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Official SOLT Statement Regarding Fr John Corapi (Catholic Caucus)
SOLT News ^ | 06/20/2011 | Fr Gerrard Sheehan, SOLT

Posted on 06/20/2011 2:52:39 PM PDT by Pyro7480

As the Regional Priest Servant of the Society of Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity (SOLT), I issue the following statement on behalf of the Society.

On 16 March 2011, the Bishop of Corpus Christi, Texas, and the SOLT received a complaint against Fr. John Corapi, SOLT. As is normal procedure and due to the gravity of the accusation alleging conduct not in concert with the priestly state or his promises as a member of an society of apostolic of diocesan right, Fr. Corapi was suspended from active ministry (put on administrative leave) until such a time that the complaint could be fully investigated and due process given to Fr. Corapi. In the midst of the investigation, the SOLT received a letter from Fr. Corapi, dated June 3, 2011, indicating that, because of the physical, emotional and spiritual distress he has endured over the past few years, he could no longer continue to function as a priest or a member of the SOLT. Although the investigation was in progress, the SOLT had not arrived at any conclusion as to the credibility of the allegations under investigation.

At the onset, the Bishop of Corpus Christi advised the SOLT to not only proceed with the policies outlined in their own constitution, but also with the proper canonical procedures to determine the credibility of the allegations against Fr. Corapi. We reiterate that Fr. Corapi had not been determined guilty of any canonical or civil crimes. If the allegations had been found to be credible, the proper canonical due process would have been offered to Fr. Corapi, including his right to defense, to know his accuser and the complaint lodged, and a fair canonical trial with the right of recourse to the Holy See. On June 17, 2011, Fr. John Corapi issued a public statement indicating that he has chosen to cease functioning as a priest and a member of the SOLT.

The SOLT is deeply saddened that Fr. Corapi is suffering distress. The SOLT is further saddened by Fr. Corapi’s response to these allegations. The SOLT will do all within its power to assist Fr. Corapi if he desires to seek a dispensation from his rights and obligations as a priest and as a professed member of the SOLT. We request your prayers and the intercession of the Blessed Mother for the healing of Fr. Corapi and for any who have been negatively affected by Fr. Corapi’s decision to end his ministry as a priest and a member of the SOLT.

Fr Gerrard Sheehan, SOLT Regional Priest Servant


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1 posted on 06/20/2011 2:52:48 PM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; NYer; Salvation; american colleen; Desdemona; StAthanasiustheGreat; ..

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 06/20/2011 2:53:50 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480
Why that sounds almost......er...........sane, balanced and reasonable.

No, no, what was I thinking.........it must be a horrible, horrible conspiracy..... < /s>

3 posted on 06/20/2011 3:00:55 PM PDT by marshmallow (.)
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To: Pyro7480

I’m sick over all of this. And it keeps getting stranger & stranger.

I read earlier today that the accuser is trying to hawk Fr’s rosary to support her new online ministry, and what’s even more deceptive is that if one types .com instead of .us when seeking Corapi’s new website, it takes you to hers instead of his. Bizarre.

His audio statement from today pains me to listen to.


4 posted on 06/20/2011 3:07:14 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: Pyro7480
"If the allegations had been found to be credible, the proper canonical due process would have been offered to Fr. Corapi, including his right to defense, to know his accuser and the complaint lodged, and a fair canonical trial with the right of recourse to the Holy See."

So, Fr Corapi leaves even before there's been a finding that the charges are credible complaining that he doesn't have recourse to the very things he would have recourse to if and when the charges were classified as credible? This is making no sense at all to me now.

If they find it's a credible accusation, a whole process kicks in which sounds like solid due process but for some reason Corapi, in spite of his own admission that he had plenty of legal advice, didn't know this? Very strange to me because he directly stated he wouldn't have those rights that this piece enumerates as being a part of the process if a charge is actually brought. Right?

Someone please explain for me why Fr Corapi was feeling shafted because in light of this it seems like he just didn't want the hassle of dealing with the situation.

5 posted on 06/20/2011 3:27:04 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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To: surroundedbyblue

Interesting. Here’s the link to the information on the .com address. They simply did a re-route with it to Online Catholic Network.

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/theblacksheepdog.com


6 posted on 06/20/2011 3:31:15 PM PDT by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: Pyro7480

let me offer this analogy for all the ever dwindling defenders of this man. suppose someone accuses me of cheating on my wife. now i think my wife will believe this person and not give me a fair hearing. i know i didn’t do anything wrong, but my wife just will not listen to my side of the story, she will jump the gun. what can i do in this case? well, it’s clear, the only option i have is to divorce my wife. yes, because i can’t get a fair hearing, i must divorce her. oh, i also must give myself a goofy nickname, write a book and get a website!


7 posted on 06/20/2011 4:09:17 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: Pyro7480

Okay, I’m getting tired of this but here goes, again.

The problem is not necessarily with Father Corapi but rather with the USCCB and their progressive/liberal ALINSKY tactics in order to protect their agenda. I hear nothing about the PRO-ABORT-CATHOLICS in Congress [http://www.canon915.org/list_people.php?figure_ind=P] because they, too, are ‘progressive/liberal’ .... I see what’s happening to Father Corapi as “Rule 13” in Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals. And it takes the focus off of the USCCB’s failures to uphold the Church’s Pro-Life teaching and their refusal to own up to their own guilt and complicity in failing to promote and uphold the Teachings of the Magisterium.

They’ve had THREE months to discern what’s going on. Father Corapi has been placed in the position of having to do something because he cannot be waiting around for years for a resolution while the USCCB dawdles over his situation. Putting him “in community” while they continue to pussyfoot around is not going to solve the issue. But rather, it’s a way to shut him up! His ‘sin’ is exposing bishopric sins!

The USCCB fails to take today’s Gospel to heart. They’re too busy allowing sin to run rampant in their diocese and across this nation.

PS this is not an indictment against every member of the USCCB. There are some truly godly men doing their best against the tide of those ‘progressive/liberals’ who would silence them.

God have mercy on The Catholic Church in America.


8 posted on 06/20/2011 5:06:16 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (I am a US Citizen, A Patriot, A TEA Partier, An Oath Keeper, A Voter, An Auburn Fan!)
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To: Pyro7480
We cannot judge.

Gospel

Jesus said to his disciples:
“Stop judging, that you may not be judged.
For as you judge, so will you be judged,
and the measure with which you measure will be measured out to you.
Why do you notice the splinter in your brother’s eye,
but do not perceive the wooden beam in your own eye?
How can you say to your brother,
‘Let me remove that splinter from your eye,’
while the wooden beam is in your eye?
You hypocrite, remove the wooden beam from your eye first;
then you will see clearly
to remove the splinter from your brother’s eye.”


9 posted on 06/20/2011 5:23:28 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Pyro7480

This whole thing is really just dreadful.


10 posted on 06/20/2011 6:29:39 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: Rashputin

the process could drag on for years, during which Corapi would hang in suspense. It may boil down to a he-said, she-said matter, in which case there could be no real resolution in time for him to resume hois former role. IAC, as Father Neuhaus once pointed out, since Dallas, the bishops have been running scared and have basically told their priests—you are on your own if you get into trouble. A sad start of affairs, whether you be “liberal” or “orthodox.” What a mess. Vatican II was touted as a New Pentecost, but it has turned out to be the most useless council since the one of 1512. That one reformed nothing ; Vatican II tried to reform eveything. Like The meeting of the Estates general in 1789, the Council led to revolution and not, it seems, a fruitful one.


11 posted on 06/20/2011 6:48:28 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: RobbyS
I guess he didn't want to hang around and see how long it would drag on, I see that. I'm just a bit miffed that he didn't wait somewhat longer, I guess. I've just begun my process of reconciling with the Catholic Church but I can see where Vatican II made a real mess of things. It seems to me, and as I say I'm new to looking at things in the Catholic Church, that a lot of bishops and priests who were so inclined used Vatican II as their excuse to become a lot more Protestant and a lot less Catholic. After looking into it, there seems to be a lot that gets attributed to Vatican II that I really can't see being in the documents from that council. It's like people read into it what they wanted it to be in a lot of cases.

Thanks for the response. The fact that Corapi feels hung out to dry is probably a lot of it. From what little I know about his background it seems to me he would expect to have some loyalty from his superiors that he obviously doesn't feel is there.

12 posted on 06/20/2011 7:09:42 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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To: Rashputin; RobbyS; Salvation

how is the “black sheep” any different than jimmy swaggart or jim baker, men who became millionaires off the Gospel? who owns the rights to his book and the black sheep site, the Church or John? JC is number one in his life, it’s a shame that JC is John Corapi and not Jesus Christ.


13 posted on 06/20/2011 7:19:51 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: Rashputin

Well, he is 60 years old, and he almost died a few years ago. I must say,however, that he put himself into a very dangerous situation. Being a “star” in the Church is to make yourself a target. Furthermore, there have always been in the Church women who are drawn to priests like flies to honey, and I don’t mean in a spiritual way only.


14 posted on 06/20/2011 7:22:19 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Rashputin

It has been reported that the investigation couldn’t proceed due to Fr. Corapi holding non-disclosure agreements from the witnesses, who cannot be interviewed.

The accuser also reportedly signed a non-disclosure agreement concerning anything which went on during her employment at Santa Cruz Media. Father Corapi is now suing the accuser for breach of contract. This sounds more and more like a mess of Father Corapi’s making.


15 posted on 06/20/2011 7:52:47 PM PDT by CASchack
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To: Pyro7480

Corapi never should have been ordained a priest, if his background is as depraved as he seems to delight in describing. He was rejected by several orders before this SOLT (not exactly the Dominicans) finally took him in desperation. Certainly, a man can have a past, sins, faults, and then convert. But there is a level of promiscuity and wildness that shows inherent bad judgment and a weak character. Corapi never was worthy of the priesthood he now carelessly abandons.

I know a couple and a priest who all know Corapi from years back. He was always in this to make money. All the insiders know that! He belongs to a religious order, yet he is not in community with them. He lives in his own luxury house. He is a multi-millionaire. His books and tapes and all this is a corporation. He is not a priest so much as a businessman using the priesthood as his vehicle.

He has a very cleverly cultivated a style like an motivational speaker, which now, no doubt with the help of advertising executives and image consultants, he has transformed into the “black sheep dog”! No man with a calling to the priesthood would make this act of defiance. His arrogance is very similar to Fr. Phleger, another “star” priest with his own unique following.

I give Corapi credit for one thing, he always preached the truth. And I believe it’s because he knows there’s a “market” for it among ill-educated Catholics starved for good doctrine. I never heard any talk of his above a sixth-grade level, but apparently there are thousands of people who benefit from that.

He is an embarrassment to the Faith and the priesthood and I’m glad he made a clean break and bailed out on his own, of his own free choosing, running with his tail between his legs, but head held high, apparently like so many previous incidents in his life.


16 posted on 06/20/2011 8:19:09 PM PDT by baa39
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To: CASchack
"This sounds more and more like a mess of Father Corapi’s making."

It's clear that should the situation rise to the level of there being a credible allegation the very things he complains about being absent would be there. That the NDA is the hold up in the process means that he's using as his pretext to leave the priesthood the absence of things he could immediately have were he to waive the NDA. So, the NDA is more important to him than his vows. You're right, it's a mess of his own making at least in so far as his pretext for leaving the priesthood.

Now if there's no basis at all for the claims of the accuser, then why the rush to expect due process he should be sure he won't even need? It does look like the "all about me" aspect is way out of hand on his part, that's for sure.

Regards

17 posted on 06/20/2011 8:30:16 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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To: baa39

Thanks for the information.

Regards


18 posted on 06/20/2011 8:32:08 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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To: baa39

could not agree more, follow the money!!


19 posted on 06/20/2011 8:51:45 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: None

Despite a weak and flawed character as explaining all this. There is the one possibility of bad health and only a few years to live which could explain all this. In the end, only time will tell.


20 posted on 06/20/2011 8:59:49 PM PDT by RBIEL2
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To: baa39
I give Corapi credit for one thing, he always preached the truth. And I believe it’s because he knows there’s a “market” for it among ill-educated Catholics starved for good doctrine. I never heard any talk of his above a sixth-grade level, but apparently there are thousands of people who benefit from that.

I beg to differ. Corapi's appeal is that he talks like a man. Thousands of educated people are weary of lispy, effeminate priests sharing their "Love is Good" feelings from the pulpit. But personality cultism is never healthy, and that applies not only to the Corapis and the Phlegers and the Dales, but also to the Bojaxhius and Wojtyłas. Our faith should always be in Jesus Christ and His Church, not in the individuals who serve Him.

21 posted on 06/21/2011 1:35:03 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Just once I'd like someone to call me 'Sir' without adding 'You're making a scene.' - Homer Simpson)
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To: marshmallow

Smoke... fire.


22 posted on 06/21/2011 1:38:25 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Rashputin

He has been dealing with this nutcase for “years” and it has tired him out. This woman has been trying to extort money from him since his case against the heart doctors was taking place. That was in 2002. How much of this crap can a human being take. He is just human and has reached his breaking point. Maybe that is why he hasn’t looked that well over the past years. This could have been taking a huge physical and psychological toll all along.

He has posted an update to his former statement on his new site. He states that this woman and her husband are terrible alcoholics and that the woman actually broke into Santa Cruz media’s offices, assaulted an employee and had to be hauled off by the police. He stated that there is a police report to back it up. She is a nut that he reached out to to help and did many things for. One of those things may have been giving her his Rosary beads. She sure returned the favor.

I think that he has given up because he is tired of being left out to dry by the Bishop’s and not getting any support from those within his order and the Church in general. He also stated that he was accused of rape by a woman and received no help than either. It was later found out that the woman said that she was raped by him after he came out of her TV set. Yet another fruit cake whose accusations were taken seriously.

You hit the nail on the head when you said that he expected some loyalty from his superiors. He has done so much to help the Church and has brought many people back to it. It must absolutely kill him that it is not appreciated by them. It is appreciated by Christ though. That should give him some comfort.


23 posted on 06/21/2011 6:27:50 AM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: CASchack

When you get a job in any corporation like Santa Cruz Media, you are usually asked to sign a non disclosure agreement. It is not outside the norm to do so.

He has stated on his website that he was advised by a prominent Bishop to sue her because that would be the only way to get justice in this situation. Otherwise his case was going to be left to go on in perpetuity. It was going to be a he said she said scenario and the Church would have just left him in permanent suspension.

He sued after being advised by another Bishop to do so after the accuser had already turned him in to his superiors. As soon as they suspended him, it was already a no win situation for him. That was due to the way his case was already being handled within the Church.


24 posted on 06/21/2011 6:38:56 AM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: baa39
I happen to be a fan of his and I don't appreciate your insinuation that I am a half wit.

I don't particularly care what his motivation is for speaking, however I have always liked what he had to say. At least you are willing to admit that he speaks the truth.

He preached well, and it was definitely above a sixth grade level. He inspired many Catholics to become stronger in their faith. He has also brought many people into and back to the faith.

If you are a Catholic, why don't you try being a little bit more charitable. If you don't care for him that is your right and your choice. I also have a right to like him without being insulted for it.

How do you know what he does with all of that money? I don't know, and you cannot honestly say that you do. He may do a lot of charitable things with it that he does not advertise. He was also employing a lot of people with it as well. Now all of those people will most likely be out of a job.

If there was anything that he said and preached that you don't like I would like to hear what it was. Otherwise spare me the character assassination.

Kicking a person while they are down is not a particularly “Christian” and not a particularly charitable thing to do.

25 posted on 06/21/2011 7:02:34 AM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk
The investigation could not be completed because he holds non-disclosure agreements against witnesses and sued his accuser for breach of contract, as she had signed a non-disclosure agreement concerning anything which happened during her employ at Santa Cruz Media. She reportedly was paid for this agreement (hush money?). Santa Cruz Media is Father Corapi.

How to clear the impasse? Drop the lawsuit against the accuser and release all parties from the non-disclosure agreements. Shine light on all of the evidence and the truth will come out.

John 3:19-21 (Phi) "This is the judgment: that light has entered the world, and men have preferred darkness to light because their deeds were evil. Everybody who does wrong hates the light and keeps away from it, for fear his deeds may be exposed. But everybody who is living by the truth will come to the light to make it plain that all he has done has been done through God."

26 posted on 06/21/2011 7:12:18 AM PDT by CASchack
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To: Pyro7480

Prayers up.


27 posted on 06/21/2011 7:20:38 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012)
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To: CASchack

If he drops the suit against her, than that opens the floodgates for anybody else that feels like accusing him of just about anything they please. It will never end. Despite the fact that he has access to a lot of cash, those funds are finite. He would be in litigation with all kinds of different people forever. People just love jumping on the bandwagon. Especially when they smell money.

And as I said, a Bishop advised him to engage in the lawsuit to attain even a fragment of justice as it would be next to impossible for him to attain any kind of justice within the system of the Church.


28 posted on 06/21/2011 7:46:43 AM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: Rashputin

A very wise analysis of Vatican II. May God bless you on your journey to Truth. I will pray for you and our Church.


29 posted on 06/21/2011 8:37:50 AM PDT by Melian ("I can't spare this [wo]man; [s]he fights!" (Apologies to Abe Lincoln) Go, Sarah!)
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To: Melian

I appreciate it, I can really use some prayer support about now for a number of reasons. I’ll add you to my prayer list, too.


30 posted on 06/21/2011 8:51:08 AM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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To: baa39

“Corapi never should have been ordained a priest, if his background is as depraved as he seems to delight in describing.”

There are other people with “depraved backgrounds” whom the Lord has chosen to use as beacons of hope for sinners (St. Mary Magdalene, for instance).


31 posted on 06/21/2011 10:47:18 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: baa39

If what you say is true, then I’m going to be sick.


32 posted on 06/21/2011 11:50:55 AM PDT by diamond6 (Check out: http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/home.php and learn about the faith.)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk
The whole matter has been completely disedifying.

I'll put it this way: assuming that Mr. Corapi is entirely innocent and has been falsely accused, what examples were there for him to follow?

John of the Cross and Lorenzo Scupoli (author of The Spiritual Combat) were priests falsely accused and were subjected to slow canonical processes and years of suspicion and marginalization. To this day, questions linger about Scupoli and have been the main impediment to his canonization.

Mr. Corapi has declined to follow their example, and the faithful will naturally find his decision troubling. They have to ask themselves a question: is it spiritually safe to continue patronizing Mr. Corapi, or would avoiding him be better? At this point, they have to wish him well, but walk away.

33 posted on 06/21/2011 12:26:59 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: BlatherNaut

What about St. Paul?


34 posted on 06/21/2011 1:12:36 PM PDT by Jaded (Whatever.... really.)
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To: Lancey Howard
Smoke... fire.

Smoke ... smokebomb.

35 posted on 06/21/2011 1:17:12 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Jaded

“What about St. Paul?”

Good example. When it comes to depravity, it’s hard to top murder (St. Stephen’s).


36 posted on 06/21/2011 1:17:38 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: wideawake
The more that I think about this situation, the more upset I become.

I do still like Father Corapi, however I do feel that you do have a valid point. People keep referencing back to Padre Pio and rightly so. He was in a similar situation and received it with Grace. It took ten long years(for him it must have felt like forever) before he was cleared and could go back to his priestly duties.

Maybe this was God's test for him. Maybe it was Gods way of saying to him “Job well done my son, it's time for your ministry to end”. I mean why not go back to your order and dedicate the rest of your life to contemplation and devotion to Christ? He is in his 60’s(not that that is old) and it's time to retire.

I tell you the more that I contemplate this, the more disturbed that I become. I just don't know what to say anymore. My heart is broken.

I will not however, come away from this disliking the Church. The people that run the show may disappoint me from time to time, but I know that I'm in the right place and I will not abandon our Lord no matter what! I will not become a heretic over this whole situation. It's hard to stay the course sometimes, but I have no choice for I love the Lord too much!

37 posted on 06/21/2011 2:08:37 PM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: wideawake

“John of the Cross and Lorenzo Scupoli (author of The Spiritual Combat) were priests falsely accused and were subjected to slow canonical processes and years of suspicion and marginalization. To this day, questions linger about Scupoli and have been the main impediment to his canonization. Mr. Corapi has declined to follow their example, and the faithful will naturally find his decision troubling.”

John of the Cross and Lorenzo Scupoli weren’t faced with the same set of circumstances as Fr. Corapi. Different time, different places.

Unfortunately, until recently, clergy sex abusers were coddled and protected by the hierarchy (until external pressure was exerted via the media and the courts). Presently, the exact opposite is occurring; the hierarchy is throwing innocent priests to the wolves, but this time, the media and the justice system aren’t taking the side of the underdog. It’s not reasonable or just to expect any Catholic, priest or laity, to submit to kangaroo justice as some sort of a litmus test of virtue.

http://www.thesestonewalls.com/

The current “process” is flawed and it’s a grave injustice to submit accused priests to such a one-sided procedure. Regrettably, the truth in Fr. Corapi’s case is more likely to be revealed through a civil process rather than an ecclesiastical one (as he has apparently been advised by a bishop).

It’s hardly the behavior of a guilty person to bring the matter to court, where the details will become public record.

Trust is earned, and can be lost. The hierarchy’s involvement in the clergy abuse cover-up does not inspire confidence or trust. Nor does the current political climate within the Church.

Yes, John of the Cross, Lorenzo Scupoli, Padre Pio, et al, chose to quietly endure charges made against them. It doesn’t automatically follow that a different response is illegitimate. Padre Pio was also known for blunt speaking and even angry reactions at times. Ditto the Cure of Ars. And of course the Lord was also forceful and blunt when the situation required it. The necessities of each situation dictated the response.

Passivity in the face of injustice isn’t always a virtue - only when it’s the Father’s will. None of us (except perhaps a spiritual director) can presume to know the Father’s will for another person, and we have no way of knowing whether the choice Fr. Corapi has made is in fact the Lord’s will for him (and perhaps ultimately a more difficult choice for him than any other he might have made).


38 posted on 06/21/2011 3:17:51 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

Mary Magdalene was not ordained in the Sacrament of Holy Orders. Mary Magdalene was not charged with offering the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, in persona Christi.

My point was NOT that Corapi was a sinner before he entered the priesthood, obviously that applies to almost everyone. My point was that there are special, no that’s not specific enough, UNIQUE qualifications one must have to be ordained. That’s why there is a careful process of qualification, a process which Corapi apparently failed many times before getting to “S” on his list of prospective religious orders.


39 posted on 06/21/2011 9:08:02 PM PDT by baa39
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

You just go right ahead believing that if it makes you feel better. After all if it’s on his website it must be true.

The importance of Corapi to “the Church” and “to the hierarchy” and “the bishops” and “the USCCB” and all these other lofty entities I have now read 100 times on this and other blogs is miniscule. This is a blip in their day. Get it: tiny. This is so nothing. I bet half the USCCB have NEVER HEARD HIS NAME!!! He is not what you think he is.

Corapi is an entertainer using his collar to push forward his wealth-building and “cult” status. This is a very low-level matter in episcopal circles. Of course it’s a crisis for SOLT. But Corapi has always been almost a laughingstock to those on the inside, he’s like a side puppet show, not one of the big boys at all.

The people who are making a huge fuss, and clearly Corapi wants to goad them on with agitation with his constant announcements, YouTubes, etc, are just ordinary people like you who watched him on TV. These were his followers, the rest of the Church barely noticed him. Naturally you would be devastated now because you believed in him. He’s a good con man. But Bishops don’t have time for nonsense like this, much less higher levels.


40 posted on 06/21/2011 9:28:01 PM PDT by baa39
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

Amen sister...well said.


41 posted on 06/22/2011 7:38:18 AM PDT by diamond6 (Check out: http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/home.php and learn about the faith.)
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To: baa39

Who are you and what are your qualifications for knowing what the USCCB and the SOLT thinks about these things? How do you get your “inside” knowledge?


42 posted on 06/22/2011 10:18:59 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: baa39

I am still trying to soak everything in get a grasp on the situation. I will tell you right now that I will not continue to follow him if he does indeed leave the priesthood. I cannot. I still love what he has preached, and I will support him. But he has taken an oath with the Church to serve as a priest for life. If he breaks that oath he will give me no choice but to avoid him.

There are a lot of us on here who happen to like him and we are all in a lot of pain over this. You can try to cut us some slack and not rub salt in our wounds.

The more that this plays out, the more disappointed I get.

I don’t consider him a con man in that he has never said or done anything to pull me in the wrong direction in regards to my faith. I went to one conference and bought the Catechism of the Catholic Church. I watched him on EWTN the rest of the time. So to be honest, you didn’t really have to invest any money to hear him preach if you didn’t want to. I don’t feel fleeced if that is what you are insinuating.

If you want, read post 37 and you will see where my mind is headed on this.

I don’t want quarrel with anyone anymore about this. That is the last thing us Catholics need to do.

I will say this, if he is guilty, my heart will be completely broken. I will still care for him because he has helped to inspire me in my faith and bring me closer to the Blessed Mother as well. He is human, and humans always screw up. That’s what we do.


43 posted on 06/22/2011 10:45:50 AM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk
I will say this, if he is guilty, my heart will be completely broken.

Try not to get too down about this. The evil one will attack anyone who brings souls to Christ. If Fr. Corapi has fallen, it is a warning to us all to be on guard and to take what precautions have been prescribed by the Church for the temptations we all will face. With so many prayers, I hope that he recants his statements in humility and honors the request of his superior at SOLT.

44 posted on 06/22/2011 3:12:44 PM PDT by CASchack
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To: CASchack

Thank you for your advice.

I think that what he really needs to do right now is reflect on his situation and not be so impulsive. I really don’t think that he is thinking clearly right now. I think he is very angry and when your driven by anger you don’t make the right decisions.

If he is being honest and he is indeed innocent of these allegations, than he just has to give it time and the truth will indeed come out and he will be vindicated. He has to look at it this way, if Christ wants you to preach than he will make it so. If he doesn’t, he will let you know. Maybe Christ just wants him to be quiet for awhile and reflective. It may seem unjust to him, but it might just be something he has to endure.

Either way, the truth will eventually come out. It always does.


45 posted on 06/22/2011 3:52:11 PM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

I am shaken and startled to hear you say your heart is broken. I would never wish that on you! Despite what I know about Corapi, I see he did have an effective and powerful way of communicating Church teachings, and that thousands of people were positively touched by that, and as you say, it could have been by watching him on TV. There is a lady in our parish who seemed to feel some connection with him and like you is very upset.

He has a gift, they call it “charisma”. Obama has the same thing. Appearances can be deceiving. I guess by watching someone on TV it is almost impossible to discern this charisma from the inner man with no other background info.

I don’t blame anyone who liked Corapi’s presentations. But some of it does ridiculously border on hero worship or cultism. For so many to be so vitriolic about the bishop, for example, or the USCCB, is blatantly ignorant of what happened. The USCCB has nothing to do with Corapi nor have they ever nor will they ever. Corapi’s SOLT superior is the only one that has authority over him and the “process.”

Your response is a genuine and normal reaction, I don’t mean you are going overboard. But many people are, as if the guy is almost a god or something.

Corapi knows he has this adoring following, and that part of their affection for him is that he was a priest, upstanding, preaching the truth and giving good advice. He also must know that he is now letting all those people down and in the most defiant way possible for an ordained man of God. I think that shows his true character. But time will tell.


46 posted on 06/22/2011 5:17:01 PM PDT by baa39 (If you can't take the heat, get out of FR.)
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To: nanetteclaret

Sorry, that information is released on a need-to-know basis.

I believe on FR we are all entitled to express reasonable and respectful opinions as long as we articulate the rationale, without having to reveal personal information.

You are free of course to doubt my credibility. However, it seems the internet right now is split about 50/50, half having views similar to mine, the other half being infatuated with Corapi to the point of refusing to even face various possibilities.


47 posted on 06/22/2011 5:26:41 PM PDT by baa39 (If you can't take the heat, get out of FR.)
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To: baa39

It’s never a good thing to hold anybody to such a ridiculous esteem that you blind yourself to the fact that they could possibly mess up and mess up badly. You really do set yourself up for a huge disappointment. Maybe I have done this to myself, I don’t know.

To be honest, I did see a change in him over the past few years. I don’t know what is going on in his life so I shouldn’t make assumptions. But I feel like maybe he got to be too huge a figure. That is never good for anyone. I can see why you and other people could be turned off, but he did have some really good things to say and he was on the money with a lot of things. He delivered a very good message and could be very sweet and charismatic at times.

Maybe his status was starting to effect his character and his soul in bad ways. Maybe this is God’s way of saying to him “stop and regroup”. Yes God did give him a gift to preach, and he still may be compelled to do so. But sometimes God says “no” and you have to accept that. God allows things to happen for a reason. Even things that may seem unjust and unfair sometimes. We all have to do our best to accept that as hard as it is to do so.

I don’t like what I am hearing from him now. I think he has lost his way somewhat. Despite what you may feel about him, I think that he is a decent man with a wonderful gift. Please pray for him that he may find his way. And pray for people like me who have been hurt by this. I say this with tears in my eyes.


48 posted on 06/22/2011 7:29:37 PM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: baa39

You said, “I bet half the USCCB have NEVER HEARD HIS NAME!!!” and “But Corapi has always been almost a laughingstock to those on the inside, he’s like a side puppet show, not one of the big boys at all.” Statements like these are not “reasonable and respectful.” They are the statements of someone who is reading other people’s minds - unless you are one of the “insiders” yourself and have heard people voicing these sentiments. Evidently you’re just one of those who is projecting your own opinions and don’t really have a clue what is going on.


49 posted on 06/23/2011 7:54:08 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: marshmallow

Money. It’s all about certain assorted people trying to extract money from Corapi in any way they can. In case you don’t remember, he won a legal judgment worth several million $$$$ just a few years ago.

The bonus is they could be rid of his mouth. He talks and some people don’t like it.

Wake up.


50 posted on 06/25/2011 9:35:20 AM PDT by michigancatholic
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