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Evangelism Approach By Way of The Bible
BIble | 2011 | bibletruth

Posted on 07/02/2011 10:05:14 PM PDT by bibletruth

Evangelism Approach By Way of The Bible. The Bible can teach us how to let GOD the Holy Spirit convict people who are lost or have been deceived by false doctrines. Learn how to use the Bible and Bible Scriptures and the convicting ministry of the Holy Spirit as the evangelist preaches the grace message.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology
KEYWORDS: bible; correctdoctrine; evangelism; paulsgospel
Evangelism Approach By Way of The Bible. The Bible can teach us how to perform evangelism, no scholar approach is needed, no 10-points to Jesus are needed, etc, just the Bible and Bible Scripture and the convicting ministry of the Holy Spirit as the evangelist preaches the grace message.


First off we let GOD the Holy Spirit convict people who are lost or have been deceived by false doctrines:

John 16:8-12 And when he is cone, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: of sin, because they believe not me; of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. I have many things to say unto you, but you cannot bear them now.

Then the GOSPEL:

I Corinthians 15:3-4 For I delivered unto you first of all all that which I received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures ; and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the Scriptures

And as instructed by the glorified Christ to the Apostle Paul for today, we are to preach the reconciliation of God to men:

II Corinthians 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us ministry of reconciliation

And Christ instructs us through the Apostle Paul in Romans 2:16

Romans 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ ACCORDING TO MY Gospel.

Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stabish you ACCORDING TO MY Gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, ACCORDING TO THE REVELATION of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began.

As an evangelist, we preach and communicate today that we are justified in God's sight by his grace. We are saved by simple faith and belief in Jesus Christ:

Romans 3:24: Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Romans 3:25: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
Romans 3:26: To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Ephesians 2:8: For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
We are saved by faith in His shed blood on the cross. There is not difference today whether the unsaved individual is either Gentile or Jew in origin, for with God there is no difference today:
Romans 3:22: Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Ephesians 1:7: In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
Ephesians 2:5: Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
It is imperative that we communicate to the unsaved and make them aware of their sin (John 16:8-12) and Romans 3:23:
Romans 3:23: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Isaiah 64:6: But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags
It is imperative that we communicate to the unsaved that we are not saved by the deeds of good works or the law:
Romans 3:20: Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Romans 3:21: But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;


Absolute Assurance of Salvation - Nothing Can Separate Us:

Finally, salvation is an absolute assurance, never can we lose our salvation once we truly believe the Christ Jesus died for our sins, rose from the dead, and is seated at the right hand of the Father.Today, we do not "endure" to the end. Quite opposite to some of the leading denominational teachings who tell us that we must "endure"...

Nothing can separate us from Christ Jesus:

Romans 8:38: For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Romans 8:39: Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
We have a promise that is as good as Abraham's salvation (promise):
Galatians 3:14: That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
Galatians 3:29: And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise
We are permanently sealed for salvation, which guarantees our acceptance into Heaven:
Ephesians 1:13: In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise
Please do accept the final salutation from Paul in Romans - all grace be with you.
Romans 16:24: The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

1 posted on 07/02/2011 10:05:20 PM PDT by bibletruth
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To: bibletruth

Good post. The gospel is the power of God for salvation to anyone who believes. Take it viral :)


2 posted on 07/02/2011 10:24:10 PM PDT by Guyin4Os (A messianic ger-tsedek)
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To: bibletruth

bttt


3 posted on 07/02/2011 10:26:32 PM PDT by Buddygirl
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To: Guyin4Os
Amen.
Romans 1:16: For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
I Peter 1:5: Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
Romans 4:16: Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace
Romans 5:1: Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
Romans 5:2: By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

4 posted on 07/02/2011 10:32:04 PM PDT by bibletruth
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To: bibletruth

Good synopsis of the amazing grace of the Gospel. How prideful some people can be when they refuse to take God at his word and spend their entire lives fearful and worried that they might not be judged “worthy”. The good news is that NONE of us is or ever will be worthy of eternal life with the Lord so that is why we are not judged according to our sins nor deserve it based on our own merit but on the righteousness of God in Christ. Praise his wonderful name!


5 posted on 07/02/2011 11:11:33 PM PDT by boatbums ( God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums
Amen. Thanks.

And since we find in that Romans 5:2: By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. It follow Biblically speaking that this access by faith which we have represents access by faith together with Christ in Heaven during our believer-saint lives here on this earth. That alone is proof positive that if we have access by faith together with Christ in Heaven, then when our lives expire here on earth, our immediate and final destination is Heaven, not Hell (nor the so called purgatory). For Christ Jesus ONLY spoke about TWO destinations: Heaven and Hell.

6 posted on 07/02/2011 11:24:44 PM PDT by bibletruth
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To: bibletruth
Evangelism Approach By Way of The Bible.

Umm, which Bible? This article makes repeated mention of "the" Bible - as though there were only ONE. In actual fact, I've come across lots of different versions and translations. In fact, some versions lack certain whole books (the so-called "Apocrypha") which are included in other versions. So, before one goes evangelizing, and quoting numerous different passages from an unidentified version of the Bible, wouldn't it be better to first establish which version of the Bible you are using, and why that particular version?

Regards,

7 posted on 07/03/2011 2:17:47 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: bibletruth
The Bible can teach us how to let GOD the Holy Spirit convict people who are lost or have been deceived by false doctrines.

Oh, and one other thing: What do you mean by "convict people?"

You use the verb "to convict" more than once in the article, so I assume that it isn't a mere typographical or spelling error.

Is there perhaps some special theological meaning in this context of the verb "to convict?"

I don't want to put words in your mouth, but don't you mean "to convince people?"

Regards,

8 posted on 07/03/2011 2:20:48 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: alexander_busek

Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.

Evangelism is not simply a soulish exercise. It is a spiritual communication gift given only to some believers by God the Holy Spirit, to communicate the Word to unbelievers.

A similar gift, pastor-teacher, is also a spiritual communication gift given only to some believers by God the Holy Spirit, to communicate the Word to believers.

Neither of these spiritual gifts are acquirable by anything a believer does to procure that power. They are gifts by His grace to some believers.

When exercising those gifts, which happens while in fellowship with God through faith in Christ, God guides what to communicate and one of the best tools He has made available to the believer today is the Bible translated into many languages.

Which version, other than avoiding obvious contradictory un-Scriptural versions, is somewhat irrelevant. Even the King James has some passages which had been translated from the Hebrew to the Greek in Old Testament times, and mistranslated in some New Testament passages, thereby differing from one another, yet both are in His Word, and both are usable by God the Holy Spirit in His Plan.

While it is academically laudable to seek a well translated version of the Bible, the real focus should be on studying His Word in fellowship with Him, allowing God to perform His work in us.


9 posted on 07/03/2011 2:31:41 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr
It is a spiritual communication gift given only to some believers by God the Holy Spirit, to communicate the Word to unbelievers.

Sort of.

The relation of Scripture to the living magisterium, and of the living magisterium to Scripture:

This relation is the same as that between the Gospel and the Apostolic preaching. Christ made use of the Bible, He appealed to it as to an irrefragable authority, He explained and interpreted it and furnished the key to it, with it he shed light on His own doctrine and mission.

The Apostles did in like manner when they spoke to the Jews. Both sides had access to the Scriptures in a text admitted by all, both recognized in them a Divine authority, as in the very word of God. This was also the way of the faithful in their studies and discussions; but with pagans and unbelievers it was necessary to begin with presenting the Bible and guaranteeing its authority — the Christian doctrine concerning the Bible had to be explained to the faithful themselves, and the guarantee of this doctrine demonstrated.

The Bible had been committed to the care of the living magisterium. It was the Church's part to guard the Bible, to present it to the faithful in authorized editions or accurate translations, it was for her to make known the nature and value of the Divine Book by declaring what she knew regarding its inspiration and inerrancy, it was for her to supply the key by explaining why and how it had been inspired, how it contained Revelation, how the proper object of that Revelation was not purely human instruction but a religious and moral doctrine with a view to our supernatural destiny and the means to attain it, how, the Old Testament being a preparation and annunciation of the Messias and the new dispensation, there might be found beneath the husk of the letter typical meanings, figures, and prophecies.

It was for the Church in consequence to determine the authentic canon, to specify the special rules and conditions for interpretation, to pronounce in case of doubt as to the exact sense of a given book or text, and even when necessary to safeguard the historical, prophetical, or apologetic value of a given text or passage, to pronounce in certain questions of authenticity, chronology, exegesis, or translation, either to reject an opinion compromising the authority of the book or the veracity of its doctrine or to maintain a given body of revealed truth contained in a given text.

It was above all for the Church to circulate the Divine Book by minting its doctrine, adapting and explaining it, by offering it and drawing from it nourishment wherewith to nourish souls, briefly by supplementing the book, making use of it, and assisting others to make use of it. This is the debt of Scripture to the living magisterium.

On the other hand the living magisterium owes much to Scripture. There it finds the word of God, new-blown so to speak, as it was expressed under Divine agency by the inspired author; while oral tradition, although faithfully transmitting revealed truth with the Divine assistance, nevertheless transmits it only in human formulas. Scripture gives us beyond doubt to a certain extent a human expression of the truth which it presents, since this truth is developed in and by a human brain acting in a human manner, but also to a certain extent Divine, since this human development takes place wholly under the action of God.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15006b.htm

10 posted on 07/03/2011 2:57:07 AM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: alexander_busek

“1. Law To find or prove (someone) guilty of an offense or crime, especially by the verdict of a court: The jury convicted the defendant of manslaughter.
2. To show or declare to be blameworthy; condemn: His remarks convicted him of a lack of sensitivity.
3. To make aware of one’s sinfulness or guilt.
v.intr.”

This is from the online dictionary - Using the third meaning gives the understanding you are looking for. The Holy Spirit convicts us of guilt/sinfulness and henceforth our need for Christ.

Mel


11 posted on 07/03/2011 3:04:50 AM PDT by melsec
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To: Cvengr
Evangelism is not simply a soulish exercise.

Umm, thanks for clearing that up! Because, if you stop a hundred people on the street and ask them "Is Evangelism simply a soulish exercise?", 99 of them will answer: "Yes!"

Seriously: You are using many words - some of which are actually quite commonplace - with "special" (i.e., esoteric) meanings, which is bound to elicit misunderstanding. I'd bet that, even among FReepers, not one in a thousand has ever used the word "soulish" in his life.

Not just words like "to convict." If any ordinary person were to use such a word in the restricted (third) sense you (thankfully, upon request) provided, they would probably be aware of the fact that most people would need a "hint" right off the bat that it was not being used in the customary sense.

When a theological layman like myself reads a contribution like the one you posted, an article heavy with lots of "loaded" words and words used in peculiar, partially archaic senses, it can be quite formidable and "off-putting."

Maybe a contribution like yours would be better off being posted in a "closed" sub-forum, like one devoted to specialized religious questions. What do you think?

Regards,

12 posted on 07/03/2011 5:47:06 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: alexander_busek
It is correct to say the convicting ministry of the Holy Spirit. It is incorrect to label the working of the Holy Spirit as a convincing ministry

God simply does not try to convince sinners to believe in His Son's resurrection. He convicts people of sin, righteousness and judgment.

13 posted on 07/03/2011 8:51:03 AM PDT by bibletruth
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To: bibletruth
Great post,..one slight recommendation on wordsmithing,.. "And as instructed by the glorified Christ to the Apostle Paul for today, we are to preach the reconciliation of God to men:

II Corinthians 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us ministry of reconciliation."

I suspect the meaning is that we are to preach to men, 'the reconciliation to God'.

God is never reconciled to man, but man is reconciled to God. I suspect we both agree on this and the comment probably had than intention, but could be easily mistaken otherwise.

14 posted on 07/03/2011 11:49:34 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr
Yes. Ping.

The preaching I referred to as the reconciliation of God, it is Christ's finished work at the cross that God has made this reconciliation available, i.e., it is OF God that provides the only path which man can be reconciled to God to be forgiven of our sins by the redemption of the purchased possession - us!

15 posted on 07/03/2011 12:32:19 PM PDT by bibletruth
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To: bibletruth

No “sinners prayer”? How can it be genuine without a “sinners prayer”? You know, “Repeat after me...”


16 posted on 07/03/2011 2:00:17 PM PDT by tal hajus (ever the cynic)
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To: tal hajus
Hebrews 11:1 Now Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things NOT seen.

Faith is of things not seen, likewise, prayer is NOT required to be a public prayer, as in "follow after me....". A new believer must only have faith in their heart to believe, and having simply believed the gospel of I Corinthians 15:3-5, if they believe this in their heart, then they are saved eternally and sealed perfectly by the Holy Spirit.

The so called "sinners prayer" is not any official prayer in the Bible; it is often asserted to come from Romans 10:9, but as a model prayer for salvation, it is not directly from anywhere in the Bible.

Bible problems I find with the so called "sinners prayer" are twofold : associated with it are words like "invite Jesus into your heart", or "let Jesus into your heart"; secondly, it is often a public "follow after me" type of coaching.

First, the Bible teaches us in Isaiah that our hearts are desperately wicked, therefore it is impossible to invite Jesus into our desperately wicked heart, especially since the event of inviting occurs before our wicked "heart" is cleansed. Second, no public prayer is any evidence that someone is saved, let alone has just accepted Christ. I have first hand seen too many people that made a good show publicly but later in time were found in unbelief.

17 posted on 07/03/2011 2:33:54 PM PDT by bibletruth
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To: alexander_busek
...if you stop a hundred people on the street and ask them "Is Evangelism simply a soulish exercise?", 99 of them will answer: "Yes!"

Today, I suspect 99% of those stopped on the street don't know the difference between soul and spirit, and of those who do, 75% might be more prone to worshiping the Adversary than Christ.

18 posted on 07/03/2011 3:00:58 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: boatbums; bibletruth

*** How prideful some people can be when they refuse to take God at his word and spend their entire lives fearful and worried that they might not be judged “worthy”.***

It was a Grace Believer who broke the chains of legalism and set me free back in 1973.

Till then I had been laboring to be “approved” and found “worthy”.

I have never looked back.

When my mom lay on her deathbead she cried in terror to her “preachers” that she was afrain she “had not done enough” to merit salvation!

I wanted to scream that “It is not what YOU HAVE DONE, It is what Christ HAS DONE for you!”

Her preachers declared she “had done enough”.


19 posted on 07/03/2011 5:04:27 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare! NEW PHOTOS!)
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To: alexander_busek; bibletruth
Umm, which Bible?

Bibletruth's posted articles all say that the only true Bible is the KJV bible -- all other translations like the NIV etc. are the work of the devil.

Only the KJV is to be used whether in the US or 16th century England or to the Khoi-san tribals -- it should remain in 16th century English. If 16th century English was good enough for Christ and His apostles it should be good for you too :-)

20 posted on 07/04/2011 4:01:37 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: alexander_busek; bibletruth
bibletruth: Learn how to use the Bible and Bible Scriptures and the convicting ministry of the Holy Spirit as the evangelist preaches the grace message

Wait -- bbtut, didn't you say that the Psalms are not meant to be used by Gentile Christians? Also since the Old Testatment, the Gospels etc. were written for Jews primarily, that means that Gentiles shouldn't read them , eh?

What about Gentiles who had a Jewish ancestor in 1189? Can they read the Psalms in their prayer services?

21 posted on 07/04/2011 4:03:39 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: Cronos

Cronos continues to post UNRELATED replys to posts such as this correct Biblical evangelism post. Why? Because he\she cannot with any Bible verse competently and honestly discuss the topic at hand. Cronos has an axe to grind. He\she does not wish to contribute to the topic, this behavior is revenge focused and grind the topic out of context; true grace believing Christians don’t act like this. I bid him\her I Corinthians 15-3-4.


22 posted on 07/04/2011 12:33:01 PM PDT by bibletruth
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To: bibletruth

Good point.

Whenever I hear the phrase, “invite Jesus into your heart!”...I think of a barker outside a strip tease joint trying to rustle up business, yelling something like “...Come on in Jesus,...we want you in here so we all can have a good time!”....not exactly the same situation as first turning back to God, thinking about what He has provided in Christ at the Cross, then talking to God in your heart and telling him about the ways we know we have failed to do what He wanted us to do in His Plan,..then by 1st John 1:9 he’s fair and just to forgive us our sin, or for the new believer, similarly focusing on what Christ provided on the Cross, while facing God and laying whatever we have done which is corrupt from His Plan with Him, in faith allowing and recognizing Christ has already paid for all those sins.

Then when God the Holy Spirit is in fellowship with us, Christ also may indwell us.


23 posted on 07/04/2011 1:28:11 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: alexander_busek; bibletruth
So, before one goes evangelizing, and quoting numerous different passages from an unidentified version of the Bible, wouldn't it be better to first establish which version of the Bible you are using, and why that particular version?

Really?

From what it appears from the post, could you please identify a common translation that does not have those passages contained within? Granted that dynamic equivalences such as the "Living Bible" and "The Message" are not Bibles, but rather the predigested words that have passed through the system of veritable reprobate authors available for the consumption of the Rick Warren types, these passages here maintain roughly the same thought no matter what version.

What is likely most relevant to you is the 1 Corinthians 2:14 principle, whether read in the original koine Greek or one of a myriad of translations the message is the same: The Bible is a closed book to you.

24 posted on 07/04/2011 1:40:27 PM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: bibletruth; The Theophilus
Unrelated replies? Do you mean to say that it's ok for Psalms to be used by Gentile Christians?

You posted an article that said Psalms are not our mail for Prayer today

The Psalms are an excellent source of truth on how David prayer was to work by, but not for today's prayer pattern for the church today. Psalms are primarily Jewish. Psalms outlines the Jewish Davidic Mandate.
, didn't you say that the Psalms are not meant to be used by Gentile Christians? Also since the Old Testatment, the Gospels etc. were written for Jews primarily, that means that Gentiles shouldn't read them , eh?
25 posted on 07/04/2011 10:56:29 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: bibletruth

Of course the problem with your posts saying that the Gospels and all the non-Pauline epistles are for Jews only, that asks the question — what of people who have some Jewish ancestor from 1293 — can they read the psalms as part of their “mail to God” today?


26 posted on 07/04/2011 10:59:03 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: bibletruth

yup, there are only 2 destinations, heaven or hell. Final Sanctification aka Purgatory is not a destination, nor a duration of time, but the end stage of the process of purification by the blood of the Lamb, by the Holy Spirit due to the grace and forgiveness of God.


27 posted on 07/05/2011 1:49:03 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: Cvengr; bibletruth
cv: While it is academically laudable to seek a well translated version of the Bible, the real focus should be on studying His Word in fellowship with Him, allowing God to perform His work in us.

oops, you better tell that to bbtut whose posts insist that anything else than the KJV is utter heresy and the work of the devil, right bibtut?

28 posted on 07/05/2011 1:51:14 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: Cvengr; bibletruth; alexander_busek
cv: While it is academically laudable to seek a well translated version of the Bible, the real focus should be on studying His Word in fellowship with Him, allowing God to perform His work in us.

oops, you better tell that to bbtut whose posts insist that anything else than the KJV is utter heresy and the work of the devil, right bibtut?

29 posted on 07/05/2011 1:51:26 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: bibletruth
Do not make this thread "about" individual Freepers. That is also a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

30 posted on 07/05/2011 6:51:13 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator
all well and good, but your individual Freeper was clearly out to make it individual against me; to which I would say you should make a fair and honest warning against that Freeper also, since he/she instigated this un-christian behavior by making it his/her UN-RELATED argument against me - an individual Freeper also. This individual Freeper has also individually labled me a "heretic" - so you should also review past posts by him/her when I was falsely labled a "heretic" - such behavior certainly does not reflect the mark of a christian Freeper who simply goes around and disagrees with everyone and labels everyone "heretic"
31 posted on 07/05/2011 11:32:59 AM PDT by bibletruth
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To: bibletruth; Cronos; Quix

Cronos reminds me of the narrator in this video...

http://winningateverything/1996


32 posted on 07/05/2011 6:02:37 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


33 posted on 07/05/2011 8:39:00 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: bibletruth; Religion Moderator
This individual Freeper has also individually labled me a "heretic" - so you should also review past posts by him/her when I was falsely labled a "heretic"

Go ahead, I haven't used that term against you or indeed anyone for years.

Those are false accusations

Secondly, it's normal in open threads to have folks call a cult such as yours a heresy etc. (which I haven't as it's too small to bother) -- if this is too barb-filled, then for the thin-skinned there can be caucus threads. I guess you could start a "Only Pauline Epistles from the KJV bible believers caucus" if you so wish.

34 posted on 07/06/2011 1:39:01 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: bibletruth
oh, and by the by, I think you had once defined heretic as
A HERETIC = A person who professes to believe the Holy Scriptures, or the major doctrines (i.e. the “Fundamentals”) found therein, but who believes, embraces, and espouses a LIE (at least one and possibly more) which is clearly contrary to sound and pure doctrine. A Heretic will maintain the appearance of “Orthodoxy” on all the major doctrines (i.e. the “Fundamentals”), but upon close examination will prove to be a LIAR and a DECIEVER concerning at least one of the major tenants or doctrines
, correct?

so anyone who says that Christians should not be reading the psalms is a heretic by this definition.

Anyone who says that the Gospels are primarily for Jews and not for Christians is a heretic by this definition.

35 posted on 07/06/2011 1:42:24 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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