?)
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To: grobdriver
"Get stuffed!"

They're already doing that, Hoss.

7 posted on 06/09/2011 3:29:51 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Cronos

Yes, please apologize for.Jimmy Carter.


8 posted on 06/09/2011 3:32:48 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Cronos

Yes, please apologize for.Jimmy Carter.


9 posted on 06/09/2011 3:32:48 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Cronos

Yes, please apologize for.Jimmy Carter.


10 posted on 06/09/2011 3:32:55 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Cronos

Dear ‘activists’...

Speaking for myself only, Christians believe there is a hell. Go to it.


11 posted on 06/09/2011 3:44:05 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Cronos

The strategy here is twofold: to attack the SBC of course, but also to use any possible apology as evidence in crippling civil suits.


12 posted on 06/09/2011 3:46:27 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Cronos

Southern Baptists want gays to apologize for their immoral, perverted,abominable lifestyle.


13 posted on 06/09/2011 3:50:32 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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To: wideawake

And they use the same tactics against every Christian group...


14 posted on 06/09/2011 3:51:46 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: Cronos

It’s a topsy turvy crazy world when you cannot make fun of men having sex with each other.


15 posted on 06/09/2011 3:53:54 AM PDT by reaganator
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To: All

Freud would have a field day with these “special interest” groups dividing our country.

They humbly appear on the scene asking only to be given equal rights.

Then before you know it they’re acting like a bunch of jack-booted storm troopers, trampling on the rights of anyone who dares to have a different opinion.

There is nothing in the US Constitution that compels Americans to subsidize other people’s lack of self-esteem.


16 posted on 06/09/2011 3:54:52 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: Cronos
I suggest they take it up with the uthor and finisher of our faith.

It is written ... HAS been written for a long time, and unapologetically calls for their death in the OT.

17 posted on 06/09/2011 4:02:25 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Cronos

Sick demented demons be in those waters... infectious evil... demented souls... lost souls. Some may see the light but most will swim in the pit.

LLS


18 posted on 06/09/2011 4:34:25 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES... a Conservative subsidiary of Reagan's party)
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To: Cronos
Alan Sears
Alliance Defense Fund
The Homosexual Agenda: This book by Alan Sears, president of the Alliance Defense Fund, and Craig Osten of the ADF team, reveals the plans of those who advocate homosexual behavior to prevent and punish any public criticism of their behavior.

The following excerpt is taken from Chapter 3, “Stupid Parents, Enlightened Kids”

Every fall, millions of parents drop their children off at taxpayer-funded public schools, assuming that their children’s education will provide what they need to be successful in life: strong academics, civility, and responsibility.

Unfortunately, many of these same parents have little or no idea of what is happening to their children once they pass through the classroom door. Instead of learning the three R’s or how to be good citizens like many of us were taught, they are learning how to reject the values that many of their parents have tried hard to instill in them. Sadly, many of these parents refuse to believe that this is happening, even when you produce evidence of how the radical homosexual activists are targeting children in public schools to accept, affirm, and be recruited into homosexual behavior.

In some areas of the country where homosexual activists have had free reign for years, the indoctrination of children starts as early as kindergarten. At a Massachusetts Gay, Lesbian Straight Education Network (GLSEN) conference, there was a specific workshop on how to “incorporate gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender issues into the early elementary years.”1 On the GLSEN website, there are elementary school lesson plans featuring the themes “What is Boy/Girl?” along with books with titles such as Queering Elementary Education. 2

GLSEN is one of the most vocal pro-homosexual groups. Its efforts to indoctrinate children are relentless. On April 9, 2003, GLSEN staged its second annual “Day of Silence.” Students were encouraged to remain silent throughout the day and not respond to their teachers or administrators. Organizers of the event told children that they should “brainstorm” a list of people “who stand in your way.” Those people included teachers, counselors, and administrators who have “denied you their support in the past and who’ve expressed bias against lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgendered people. It also suggested that the list include other children, school board members, people in the community, and relatives “who have shown intolerance” of homosexuality. The organizing manual notes that “people who oppose you on your issue are known as, you guessed it, your opponents.”

So, GLSEN is telling little children that their relatives are the “enemy” if they oppose homosexual behavior. Our question (and we are afraid of the answer): Does “relatives” include Mom and Dad? Indeed, we will see that this is exactly what GLSEN means. It does mean mom and dad.

In St. Louis, Missouri, Debra Loveless requested her right to exempt her daughter from a GLSEN seminar at her daughter’s public school. Her request was granted, but she also wanted to see what was being presented at the seminar. When she arrived, an armed security guard told her that school officials wanted her to leave the school grounds.3

In Silverlake, Massachusetts, a freshman health text says: “Testing your ability to function sexually and give pleasure to another person may be less threatening in your early teens with people of your own sex . . . You may come to the conclusion that growing up means rejecting the values of your parents” [emphasis added].4This statement blatantly acknowledges the agenda of radical homosexual activists: convince early teenagers to experiment with homosexual behavior and to reject the values of their parents. The students who received this text were told they could not take it home.

In Visalia, California, not exactly an urban center like San Francisco or Los Angeles, the school district agreed to implement anti-harassment programs conducted by GLSEN and aimed at all students and staff, after being sued by the ACLU. The settlement called for mandatory training for all school staff and high school students. The student training was described as being “peer to peer,” meaning students who do not agree with homosexual behavior will be pressured by their fellow classmates to comply. In addition, the district will name “compliance coordinators” to “help parents, students and teachers with incidents of discrimination.”5Big Brother is alive and well in Visalia, California, and he is watching you and your kids.

The indoctrination that takes place in our public schools has definitely had an effect in shaping teens’ attitudes toward homosexual behavior. In 2001, Zogby International released a poll that found that 85 percent of high school seniors thought homosexual men and lesbians should be accepted by society; 68 percent said homosexual couples should be allowed to adopt children; 88 percent supported so-called hate-crimes legislation, and two-thirds thought same-sex “marriage” should be allowed. Even 80 percent of evangelical Christians supported hate-crimes legislation, which in its many proposed forms will be used to silence religious speech about homosexual behavior.6

One of parents’ key religious freedoms is the ability to raise their children to accept Jesus Christ into their lives and to train them to hold biblically based beliefs. In our public schools today, this religious freedom is under daily assault. Sad to say, large numbers of children may have already been lost to the pro-homosexual efforts that have been quietly implemented in our public schools over the past decade. But harm to future generations can still be prevented. Confused children can still be redeemed. However, it is going to take an army of parents, not just one individual here and there, who will rise up in righteous anger over what is happening to our children. The day when we can trust our public school system to affirm America’s traditional values is over. It is time to take back our schools from the radical homosexual activists for the sake of our children.

19 posted on 06/09/2011 4:54:33 AM PDT by Linda Frances
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To: Cronos

Satan has been trying to eliminate harmful things (harmful to him) from The Word Of God for a long time. Don’t pay any attention to him.


20 posted on 06/09/2011 4:55:04 AM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: Cronos

The bible clearly states that no “homosexual” (Abusers of themselves with mankind) will inherit the kingdom of God. It also clearly states that “homosexuals” can be delivered of that sin and live normal healthy lives.

If the gilberts want to disagree with that they need to take it up with the Author. I’m sure He’ll listen to their reasons.

But then again maybe not. He states pretty clearly in Leviticus 18 and Romans 1 what He thinks of their behavior.


21 posted on 06/09/2011 4:57:03 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Cronos

Homosexuals and other self-proclaimed deviants would be better off seeking repentence and begging for forgiveness.


22 posted on 06/09/2011 4:57:36 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Cronos

Somehow I doubt they have the nerve to say it to Muslims.


23 posted on 06/09/2011 5:05:53 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: ViLaLuz

Southern Baptists will not be intimidated. They need to go on to their next objective.


24 posted on 06/09/2011 5:06:39 AM PDT by Murp (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Cronos
Note to the sarcasm impaired: the following is parody -

A new coalition announced that it was starting a petition today on the GetEVEN website (www.geteven.org), calling on the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) to apologize for the harm its teachings are causing the adultery and swinging community.

Pointing to current teachings and ministries of the SBC, the coalition is attempting to shed light on harmful teachings and actions that individual congregations, pastors, and SBC leadership have embraced, targeting the adulterous community — particularly unfaithful younger married Baptists. These words and actions include everything from counseling adults to kick adulterous spouses out of their homes to the horrifying practices of its “promise keepers” program. In fact, the Southern Baptist Convention is one of the nation’s leading promoters of the so-called “promise keepers” industry, currently being profiled by CNN as part of a three-part series called “The Fifties Spouse Experiment.”

The Southern Baptist Convention will be meeting next week in Phoenix for their annual convention, and petition signatures will be delivered there.

“We call on the Southern Baptist Convention to stop misusing the Bible to promote religion-based bigotry and start recognizing the enormous pain and suffering caused by its mistreatment of adulterous people, particularly vulnerable horndogs,” said Rep. Anthony Weiner, a spokesperson for Faith in America. “History has not been kind to the Southern Baptist Convention’s record on minorities, and it is making the same awful mistake today by perpetuating abuse against adulterous people.”

“The anti-adultery teachings of the Southern Baptist church nearly led me to suicide,” said Bill Clinton, a former Southern Baptist minister and board member for Truth Wins Out. “I entered an ‘ex-adulterer’ ministry that falsely claimed I could choose my sexual practices and this led to a deep depression. Only after I accepted my true self was I able to reconcile my faith and sexual proclivities. The Southern Baptist Convention needs to apologize because its policies are hurting real people.”

This petition drive is being organized by the Association of Welcoming and Affirming Baptists, Believe in FriendsWithBenefits, InFidelity in America, GetEVEN, SwingForce and Floozies Win Out.

“Given the arc of justice and the trajectory of history, there is no doubt the SBC will offer a full-fledged apology to the adulterous community in the future,” reads a letter that petition signers will send to SBC’s leadership. “We ask the Southern Baptist Convention to prayerfully consider whether the motive behind the mistreatment and harm toward adulterous individuals, especially young cheaters, is born of political gain and agendas leading to misinterpretation of ambiguous isolated scriptural passages such as "Thou shalt not commit Adultery", rather the spirit of Christ.”

Is there a real difference spiritually or scripturally between the above whine and the LGBTBP (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, bestiality, pedophile) demands?

25 posted on 06/09/2011 5:08:16 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: RoadTest

imHo, just ignoring him has led to the tragedies of Gene Robinson and the PCUSA. We need to fight together — onward Christian soldiers..


26 posted on 06/09/2011 5:15:10 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: Murp

Southern Baptists to the outraged gays:

“Sorry you are gay. Get over yourself and go away”.

end transmission.


27 posted on 06/09/2011 5:19:37 AM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: Cronos
Attack back. Demand they apologize for the damage they cause people.

Stop rolling over, and take a stand! The reason Christianity is dieing in the west is because no one acts like they really believe it anymore.

Our ancestors in the Faith we not worried about being nice, they were worried about being Good.

28 posted on 06/09/2011 5:20:14 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

“The reason Christianity is dieing in the west is because no one acts like they really believe it anymore” — well spoken


29 posted on 06/09/2011 5:23:18 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: Pollster1
I don't know what this the horrifying practices of its “promise keepers” program means -- I thought Promise Keepers were a bunch of guys who pledged to remain true to God and their spouses. What exactly do the gays find "horrifying" about this?
30 posted on 06/09/2011 5:28:33 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: Cronos

This whole “article” reads more like a pink press release. There’s no news in it — just pro-homo propaganda.


31 posted on 06/09/2011 5:32:40 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Cronos
What exactly do the gays find "horrifying" about this?

That is the horrifying practice, just as the horrifying practice of the "ex-gay" programs is teaching people that following God's word in that area is a choice that they can make. Hint: the first line of my previous post may provide more clarity.

32 posted on 06/09/2011 5:41:23 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

As a Christian of the Southern Baptist flavor, I don’t believe in apologizing for anybody, or anything, except myself, and what I have done.

I am tempted, though, to make an exception for Jimmy Carter. He is an embarassment to Southern Baptists, the South, America, and the human race.


33 posted on 06/09/2011 6:25:01 AM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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To: Cronos

There are times to fight him (when we see a way to use our non-carnal weapons effectively) and a time to ignore him (when he’s telling us lies).


34 posted on 06/09/2011 7:14:34 AM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: Cronos

They should ~never~ appologize for the truth of scripture-it’s the gays who are intollerant, they CAN’T take the fact that some believe their lifestyle is wrong, based on the Eternal Truth!

J.S.

some liberals are just autocratic tyrants!


35 posted on 06/09/2011 7:35:24 AM PDT by JSDude1 (December 18, 2010 the Day the radical homosexual left declared WAR on the US Military.)
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To: Cronos

Not gonna happen.


36 posted on 06/09/2011 8:18:25 AM PDT by texmexis best
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To: Cronos

I smell ARCUS.


37 posted on 06/09/2011 8:28:50 AM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: chesley
I am tempted, though, to make an exception for Jimmy Carter. He is an embarassment to Southern Baptists, the South, America, and the human race.

Jimmy Carter left the Southern Baptists, and occasionally writes a resignation screed against them, he was only SB for politics.

38 posted on 06/09/2011 9:13:25 AM PDT by ansel12 (Bachmann/Rollins/Romney=destruction for Bachmann, but it sure helps Romney. WHY?)
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To: ansel12

Yeah, but he was a SB when he was President.

And then there was the vile Bill Clinton.


39 posted on 06/09/2011 9:20:51 AM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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To: RoadTest

I agree there are times to ignore, but looking at what happened to the Presbyterians with their allowing gay pastors now is a sign that these must be fought, not ignored imho


40 posted on 06/09/2011 9:39:23 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: chesley

Both were there for politics, both left SB after the elections were over, Carter in a dramatic, formal way, throwing written attacks on his way out, Clinton just quit pretending and went somewhere else.


41 posted on 06/09/2011 10:08:05 AM PDT by ansel12 (Bachmann/Rollins/Romney=destruction for Bachmann, but it sure helps Romney. WHY?)
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To: Cronos; RoadTest

You’re right. Some things to consider: the freedom of religion the Constitution recognizes means, among other things, that we are recognized as being able to believe what we wish. In so many words, this sort of “activism” infringes on the first amendment rights of the religious groups who are being maligned. In this case, it’s the SBC. Next, it may be someone else.

And every time these yahoos make, for lack of a better term, headway, it will not only encourage their new efforts, it will also likely add to their momentum politically, against both free speech that doesn’t agree with them, and every religion that doesn’t accept them as they wish. This is especially true of the left, where perception reigns, in lieu of truth.

I am not now, nor will I ever be a member of the SBC. But I honestly believe that homosexual acts are sinful, and inherently disordered, and I agree that the SBC must not back down, nor should they apologize on this.

The activists in question, by their language used in the press release, clearly are trying to make this strictly political. So it’s safe to surmise that they understand that on religious grounds they cannot make any case. But this is not a political party or lobbying group in that sense. So the SBC needs to make their position clear, from a strictly religious point of view.

Cronos is absolutely right. This is big enough that the time for some unity, at least on this particular front, is needed. For the sake of all.


42 posted on 06/09/2011 3:08:04 PM PDT by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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To: Cronos

Exactamundo.


43 posted on 06/09/2011 3:15:58 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: grobdriver; Cronos
Get stuffed!

Don't give them any ideas.

44 posted on 06/09/2011 3:43:00 PM PDT by Gamecock (It's not eat drink and be merry because tommow we die, but rather because yesterday we were dead.)
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To: helloandgoodbye
There is a reason why the homosexual movement is picking up steam and going full throttle these days.

Yeah, there IS a reason. Once gays were the victims - now they've come full circle and they've become the bullies. No matter what they get, it's NEVER enough. Bullies. Plain and simple.

46 posted on 06/09/2011 4:47:59 PM PDT by GOPJ (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act. - - Orwell)
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To: Cronos

I have known several homosexuals who became heterosexual with the aid of the Church. The belief that the temptation to sin cannot be overcome is a lie from the devil.


47 posted on 06/09/2011 5:08:41 PM PDT by gitmo (Hatred of those who think differently is the left's unifying principle.-Ralph Peters NY Post)
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To: helloandgoodbye
Daniel 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

There you have it. A man lacking the desire of women, commonly known as a homosexual.

That's one interpretations. The man could be asexual, a pedophile, a zoophile, or some other perversion I can't think of. Yours is a likly possibility. But it's important to remember the prophecy instead of the interpretation, or we can easily mistake the signs when they occur.

48 posted on 06/09/2011 5:38:15 PM PDT by gitmo (Hatred of those who think differently is the left's unifying principle.-Ralph Peters NY Post)
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To: Cronos

You’re right. The Scripture says so: (I Peter 5:8) “ Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: Whom resist stedfast in the faith - “

I was thinking of all the false fears he raises to shackle us, like false flu epidemics and global warming. Those are the things to ignore. I like the one about the pastor who was awakened in the middle of the night, looked and saw Satan standing at the foot of his bed. “Oh - it’s just you” he said and turned over and went back to sleep.

That’s the kind of thing I was thinking of.


49 posted on 06/10/2011 5:14:41 AM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: gitmo
gitmo: I have known several homosexuals who became heterosexual with the aid of the Church. The belief that the temptation to sin cannot be overcome is a lie from the devil.

you are very correct.

50 posted on 06/10/2011 5:25:43 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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