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'The case raises the possibility that a high-ranking church official will end up behind bars.

Wall hopes the threat of prison time will change the way American bishops respond to abuse allegations in a way that civil lawsuits have not.'

"In the civil cases, we have taken over $3 billion, but you're not getting a lot of change in the system," he says.

1 posted on 06/19/2011 8:40:59 AM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu
"'The case raises the possibility that a high-ranking church official will end up behind bars."

There is no point arguing these claims anymore. Those who so desperately hate the Church will always fond or create excuses to do so and those who administer these threads will always always facilitate them.

2 posted on 06/19/2011 8:45:57 AM PDT by Natural Law (For God so loved the world He did not send a book.)
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“In the civil cases, we have taken over $3 billion, but you’re not getting a lot of change in the system,” he says.
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he is right. not much change since 1991.

...because the problem was largely fixed by then.
graphs of actual data, show that since 1991,
the rate of abuse is way below even public schools.

and public schools are specifically immune to suits
(confirmed by the US Supreme Court),
even though abuse there is orders of magnitude higher.

http://the-american-catholic.com/2010/04/18/the-timeline-of-abuse/
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2721377/posts
http://catholicknight.blogspot.com/2010/03/catholic-sex-abuse-scandal-and-cover-up.html
“ Consider the statistics: In accordance with a requirement of President Bush’s No Child Left Behind Act, in 2002 the Department of Education carried out a study of sexual abuse in the school system.

Hofstra University researcher Charol Shakeshaft looked into the problem, and the first thing that came to her mind when Education Week reported on the study were the daily headlines about the Catholic Church.

“[T]hink the Catholic Church has a problem?” she said. “The physical sexual abuse of students in schools is likely more than 100 times the abuse by priests.”

So, in order to better protect children, did media outlets start hounding the worse menace of the school systems, with headlines about a “Nationwide Teacher Molestation Cover-up” and by asking “Are Ed Schools Producing Pedophiles?”

No, they didn’t. That treatment was reserved for the Catholic Church, while the greater problem in the schools was ignored altogether. “

...20 years ago, this was a valid issue.
now, it is simply greedy men making money they can’t get from schools, or small individual churches.
and atheists and liberals who hate the Catholic church, because it is the one institution they fear most.
like the “flak heaviest over target” saying,
the Catholic church is the most hated and persecuted in the world.
i actually had a female English professor, tell me that her Christian church, has more in common with and was closer to ISLAM, than the Catholic Church.


3 posted on 06/19/2011 11:53:04 AM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Cardhu
Proof that it's about MONEY and not about Jusice.

For a definition of Justice, I refer you to:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08571c.htm

AS SOON AS PATRICK WALL STARTS SUING PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHERS AND THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION WITH THE SAME ZEAL AS HE'S GOING AFTER THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ... I'LL GIVE HIM THE TIME OF DAY.

UNTIL THEN ... it's not even 5 o'clock somewhere.
4 posted on 06/19/2011 12:20:38 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (I am a US Citizen, A Patriot, A TEA Partier, An Oath Keeper, A Voter, An Auburn Fan!)
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To: Cardhu
Proof that it's about MONEY and not about Jusice.

For a definition of Justice, I refer you to:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08571c.htm

AS SOON AS PATRICK WALL STARTS SUING PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHERS AND THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION WITH THE SAME ZEAL AS HE'S GOING AFTER THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ... I'LL GIVE HIM THE TIME OF DAY.

UNTIL THEN ... it's not even 5 o'clock somewhere.
5 posted on 06/19/2011 12:20:43 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (I am a US Citizen, A Patriot, A TEA Partier, An Oath Keeper, A Voter, An Auburn Fan!)
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To: Cardhu
"In the civil cases, we have taken over $3 billion, but you're not getting a lot of change in the system," he says."

Couldn't they have gone after change first and held the threat of going after money over the heads of those they wanted to change? I think this guy and those making the claims all got what they wanted which is cash and a name for themselves. It would take a lot more than this article for me to think this guys is an exception to that.

8 posted on 06/19/2011 5:53:42 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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To: Cardhu
"In the civil cases, we have taken over $3 billion, but you're not getting a lot of change in the system," he says."

Couldn't they have gone after change first and held the threat of going after money over the heads of those they wanted to change? I think this guy and those making the claims all got what they wanted which is cash and a name for themselves. It would take a lot more than this article for me to think this guys is an exception to that.

9 posted on 06/19/2011 5:53:51 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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