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Atheists Rally Behind New Movie Thriller
My Fox Houston ^ | 08 Jul 2011 | NED HIBBERD

Posted on 07/21/2011 6:57:25 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby

Edited on 07/21/2011 6:58:41 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

It’s Christian vs. Atheist in a new thriller released Friday.

Except the Christian is the bad guy. And atheists are saying this film could be their “Brokeback Mountain,” which broke down barriers for gays six years ago.

The atheist director of “The Ledge” is hoping to start a similar conversation on behalf of non-believers.


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TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Skeptics/Seekers
KEYWORDS: atheism; atheists; hollywood; moviereview; theledge
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1 posted on 07/21/2011 6:57:31 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

Atheists NEED a “Brokeback Mountain”. And a 5 gallon drum of KY.


2 posted on 07/21/2011 7:01:58 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey Barry! Compromise this!!!)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby
Except the Christian is the bad guy.

In other words, pretty much the same as all the other crap coming out of Hollywood.

3 posted on 07/21/2011 7:04:48 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby
Except the Christian is the bad guy.

Then he ain't being a Christian.

4 posted on 07/21/2011 7:05:00 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

These people are such clowns. Just like when the agenda monkeys pretended that Brokeback Mountain was the “first film to break the gay barrier” these idiots are going to pretend this film is the first where a Christian is the bad guy.

Lololololololol


5 posted on 07/21/2011 7:05:34 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Christians portrayed as bad guys in a movie?

Been there, done that.


6 posted on 07/21/2011 7:05:45 PM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby
And atheists are saying this film could be their “Brokeback Mountain,” which broke down barriers for gays six years ago.

That makes sense. Atheism is based upon a fictional view of the world, so why shouldn't it take fiction to popularise it?

7 posted on 07/21/2011 7:08:31 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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To: MAexile

I predict a movie flop. It will start in maybe 800 theaters nationwide and will be replaced by better movies within two weeks.

Personally, I can’t wait to see Courageous this fall. If it is as good as Fireproof, it will be great.


8 posted on 07/21/2011 7:17:20 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

Well, at least they have a movie to rally behind.

Must suck going through life believing in nothing.


9 posted on 07/21/2011 7:22:04 PM PDT by chris37 (representative)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

What have athiests have to offer except for...well...nothing.


10 posted on 07/21/2011 7:23:11 PM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I predict a movie flop. It will start in maybe 800 theaters nationwide and will be replaced by better movies within two weeks.

You mean, like Atlas Shrugged?

(Which I do actually want to see, but it came (nowhere remotely near), and went.)

11 posted on 07/21/2011 7:23:54 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("You fool! Don't you know every Taurus purchased brings us closer to TEOTWAWKI?")
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To: Thane_Banquo

“Except the Christian is the bad guy.”
“In other words, pretty much the same as all the other crap coming out of Hollywood. “

Exactly, what is new here? Another attack on the norms of society, the institutions of society, and the best parts of society.

Pass.


12 posted on 07/21/2011 7:25:34 PM PDT by WOSG (Cut the spending!)
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To: Thane_Banquo

I laughed at the quote saying that usually the atheist or non-Christian ends up being the villain. I doubt she could name one example of such a film made in recent years.


13 posted on 07/21/2011 7:25:52 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

As if THIS is the first movie where the Christian is a bad guy? What else has Hollywood been producing for the last how many years???


14 posted on 07/21/2011 7:26:15 PM PDT by t2buckeye
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

There is no such thing as a non-believers. Even the atheist believes something.


15 posted on 07/21/2011 7:27:53 PM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby
In the playback of people's lives before the ultimate Judge it will be they who lose and proved to be the bad guys. It's that “footage” that counts and not all of their demented fantasy “footage”. Only Christ can make one good by the washing away of all sin by the blood that He shed for the forgiveness of our sins.
16 posted on 07/21/2011 7:29:03 PM PDT by Bellflower (Isa 32:5 The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said [to be] bountiful.))
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Most atheists are people that have not yet found their way to God. Growing up, growing older, having children and losing parents has a real unique way of opening a person's eyes. I just thank heaven my parents have always had rock solid faith and shared that with me. I can not imagine slogging through life believing in nothing. How cold and cynical and pointless the world must look.
17 posted on 07/21/2011 7:30:12 PM PDT by Casie
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

There is no discrimination against atheists. If anything, they have a bigger voice than anyone else in government, legal system, and education.


18 posted on 07/21/2011 7:32:47 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: t2buckeye
To all

What I have never understood about atheists is the following. For the sake of argument lets grant their basic premise to be true. No God and religious practice is wasted effort. Just people being foolish, OK so why can't atheists just let people be foolish. If it has no meaning then they shouldn't care how others waste their life on it.

I utterly don't understand their militancy. Unless they are so unsure of their atheism they need to constant validation of converting others to their view point.

19 posted on 07/21/2011 7:34:35 PM PDT by Reily
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby
My thought exactly.

“Usually the atheist, or the person that's not the Christian, usually ends up being the villain,” she says.

This is delusional.

20 posted on 07/21/2011 7:35:16 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: chris37
Psalm 14... The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.

PS. Takes more faith to be an atheist IMO. Try proving that God doesn't exist.

21 posted on 07/21/2011 7:35:56 PM PDT by tflabo ( to have been selected)
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To: Lee N. Field

A flop is a flop.


22 posted on 07/21/2011 7:37:25 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
A flop is a flop.

Exactly. Just like Kevin Smith's 'Red State' was an utter failure. IMDB says 'The Ledge' was released on May 26, 2011. Amazon has its DVD being released in September. So that tells me it is essentially a straight-to-video. I never heard of it being in any theater. So it was a flop like would be expected.
23 posted on 07/21/2011 7:45:50 PM PDT by brent13a (You're a Great American! NO you're a Great American! NO NO NO YOU'RE a Great American! Nooo.....WTF?)
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To: chris37

What do you call an atheist’s funeral?

“All dressed up and no place to go!!” Ba-doo-bop!

Hey, didja know that Lenin’s Tomb is a commie plot?

Ba-doo-bop!

OK, atheist FReepers, flame away. G-d is my secret Judge.


24 posted on 07/21/2011 7:45:50 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport Muslims. Nuke Mecca. Death to Islam. Freedom for mankind.")
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To: tflabo
PS. Takes more faith to be an atheist IMO. Try proving that God doesn't exist.

Only a few atheists think they can prove that God does not exist, or would waste their time trying.

For most atheists, including me, God is just a subject about we don't particularly concern ourselves one way or another. The existence or non-existence of God is probably about 17,283rd in the list of things I think about.

I'll never try to convert you, and all I ask in return is the same courtesy.

25 posted on 07/21/2011 7:51:58 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (I have not heard a single Michele or Cain backer threaten to stay home if Palin is nominated.)
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To: tflabo

Oh yes, I have argued before that atheism is a religion.

It is a religion whose god is man.


26 posted on 07/21/2011 7:52:43 PM PDT by chris37 (representative)
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To: elcid1970

Hehe :)

No flames from me though, I believe in Jesus Christ.


27 posted on 07/21/2011 7:55:16 PM PDT by chris37 (representative)
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To: Reily
OK so why can't atheists just let people be foolish.

For every obnoxious atheist who runs around railing against religion and suing to get the creche taken off the courthouse lawn, there are a hundred more who just quietly unbelieve, and are perfectly willing to "let people be foolish". I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there are a few of them sitting in the pews at your church.

28 posted on 07/21/2011 7:55:40 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (I have not heard a single Michele or Cain backer threaten to stay home if Palin is nominated.)
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To: chris37
Well, at least they have a movie to rally behind. Must suck going through life believing in nothing.

That's their story and they're stiking to it.

I don't believe in atheists. :^)

There is profound truth in saying: "There are no atheists in foxholes."

29 posted on 07/21/2011 8:11:31 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby; Revolting cat!

Gay atheist sheep herders?

An Oscar winner for sure.


30 posted on 07/21/2011 8:12:02 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The liberal press applauded when the NY Times hacked Newt Gingrich's phone calls.)
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To: Notary Sojac

Well, I know there’s one sitting in the White House right now. :o)


31 posted on 07/21/2011 8:22:07 PM PDT by boatbums ( God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Reily
I utterly don't understand their militancy. Unless they are so unsure of their atheism they need to constant validation of converting others to their view point.

Militant atheists do believe in God on a basic level. You don't expend that kind of energy on something you don't believe exists.

They have a deep and abiding hatred of their "father" and simply project it towards God. They are victims of abuse and on some level are angry with God because they see Him the same way they see their tormentor or they are angry with God because of what happened to them.

Their hatred invariably winds up directed at anyone who believes in God. They can't hurt God, but they can villify and malign those who believe in God and religion, and attack God by proxy.

32 posted on 07/21/2011 8:25:11 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby
I laughed at the quote saying that usually the atheist or non-Christian ends up being the villain. I doubt she could name one example of such a film made in recent years.

That thought did occur, you're right! Hmmm ... I'm sitting here trying to think of one, but I don't go to movies much. But I can think of a lot of favorite secular movies that, usually even unknowingly, show and enforce Christian ethics, in some really neat and profound ways. My personal favorite unknowing messenger was Soldier with Kurt Russell. A really nice tale of redemption! Nothing Christian in it, except that it had all to do with love, and ... well, you know what the bible says about love.

Atheists, go ahead and be atheists, that's your dealy-bob. Remember that the civilization in which you live rose from about 15 thousand generations of people adopting the framework of the Judeo-Christian ethic. Lincoln didn't free the slaves, Judeo-Christianity did, and British sailors and Royal Marines shed their blood to enforce it because they came from a Christian nation.

The JD has very simple rules. Ten Commandments, "Do Unto Others," seven deadly sins (such as envy, which is the most evil malady affecting our popular culture -- where it should be condemned, it is welcomed and sympathized with. DISGUSTING) ... you don't have to "believe," you don't have to pay tithe, you don't have to acknowledge Christ, you can just ride along and do right and prosper with everybody else. But don't for a minute think humanity was born with the Judeo Christian ethic in place. Islam has an ethic that dooms it to strife and misery. Heathen folks in tribal situations will kill their own kids; just read about a tribe somewhere doing it a few months ago. People aren't born with the JD morality. It's taught.

I don't call atheists freeloaders. They're taggers-on. They contribute as much as anybody as long as they adhere to the JD ethic.

Atheists, remember how you got here, who's backs you're riding on, and I THANK YOU, as I bet that in your lives you pretty much adhere to the Judeo-Christian ethic. You just forgot where it came from.

33 posted on 07/21/2011 8:36:33 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

I’m looking forward to the Christian vs. Atheist rallies when the movie Suing the Devil opens in theatres next month.


34 posted on 07/21/2011 8:40:08 PM PDT by ruralvoter
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

I’m looking forward to the Christian vs. Atheist rallies when the movie Suing the Devil opens in theatres next month.


35 posted on 07/21/2011 8:40:19 PM PDT by ruralvoter
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

I was doing a movie review of “soul Surfer” (which I didn’t especially like) and the Wikipedia article mentions that the Hollywood folk wanted to air brush out “the Bible” from the book her father read at her bedside, and to eliminate that one quote was from the bible (i.e. not mention where she got the quote). This was supposed to make it palatable for “ordinary” audiences.

My review was critical because the movie glossed over the family’s deep religion in the plot, (the “religious” scenes seemed to be plopped in there out of context) but made it instead a movie about finding the American dream of being famous and successful.


36 posted on 07/21/2011 8:45:01 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: karnage

(( ping ))


37 posted on 07/21/2011 8:45:51 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Casie

Most atheists are people that have not yet found their way to God. Growing up, growing older, having children and losing parents has a real unique way of opening a person’s eyes.

- - - - -
I am good friends with a woman who escaped polygamy at 18. She spent almost 30 years as an atheist, then became a Christian. She now runs a Christian ministry to those trapped in polygamy and has a TV show exposing polygamy in Utah.


38 posted on 07/21/2011 8:47:20 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby
And atheists are saying this film could be their “Brokeback Mountain...”

Yeah, but seriously...who wants to see Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens having sex?

39 posted on 07/21/2011 8:55:41 PM PDT by RichInOC ("ARMAGEDDON!!!" *BOOM!* "And the rodents' red glare...gerbils bursting in air...")
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

What is it with all the atheist proselytizing these days?

I can’t understand why they get so freaked out about stuff they don’t believe in.

Hey atheists, go lecture the Muslims, let us know their reaction to your efforts. The rest of us don’t care about your non-belief in stuff you don’t believe in.

Sheesh!


40 posted on 07/21/2011 8:56:05 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

I’ll wait for the DVD.


41 posted on 07/21/2011 9:05:01 PM PDT by BigCinBigD
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To: elcid1970

Did you here about the atheist with dyslexia who didn’t believe in Dogs?


42 posted on 07/21/2011 9:31:29 PM PDT by Avery Iota Kracker (He hate me)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

What atheists don’t get is that the IDEA of God is a fact. They reside in the smugness of their argument that “you can’t prove there is a God.” They overlook the importance of the idea of God and are therefore pathetic. The ones who attack believers are...well, let me just say I’d like to pinch their damn heads off.


43 posted on 07/21/2011 9:37:55 PM PDT by Avery Iota Kracker (He hate me)
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To: Avery Iota Kracker
I appreciate what you're intimating, but it actually goes deeper than that.

Atheism is a religion in its own right. The premise of an atheists argument is dependent upon an anti-supernatural bias.

By definition such bias is illogical. That notwithstanding, by definition scientists must eschew supernatural explanations with respect to rigorous proofs.

44 posted on 07/21/2011 9:44:12 PM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: raygun

“Atheism is a religion in its own right. The premise of an atheists argument is dependent upon an anti-supernatural bias.”
I don’t have an argument. I just don’t believe in the existence of gods.


45 posted on 07/21/2011 9:53:02 PM PDT by running_dog_lackey
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To: Avery Iota Kracker
I'll concede the fact that a certain smugness is implied. Atheists afterall, based on the basis of their being athiest, are vastly intellectually superior to those who subscribe to the notion of the supernatural.

Can you imagine Cortez showing up in the New World with a single M-16 and vast quantities of ammunition? With a single common ordinary tool, he could've translated the supernatural ability of penicillan into a vast empire where a single potatoe would cost currently $100 in gold or even more.

One of the premises of atheists is that the overwhelming perspective of virtually EVERY civilization since the dawn of history has embraced supra-natrualism in some form, fashiom or practice; such notion is antiquated and superfluous to reason, and a rational view of the universe. It would appear that modernist enlightened philosophy would require the notion of oblivion to become paramount. That on its face smacks to be no less than Nirvana.

46 posted on 07/21/2011 9:56:08 PM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: running_dog_lackey
I hear what you're saying. I'm going to defer to the objections of those who vehemently oppose the "spooky action at a distance" and those believing quantum entanglement is science fiction.

If you're position is that God does not exist, or that supra-natural beings do not, then you truly do no understand quantum mechanics.

47 posted on 07/21/2011 9:59:56 PM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: running_dog_lackey
You responded to my post with reference to the sentance you cared to mention.

The fact of the matter is: is anti-supernaturalism rational?

My original statement is one that I stand next to and proudly wear as a badge: atheism is a religion.

48 posted on 07/21/2011 10:05:48 PM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: running_dog_lackey

The basis of a religion is dogma w/out any proof.

Atheism has no proof to support its claims.


49 posted on 07/21/2011 10:11:14 PM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: raygun

“My original statement is one that I stand next to and proudly wear as a badge: atheism is a religion.”

Well then, how about follow the golden rule and give my religion the same respect that you would like for me to give to yours.


50 posted on 07/21/2011 10:17:45 PM PDT by running_dog_lackey
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