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To: CynicalBear
Jesus called Peter Cephas which is Aramaic the language that Jesus spoke and means rock.

Thank you.

In Greek the word is Petros and in English it is Peter. Wow! Wasn’t that neat?

Yes, it was. Cephas = rock = Peter.

It still doesn’t mean that the church is built upon Peter as the foundation.

I can understand why some take that interpretation of the Scripture:

    "And I also say to you that you are Peter [rock - as CynicalBear said above], and on this rock I will build My church"

I shouldn’t have said “the Father”

OK. Thanks.

Neither is the Pope the head of the church.

No, Christ is the head of the Church.

The church is subject to only one head and that is Christ.


40 posted on 06/29/2011 12:50:54 PM PDT by Titanites
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To: Titanites
Let’s look at what the RCC says about who is head of the church and whether or not salvation depends on being subject to the Pope or just to Jesus.

Catholicism teaches that submission to the Pope is necessary for salvation, directly contradicting scripture.

One needs only to look at this from Pope Boniface VIII in an ex cathedra statement in his bull Unam Sanctam (A.D. 1302) and was later reaffirmed by subsequent popes and councils such as Vatican I.

Furthermore we declare, state, define, and pronounce that it is altogether necessary to salvation for every human creature to be subject to the Roman pontiff.”[ Cited in Henry Bettenson, ed., Documents of the Christian Church (London: Oxford Univ., 1963), 116. Vatican I, after affirming that the bishops of Rome are the rightful rulers over the church to whom all Christians must submit in matters of faith and morals and discipline states, 'This is the teaching of Catholic truth, from which no one can deviate without loss of faith and salvation'; cited by Philip Schaff, The Creeds of Christendom (New York: Harper, 1877),11:263.]

Catholicism “adds to” scripture and we know what that means. I would ask you not to twist my words and make it look like I agree that Peter is the Rock upon which the church is built because I don’t agree with that.

44 posted on 06/29/2011 1:10:57 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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