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Rick Warren - I told you so
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Posted on 06/21/2011 5:05:21 PM PDT by BereanBrain

I missed this (over two years ago). I left a church over Rick Warren's "Willow Creek Church Association" I found out our church had secretly joined, and was sending money to the Pope of Political Correctness (Rick Warren). This was just after Rick gave an open mike at his church to AL GORE. And didn't press him on his support for partial birth abortion.

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A plethora of terror-related individuals surrounds the profile of Pastor Rick Warren on the “Speakers Corner” of the official website of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA). He is fully aware of how he is being portrayed on the site (as this author has had correspondence with his office regarding the matter) but refuses to demand its deletion and offers no apology for its existence. Pastor Warren has become a shill for Islamic terror. “As-salamu Alaykum. I come to you today deeply humbled and honored by this invitation. I truly mean that. I applaud your courage for inviting an Evangelical pastor. Thank you.” This was the opening statement of Rick Warren, the leading pastor of the influential Southern California Saddleback Church, as he stood in front of the attendees of ISNA’s 46th Annual Convention in July 2009.


TOPICS: Islam; Mainline Protestant; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: islam; religion; rickwarren

1 posted on 06/21/2011 5:05:24 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain
I left a church over Rick Warren's "Willow Creek Church Association" I found out our church had secretly joined, and was sending money to the Pope of Political Correctness (Rick Warren).

The Willow Creek Association is not Rick Warren's group. It's based out of Willow Creek Community Church in suburban Chicago, where Bill Hybels is the senior pastor. Warren is in California.

2 posted on 06/21/2011 5:10:38 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: BereanBrain

WOW! Just WOW! It is Christians who voted in Pro-Abortion, Pro-Gay agenda Barack Obama, now you see why!

Willow Creek Church, Pro Illegal Pro Open Borders Church.

They have No Shame.


3 posted on 06/21/2011 5:11:44 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: BereanBrain

WOW! Just WOW! It is Christians who voted in Pro-Abortion, Pro-Gay agenda Barack Obama, now you see why!

Willow Creek Church, Pro Illegal Pro Open Borders Church.

They have No Shame.


4 posted on 06/21/2011 5:11:51 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: BereanBrain
I remember some big name minister having some kind of health seminar and getting a bunch of heretical, mysticism/magic, cult types to speak. Anybody know what I am talking about, was it Rick?

I am very disappointed with him. I remember listening to him speak right after 9-11. Didn't know much about him and new to being a conservative. At the time, he seemed like a pretty bright guy.

5 posted on 06/21/2011 5:14:26 PM PDT by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: Quix

Emergent church ping.


6 posted on 06/21/2011 5:16:26 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: chicagolady

This thread has become very confused. Saddleback and Willowcreek are two VERY different churches.

Well, rather one is a church one is a country club with high standards.


7 posted on 06/21/2011 5:19:11 PM PDT by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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To: xjcsa

It’s the same “seeker sensitive” movement. And our church was paying for Rick’s “leadership summits” to be beamed in by satellite to our church (in conjunction with WCCA).


8 posted on 06/21/2011 5:19:23 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: SpringtoLiberty

And which is which?


9 posted on 06/21/2011 5:21:58 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: chicagolady
WOW! Just WOW! It is Christians who voted in Pro-Abortion, Pro-Gay agenda Barack Obama, now you see why!

Practicing Christians voted overwhelmingly for McCain/Palin, I would say that the majority of all people that would even claim to be Christian, voted against Obama.

11 posted on 06/21/2011 5:27:53 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: BereanBrain
It’s the same “seeker sensitive” movement. And our church was paying for Rick’s “leadership summits” to be beamed in by satellite to our church (in conjunction with WCCA).

Again, the leadership summit is a Willow Creek event; Rick Warren is separate. I have my quarrels with both Willow Creek and Rick Warren, but they are not the same thing.

12 posted on 06/21/2011 5:29:05 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: ansel12

You are absolutely WRONG. I am an evangelical Christian and many voted for OBAMA. So why should you be surprized?

Want to hide something from a Christian? PUT IT IN THEIR BIBLE because they never read it!

Sorry you cannot take the truth.

It’s called WHITE GUILT!!


13 posted on 06/21/2011 5:32:46 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: ansel12

You are absolutely WRONG. I am an evangelical Christian and many voted for OBAMA. So why should you be surprized?

Want to hide something from a Christian? PUT IT IN THEIR BIBLE because they never read it!

Sorry you cannot take the truth.

It’s called WHITE GUILT!!


14 posted on 06/21/2011 5:32:54 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: ansel12

You are absolutely WRONG. I am an evangelical Christian and many voted for OBAMA. So why should you be surprized?

Want to hide something from a Christian? PUT IT IN THEIR BIBLE because they never read it!

Sorry you cannot take the truth.

It’s called WHITE GUILT!!


15 posted on 06/21/2011 5:33:04 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: chicagolady
White Evangelical guilt?


16 posted on 06/21/2011 5:42:53 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: ansel12

Very interesting chart. Thanks for the post.


17 posted on 06/21/2011 5:56:52 PM PDT by gitmo (Hatred of those who think differently is the left's unifying principle.-Ralph Peters NY Post)
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To: xjcsa
The Willow Creek Association is not Rick Warren's group. It's based out of Willow Creek Community Church in suburban Chicago, where Bill Hybels is the senior pastor. Warren is in California.

Saddlecreek, Willowback. Hard to keep them all straight.

18 posted on 06/21/2011 6:13:16 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: ps2

RUN don’t walk from anything Rick Warren. He passes the smell test of a false teacher.

2007

“Hillary gets standing ovation at Rick Warren’s summit”
‘I saw a softer side of her that I hadn’t seen before’

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=44818

2008

“Just when I thought I could say “Amen” (Rick Warren invokes the name of Islamic Jesus...)”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2171061/posts

2009

“TOP PROTESTANT EVANGELIST TO PROMOTE NEW RELIGION; “CHRISLAM” AT RADICAL MUSLIM CONVENTION”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2279103/posts

Jan. 2011

“Rick Warren hosts ‘cult’ celebrity docs”
Features promoters of Eastern mysticism, universalism

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=251133


19 posted on 06/21/2011 6:23:56 PM PDT by 444Flyer ("...Rather the scorned- the rejected -the men hemmed in with the spears..." from 'A Consecration')
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To: 444Flyer

A plethora of terror-related individuals surrounds the profile of Pastor Rick Warren on the “Speakers Corner” of the official website of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA). ... Pastor Warren has become a shill for Islamic terror. “As-salamu Alaykum.
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some good ministers, simply fall for for the taquiyya from the MSM, and do “interfaith events”, etc.
some “ministers”, simply have sold their souls,
to aid the religion of Satan himself.

(and any Christian can see from the Sira. The bright Angel in the cave, terrorized Mo, and choked him.
ANY Christian would recognized this as Satan still being able to appear as a spirit of light”.
...even little things, like in Psalms, the Devil hating the music. And in Islam... music is haram.
the most holy sacrament of marriage, that even God will not break? in Islam, reduced to a mockery, by women being property... a field to tilth at will...
it was designed by Satan himself.


20 posted on 06/21/2011 6:35:32 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: ansel12
Though it's important to note that only about half of Christians are registered to vote....and of those, onlly about half bother to vote. If believers registered and voted, we could change the world.
21 posted on 06/21/2011 6:47:14 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: xjcsa

Since 1995, Willow Creek Association has held an annual Leadership Summit. Speakers at the Leadership Summit have included President Bill Clinton,[5] Karen Hughes, who served as Special Advisor to former President George W. Bush, Lady Vols’ women’s college Basketball coach Pat Summitt, Dallas, Texas pastor Bishop T.D. Jakes, business consultant and author Jim Collins, University of Southern California president Steven Sample, Yahoo!’s Tim Sanders, business author and leadership consultant Marcus Buckingham, and Rick Warren, pastor and author of The Purpose Driven Life.

Uhh...pretty much a difference without distinction.....They are all cut from the same cloth, and run in the same circles.


22 posted on 06/21/2011 6:58:48 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: Elendur
We live in spiritually compromising and deceiving times. We have to pray daily that the Lord would keep us from that deception. To guard our doctrine as Paul admonished Timothy to do.
23 posted on 06/21/2011 7:05:34 PM PDT by 444Flyer ("...Rather the scorned- the rejected -the men hemmed in with the spears..." from 'A Consecration')
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To: BereanBrain
Uhh...pretty much a difference without distinction.....They are all cut from the same cloth, and run in the same circles.

Yep, Warren spoke at the Leadership Summit. That's not the same thing as running it. But if you don't think the truth has value in its own right, keep saying that Warren runs the Summit and that he's somehow in charge of the Willow Creek Association.

24 posted on 06/21/2011 7:17:51 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: ansel12

OK< If you want to trade articles I am GAME......

Why Young Evangelicals Voted for Obama

http://www.newsweek.com/2009/01/16/faith-beyond-his-father-s.html

So much has been written about the Joshua Generation, the young white evangelical Christians who pundits predicted would usher Obama into office in overwhelming numbers. Following such high-profile do-gooders as Rick Warren and Bono, moved to action by global poverty and environmental decay, these Christians were supposed to turn away from their parents’ obsession with abortion and gay marriage and pull the lever for Obama..................


25 posted on 06/21/2011 7:40:53 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: ansel12

Exclusive Video: Franklin Graham: Millions of Evangelicals Who Voted for Obama Won’t “Be at the Table Next Time”

http://blogs.cbn.com/thebrodyfile/archive/2010/05/05/exclusive-video-franklin-graham-millions-of-evangelicals-who-voted-for.aspx

In an exclusive interview with The Brody File, Franklin Graham says he thinks that millions of Evangelical Christians who voted for Barack Obama in 2008 won’t, “be at the table next time.” Dr. Graham says they have seen things from this administration that, “concern them, worry them.” Franklin Graham then made an impassioned plea for churchgoers to get out and vote this year and in two years because if they don’t then, “we’re going to be in trouble.”

I interviewed both Franklin Graham and Dr. James Dobson together in Washington. They were in town taking part in a National Day of Prayer pre-event hosted at the Family Research Council. The Brody File camera was allowed exclusive access.


26 posted on 06/21/2011 7:43:58 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: chicagolady

Are you drunk?

I didn’t post an article, I posted the 2008 voting results.

Look at how Evangelicals, and Christians actually voted, try to accept the truth.

You tried to make up fake numbers for the 2008 election, you were wrong.


27 posted on 06/21/2011 7:45:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: chicagolady

From the article you posted:

“Young Christians liked Obama much better than Kerry: a third of white evangelicals ages 18 to 29 voted Democratic this time, compared with 16 percent in 2004. Still, a third is hardly a majority. And their grandparents liked Obama less: a quarter voted for him, compared with a third for Kerry. On the whole, Christians shifted negligibly to the left: 24 percent of them voted Democratic, compared to 21 percent in 2004.”

I know one ‘evangelical’ who voted for Obama. Everyone else tried hard to defeat him.


28 posted on 06/21/2011 7:46:55 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: chicagolady
Does the actual 2008 vote, interest you at all?


29 posted on 06/21/2011 7:47:05 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: chicagolady

Well said!

A few times ;-)


30 posted on 06/21/2011 7:50:46 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: ansel12

That’s a fascinating graphic. Thanks!


32 posted on 06/21/2011 8:03:31 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: chicagolady

This is what you questioned, yet I was correct.

“Practicing Christians voted overwhelmingly for McCain/Palin, I would say that the majority of all people that would even claim to be Christian, voted against Obama.”

By the way, for a holier than thou type Christian, you sure come off as hostile and angry, and WAY over the top aggresive.


33 posted on 06/21/2011 8:05:09 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: chicagolady
"I am an evangelical Christian and many voted for OBAMA."

The majority of the folks in my area are evangelical Christians as well and you're absolutely right. In spite of being in "conservative" Western NC I would say that not just many, but the majority, of the evangelical folks here voted for Obama. Mostly due to their having adopted the lying propaganda that had been spread about Dub for eight years, but whatever their reasons they were more than happy to vote for Obama. I can't understand how they could have a clear conscience and vote for someone who believes that mass murder is fine if you just call it abortion, but that's the way it is.

Good luck getting any of them to admit it now or getting others to understand that evangelical Christians are an easily swayed voting block that votes against Christian values just about as often as they vote for them (when they aren't explaining why the don't bother to vote). Most of the evangelical folks I've heard from here on FR are persuaded that all evangelicals vote for conservatives and Christian values no matter what. I wish that were the case.

Regards

34 posted on 06/21/2011 11:51:01 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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To: chicagolady

Depends on which pew you’re sitting in lol!

I think Willowbrook is a fantastic church that is providing much needed leadership in our country.


35 posted on 06/22/2011 8:21:46 AM PDT by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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To: BereanBrain; Elendur
More about the false teacher.

Here is practically a love letter written about Rick Warren by Eboo Patel, one of Obama’s ‘religious advisors’. Mr. Patel is a Muslim who is closely connected with the Imam who wants a mosque built at ground zero.

See:

“Obama adviser: U.S. ‘ideal place for renewal of Islam’”

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=181865

Here Mr. Patel praises Rick Warren for his activism towards a world where an interfaith alliance works to promote the global agenda of man centered do good-isms under a religious guise. (Reading about Warren's ‘3 legged stool’ philosophy and the fact that he is a member of the CFR doesn't have to leave you wondering what role he is playing in helping with the NWO so desired by the globalists.)

Patel writes:

“...Last week at the Clinton Global Initiative, Warren was asked how “the church” could help to solve poverty. His response was to rattle off the numbers of Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims and Christians in the world - in that order - and make a plea that the public and private sectors take seriously “the faith sector as the third leg of the stool of successful development”.
Warren consistently used the language of a religious pluralist. He spoke of “mosques, temples and churches” as central to the life of villages in the developing world. He underscored the fact that there are huge numbers of people of faith in the world, and huge numbers of houses of worship in places where clinics, banks and schools don't exist. Those people of faith can be trained to be the arms and legs of any development plan, and those houses of worship can double as clinics, banks and schools...”

“Rick Warren, Interfaith Activist”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/on-faith

Again, Mr. Patel is a hard line Muslim associated with Feisal Rauf. Yet he writes glowingly about Rick Warren.

Luke 6:26~
“Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.”

It all makes you feel so warm inside until you wake up to the fact that this is a demonic man-centered movement that has nothing to do with the great commission ordered by our Lord and everything to do with bringing in a global (one world) system of religion.

36 posted on 06/24/2011 1:28:43 PM PDT by 444Flyer ("...Rather the scorned- the rejected -the men hemmed in with the spears..." from 'A Consecration')
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To: BereanBrain; Elendur

Wrong link in my post above. This one should work.

“Rick Warren, Interfaith Activist”

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/eboo_patel/2008/09/rick_warren_interfaith_activis.html


37 posted on 06/24/2011 1:53:58 PM PDT by 444Flyer ("...Rather the scorned- the rejected -the men hemmed in with the spears..." from 'A Consecration')
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