Skip to comments.God love you, God bless you, and Good-Bye [Catholic Caucus]
Posted on 06/17/2011 10:15:35 PM PDT by sitetest
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the whole thing smells, money is a powerful temptation.
A very fair question.
Like you, I respect Salvation greatly, and I find S's posts on this thread to have a spirit of compassion and charity.
But, I do have great reservations about the letter posted, and I see it as manipulative. I also agree with OneFaith that it is obvious that Fr C. does not want this matter to be further investigated.
“...it doesnt excuse this priests behaviour though.”
So, he’s guilty?
PS: Your posts made me sick to my stomach.
i choose not to lead my life with my head up my butt. i assume this priest is a rational human being, in full control of his mind. i further assume he wants to be a Catholic priest. now, if those assumptions are true, i ask myself, would a rational person who wishes to continue in the priesthood, give that up because he is concerned about not getting a fair hearing from the Bishop? especially, when he always has the option to quit the priesthood if his fears about the “process” turn out to be well founded? no, no, no, a thousand times no. his behaviour has guilty written all over it. how many times have we seen this act before, the well crafted non-denial denial? the new book coming out and his goofy black sheep name and website only confirms that serving Jesus Christ is not what this man is about. sorry to burst your bubble!
p.s. as for your stomach issues, may i suggest maalox or stop reading my posts?
Another alternative might be that you curb your nauseating enthusiasm in proactively propagandizing someone of guilt without the presumption of innocence.
i’m no doctor, but if it’s reached the nauseating stage, i’d go right to the pepto-bismol.
One has nothing to do with the other; your reasoning is terrible and you are still committing calumny.
where there is smoke, there is fire
What is the nature of the smoke? He hasn't been told.
his own statement says he did more to help this woman than anyone else, he doesnt deny the relationship.
How is helping another person some sort of bad or illicit relationship? Again you are committing calumny.
the truth will come out. why all the lawyers??
Does not one have the right to defend oneself from false accusation? You make no sense. You have condemned this man unjustly. You are not merely saying "I think he is guilty" but you are stating "I know he is guilty" without any evidence. Truly despicable behavior.
He cannot say Mass nor administer any Sacraments as he is suspended indefinitely. He has been put in limbo as they cannot proceed with the case because they cannot convict. So rather than dropping the case the Bishop has him put in suspended status indefinitely.
let me offer this analogy for all the ever dwindling defenders of this man. suppose someone accuses me of cheating on my wife. now i think my wife will believe this person and not give me a fair hearing. i know i didn’t do anything wrong, but my wife just will not listen to my side of the story, she will jump the gun. what can i do in this case? well, it’s clear, the only option i have is to divorce my wife. yes, because i can’t get a fair hearing, i must divorce her. oh, i also must give myself a goofy nickname, write a book and get a website!
Jesus said to his disciples:
Stop judging, that you may not be judged.
For as you judge, so will you be judged,
and the measure with which you measure will be measured out to you.
Why do you notice the splinter in your brothers eye,
but do not perceive the wooden beam in your own eye?
How can you say to your brother,
Let me remove that splinter from your eye,
while the wooden beam is in your eye?
You hypocrite, remove the wooden beam from your eye first;
then you will see clearly
to remove the splinter from your brothers eye.
one of the more abused passages of the bible. so you think Jesus is teaching that if a priest breaks his vows, we should just say “judge not, lest you be judged”?
It is not possible to remarry after divorcing a living spouse, but it is entirely possible to separate yourself from the wife who will side with the accuser as unreasonably as the Church’s policy is in this matter.
Thank you for the apt analogy.
i hope he owns the rights to the black sheep t-shirts, coffee mugs, pens, etc. etc. what a phony! i think the people defending him also thought clinton, edwards, weiner, swaggart, baker all were innocent too, after all, they all denied at first as well.
what exactly is “unreasonable” about the Church’s position in this matter? they shouldn’t investigate the allegations? is this guy and his ego above the Church?
What you don't get is that this man is personally responsible for bringing countless people back to into the fold and because of this many are giving him the benefit of the doubt (myself included).
Please, stop hating the man and ascribing various motives to him without the slightest bit of evidence. You are doing nothing but throwing salt in the wound of many Catholics to justify your hatred of this man.
go to the man’s website, it’s his name.com look around. you will see topics on all kinds of religious subjects. now, click on the subjects. what do you notice? EVERYTHING HAS A PRICE ON IT. NOTHING ON THE SITE IS FREE!! HE SELLS, BOOKS, TAPES, VIDEOS, ETC. NOW, ASK YOURSELF, WHERE DOES ALL THIS MONEY GO TO? IS HE SPREADING THE FAITH OR LINING HIS POCKET? IS HE FEEDING THE POOR OR HIS BANK ACCOUNT?
I HATE HYPOCRISY, NOT HIM AS A PERSON. I WISH HE WOULD REPENT AND FOLLOW JESUS.
I AM NOT THROWING SALT, I AM TRYING TO OPEN EYES AND SEE WHAT THIS “SHEEP MAN” IS ALL ABOUT.
FOLLOW CHRIST, NOT CORAPI.
one Lord one faith one baptism
Since Jan 1, 2011
First post on Saturday, June 18, 2011 on this very topic
Yes, something seems fishy.
Why are you accusing me of not following Christ? Can you read my heart? You are very presumptuous in your assertions toward me and others on this thread. We all need conversion everyday including yourself.
You will know a tree by its fruits. A bad tree doesn't produce bad fruit.
hmm.... sounds like something Jimmy Swaggart or Jimmy Baker could have said.
this story hasn’t played itself out yet, not by a long shot.
wait til he is deposed, then we’ll see what “fruits” he will be known by.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
what seems fishy to you?
that is, unless he pays out millions in hush money. looks like he has the loot of a lot of good people. i just hope he has enough left over to keep buying the dye required for the go-tee, that’s important that he look his best!!
Hush money for what?
Yes, and consequently I don't think I will be responding to Mr. One Lord rants on this matter.
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