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Very interesting article. The one thing I found very intriguing was that some Islamic teachers have been teaching that Mecca and Medina will be destroyed, thereby causing a march on to Jerusalem.

I can imagine a scenario where Iran nukes, Saudi Arabia, blames Israel and the US. This would eliminate all Islamic/Arab opposition and would unit many other Arab nations to march to their orders. It would also cause Muslims in the US to react quite violently.

1 posted on 07/07/2011 10:15:27 PM PDT by ScubieNuc
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To: ScubieNuc
I have been thinking of this a LOT lately!

Especially in light of the "Chrislam" religion promoted by Rick Warren (The Purpose Driven Life) and Robert Schuller (TV New-Age/Feel-Good-Christianity Preacher).

It supposedly "melds" the best of the two religions together...which is apostacy.

VIDEO: Chrislam: Abomination or Unity With God?

Matthew 24:24 "For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect."

2 posted on 07/07/2011 10:32:07 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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Why is it semingly so hard for Bible *scholars" to accept what is literal straight from the Bible itself?

Scarlet (from the Persian سآقرلآت säqirlāt)

Babylon is Persia and Iran is PERSIA, not saudi arabia. Iran is trying to revive an islamist version of the Persian Empire which includes Iraq, (Babylon,) and they are succeeding.

From 2009:
U.S. TO HELP REBUILD CITY OF BABYLON IN IRAQ

obama was elected in 2008 and since he has been in office, Iran has been his pet.
This week, Iran and Iraq have signed 6 memoranda of understanding and our soldiers have returned to being cannon fodder thanks to Iran's very visible interference in Iraq. obama has allowed this, even mandated it by his policies.
As Americans shed their blood, Babylon rises. LITERALLY

6 posted on 07/07/2011 10:46:01 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Sarah Palin is the mirror by which evil reflects back upon itself until consumed out of existence)
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To: ScubieNuc

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

I actually have been thinking on this independently.

Christ said the last days will be “as the days of Noah”, and I’ve often wondered about that. One of my thoughts has been that in those days, among all the world, there were only 8 righteous- Noah and his family.

Where in the earth today is absolute uniformity of a false religion, that there would be only a hidden family here and there that would be righteous before the Lord? Islamic countries.

It’s just a thought I had, but I’ve been wondering about it.


7 posted on 07/07/2011 10:47:40 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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>>It would also cause Muslims in the US to react quite violently.<<

If they did, they would be wiped out in short order. So would Dearborn.


9 posted on 07/07/2011 10:53:24 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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ping


11 posted on 07/07/2011 10:58:05 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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ping


12 posted on 07/07/2011 10:58:10 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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IMHO, Turkey is currently the nation most likely to step into the ME stew, make a treaty to defend Israel against anyone who attacks it, and rise dramatically in international importance when they actually do defend Israel in some conflict against Islamic attackers. Since the Eastern Roman Empire lasted a thousand years past the Western half and since Istanbul was built on seven hills, there you have it, a neat fit with the usual stuff people say about Rome. Turkey could easily become the head of the Islamic world the same as it was up until the Caliphate collapsed. Some folks think Iran will, but they'll be smashed either by internal forces or by the usual inability of totalitarian revolutions to outlast the first crop of young radicals who help build it. Not the ones who first rule, mind you, but the ones who are in line right behind them.

Now, playing games with "when", that means 1979 for Iran then add seventy years, and you have Iran as toast around 2049 no matter what happens. That's also about a lifespan past when Arafat dedicated himself to Islamic Revolution rather than Marxist Revolution. IOW, right after he returned to the fold of faithful Moon God worshipers making it impossible for anyone other than Islamic Radicals to get popular support and survive. In addition, 1979 is the year when the generals in Turkey first decided that a coup was required and began deciding when to act. In 1980 they staged a coup, had a new constitution drawn up around 1982, and in doing so created the Turkey we all deal with these day. So, 1979 is a critical and Bada Bing, Bada Boom, you have a whole new time-line to market. The beauty of it is that you need only minor changes to the way people currently interpret the better known Scripture passages and you can make it all fit. Just think what a great mew mix you can come up with if you spend a few weeks on it?

Personally I think there are an endless number of ways you can play games with Scripture and events to come up with your own interpretation of prophecy. I think Shoebat is right about the Antichrist rising out of Islam because it fits all the criteria of being anti-Christ and is clearly anti-Christian. Beyond that, I don't care about End Times theories, particularly those that include "The Bestselling Rapture Doctrine" as one of the hooks to sell books.

A friend gave me a book by Shoebat because he says many of the same things I've said over the years when I would criticize popular prophecy theories. Otherwise, I wouldn't know who he is. What he has to say makes at least as much sense as the more popular and more widely accepted interpretations and in my opinion is more solidly grounded in history. There are a lot more important things to focus on than prophecy, though. First and foremost accepting that Christ is your only way to Salvation, then making sure you're carrying your cross and following Him.

But that's all just my opinion and everyone has an opinion. Especially those folks who insist that individual revelation ended with the Apostles but make a very comfortable living by marketing and selling their opinions as if they're individual revelation that allows them to interpret His Word better than anyone else can.

Regards

18 posted on 07/08/2011 12:17:34 AM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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The key to understanding the book of Revelation is in the first four verses. Verse 4 addresses the book to the seven churches of Asia made of people living in the 1st Century AD. Verse 1 states that the events would shortly come to pass. So the book is concerned with events soon to occur to the seven churches of Asia in the 1st century. Nothing happening today has any effect on those people 1,900 years ago who were about to face a stern persecution from the weight of the Romaan Empire. People trying to see modern events in that book are wasting their time. The book of Revelation was addressed to people 1,900 years ago, not to us. The lessons we are to get from it concern how God provided for the spiritual victory of those early Christians who overcame the beast of Roman persecution.
22 posted on 07/08/2011 3:05:09 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: zot

A new take on end times.


26 posted on 07/08/2011 5:32:35 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: ScubieNuc

Is this related?

Iran Steps Up Anti-US Rhetoric, Tightens ties with Iraq, Afghanistan

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/iran-steps-anti-us-rhetoric-tightens-bon


30 posted on 07/08/2011 6:56:40 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: ScubieNuc

How does Mohammedanism go about “Fooling the Very Elect?” If for no other reason, I disagree with your OP because of this question. There is no Christian worth his salt that is fooled by Islam, even for a moment.


37 posted on 07/09/2011 4:06:17 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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