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God love you, God bless you, and Good-Bye [Catholic Caucus]
The Black Sheepdog ^ | June 17, 2011 | John Corapi

Posted on 06/17/2011 10:15:35 PM PDT by sitetest

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I didn't see this posted. If it's a duplicate, my apologies.

Dear Moderators,

Although this is from a blog, it breaks news that is important to many devout Catholics about the status of the suspended priest, John Corapi. It belongs in the Religion Forum.

Thank you.

1 posted on 06/17/2011 10:15:38 PM PDT by sitetest
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To: Salvation; narses; NYer; ArrogantBustard; Antoninus; Claud; wagglebee; livius; Pyro7480; ELS; ...

Ping.


2 posted on 06/17/2011 10:17:57 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

Discussion also here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2736372/posts?q=1&;page=1


3 posted on 06/17/2011 10:19:09 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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Dear OldNewYork,

Ah. I guess I was looking for it in the wrong place.

LOL.

Thanks.


sitetest

4 posted on 06/17/2011 10:21:11 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Quix
Dear Quix,

Although it turns out that this is a duplicate thread, this is still a Catholic Caucus thread. Please respect the caucus rules.

Thanks,


sitetest

6 posted on 06/17/2011 10:25:37 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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In my judgment, Father Corapi is getting the short end of the stick here.

Anyone else?


7 posted on 06/17/2011 10:27:02 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: sitetest
"Please respect the caucus rules."

I emphatically second that motion!

8 posted on 06/17/2011 10:30:56 PM PDT by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard / Still Think You're Free?)
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To: sitetest
Diocese of Corpus Christi, Texas
9 posted on 06/17/2011 10:31:50 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: sitetest

The other one I think might not have been where you looked because it was posted in news, whereas I think this one you’ve posted is in the religion forum (as well?) and indicated as Catholic Caucus, whereas the other one isn’t, and already has some contention brewing in it. I don’t really know the protocol, just thought the FR community’s discussion would be divided unless people were aware of both. No harm, no foul :)


10 posted on 06/17/2011 10:34:26 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: sitetest
St. John Vianney, pray for our priests.

 
Jesus. High Priest
 

We thank you, God our Father, for those who have responded to your call to priestly ministry.

Accept this prayer we offer on their behalf: Fill your priests with the sure knowledge of your love.

Open their hearts to the power and consolation of the Holy Spirit.

Lead them to new depths of union with your Son.

Increase in them profound faith in the Sacraments they celebrate as they nourish, strengthen and heal us.

Lord Jesus Christ, grant that these, your priests, may inspire us to strive for holiness by the power of their example, as men of prayer who ponder your word and follow your will.

O Mary, Mother of Christ and our mother, guard with your maternal care these chosen ones, so dear to the Heart of your Son.

Intercede for our priests, that offering the Sacrifice of your Son, they may be conformed more each day to the image of your Son, our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Amen.

Saint John Vianney, universal patron of priests, pray for us and our priests

This icon shows Jesus Christ, our eternal high priest.

The gold pelican over His heart represents self-sacrifice.

The border contains an altar and grapevines, representing the Mass, and icons of Melchizedek and St. Jean-Baptiste Vianney.

Melchizedek: king of righteousness (left icon) was priest and king of Jerusalem.  He blessed Abraham and has been considered an ideal priest-king.

St. Jean-Baptiste Vianney is the patron saint of parish priests.

12 posted on 06/17/2011 10:55:47 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Thank you sitetest. I am pretty shocked here. Father Corapi has proudly come so far, left much behind and though his masculinity may have been an offense to many, I hardly believe he had any inclinations to return to his past miseries of wine, women, wealth and song.


13 posted on 06/17/2011 10:56:01 PM PDT by RitaOK
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To: Salvation

Yes! The enemy is behind this. But more people are praying than ever before for him and the orld. I know I am.


14 posted on 06/17/2011 11:07:51 PM PDT by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: Salvation
In my judgment, Father Corapi is getting the short end of the stick here.

Fr Corapi is so outspoken, especially on issues like illegal immigration, politicians, the 2nd Amendment..perhaps some people were in no hurry to see him get back out there.

I saw him in San Antonio last year. His talks were inspiring, and the venue, the AT& T Center was packed. He was very well received.

15 posted on 06/17/2011 11:15:32 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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I don't know enough to comment one way or the other,just that to me it seems like a guilty man wouldn't make the announcement Corapi did and also that remember the bishops made a mistake with Padre Pio too.

We just have to pray and remember that our priest, our Leader, our Lord is Jesus Christ who has given us His Church which is not just some middle-manager level bishops but us all, we are all The Church.

16 posted on 06/17/2011 11:47:09 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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To: sitetest

I’ll be honest with you. I am totally in the dark about the validity of the original charges. All I can say is this:

I have read the words of some of Father Corapi’s defenders. Some of his defenders have been hateful and accusatory toward those who have refused to jump to his immediate defense, and disrespectful and nasty toward the Church Herself.

It occurred to me that if these were the fruits, I would have to avoid forming any sort of opinion on the issue apart from this: When people turn their back on the Church, it is up to the priest to show why they shouldn’t.

Driving a lamb away from the flock is wrong.

So when I see announcements like this, from the priest and not from the Church, it makes me very sad, because it seems that this is designed to make people more angry, not less. That isn’t what the priest is charged with doing.

I think the lesson here is that if his fruit is divisive and harmful, it may be good that he not serve, having nothing to do with the original accusations. At least for the time being.

P.S. Thank you for posting this. I had been wondering about a resolution, but hadn’t yet looked for news.


17 posted on 06/18/2011 12:20:17 AM PDT by mountainbunny
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I don't know what to think, and none of us know what lies behind these allegations, but I must say there is something about the whole tone of that letter which makes me wary.

Apparently, this priest was a drug user before his conversion. Addicts are never really former addicts. They are, at best, only in remission. And addicts are very manipulative people. The whole way this is stated - about how he is being thrown away like rubbish and perhaps he deserves that - is calculated to cause a reaction of compassion. But although he is very specific about his feelings, he is very vague about this situation.

The present complaint that you have heard about is, as far as I know, from the one person that I can honestly say I did more to help and support than any human being in my entire life.

Hmmmm. That does sound like a close relationship - probably with another person who had problems similar to his own.

18 posted on 06/18/2011 12:48:17 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: sitetest
In the final analysis I have only one of only two viable choices: 1. I can quietly lie down and die, or 2. I can go on in ways that I am able to go on.

what is that saying: one must die to oneself to Follow Jesus?

I have always figured Corapi was a fraud, and although his words were powerful and pointed to Jesus, his attitude and facial expressions while giving the talks suggested otherwise.

I feel bad for those who liked him, but like apparitions, you have to ask: Do we follow X or do we follow Jesus?

Several other preachers on EWTN had been accused of stuff,and they went quietly....but I worry that the enemies of that wonderful TV station will use them to attack and destroy the network...here in the Philippines we have lots of Protestant stuff that twist around what Catholics believe so to get converts, but only EWTN preaches the catholic point of view...and the masses etc. are valuable

so could I suggest that we include the network in our prayers?

19 posted on 06/18/2011 1:02:58 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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Thanks for your charitable comments, Quix.

As a Catholic Priest though, Fr.Corapi has to be obedient to higher ups as long as they don't demand him to sin or put him in a situation where he would sin. The best I can say about the matter is that he loves the Church and thinks he's doing the right thing but he is not and is confused. I hope some good friends can convince him to change his mind.

20 posted on 06/18/2011 2:24:59 AM PDT by GonzoII (Quia tu es, Deus, fortitudo mea...Quare tristis es anima mea?)
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