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Popular Christian Ministry Changes its Name
FOX News ^ | 07/24/2011 | Jonathan Morris

Posted on 07/24/2011 6:42:46 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow

Father Jonathan Morris discusses why the popular ministry, Campus Crusade for Christ, has changed its name to simply 'Cru.'


TOPICS: Ministry/Outreach; Other Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: campus; christ; cru; jonathanmorris; morris

1 posted on 07/24/2011 6:42:50 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow
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To: BelegStrongbow

Here’s logic for you, people are turned off by the word ‘crusade’, so Campus Crusade for Christ makes that all better by eliminating Christ.

And Fr. Morris buys into it.

I don’t like that one little bit. If you deny our Lord before men, He will deny you before His heavenly Father, Jonathan.


2 posted on 07/24/2011 6:44:52 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: BelegStrongbow

Amen


3 posted on 07/24/2011 6:48:39 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: BelegStrongbow

i wonder if they’ll re-make Christ with shades and doin’ those stupid palsied-hand gestures? “The Word!”


4 posted on 07/24/2011 6:50:39 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (In loving memory of Abraham Lincoln, 1809 - 1865)
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To: BelegStrongbow

I think they’re assuming that “youth” are unable to assimilate any content beyond a single syllable. I’m just surprised they didn’t incorporate 2 or 4 as a preposition, or 8 as a syllable.

(/cranky old bat)


5 posted on 07/24/2011 6:53:53 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Public schools = TSA: incompetent, abusive, anti-American. Why are we putting up with either one?)
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To: BelegStrongbow

+1


6 posted on 07/24/2011 6:56:37 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: BelegStrongbow

Amen to that.......


7 posted on 07/24/2011 6:58:42 AM PDT by Kimmers (Tell a lie often enough it becomes political........)
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To: BelegStrongbow

Cru is what everyone calls it.


8 posted on 07/24/2011 7:00:14 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: BelegStrongbow

A few years ago, didn’t they change the name to Agape? On my campus, they did!!!


9 posted on 07/24/2011 7:00:52 AM PDT by Ro_Thunder (I sure hope there is a New Morning in America soon. All this hope and change is leaving me depressed)
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To: BelegStrongbow

when churches drop “Christ”

they are no longer “in Christ”.


10 posted on 07/24/2011 7:12:15 AM PDT by ken21 (liberal + rino progressive media hate palin, bachman, cain...)
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To: Tax-chick

I watched this video, yikes. Never mind “cru”, what’s with the form-fitting yellow bimbo outfit? Last I remember, TV infobabes were looking rather desperate for attention, but sheesh. What’s she saying, Babylon or bust? Just the normal media “business” attire I suppose.


11 posted on 07/24/2011 7:13:27 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Ezekiel

I don’t know which is worse, the “Look at me, I’m nearly naked!” outfit, or the priest sitting there mealy-mouthing PC blather instead of saying, “You are a beloved daughter of God, not a walking pair of breasts and a va-—. Put some clothes on and demand respect, for yourself and other women.”


12 posted on 07/24/2011 7:20:43 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Public schools = TSA: incompetent, abusive, anti-American. Why are we putting up with either one?)
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To: Tax-chick

I think he was trying avoid distraction, ugh. That dress looked spray-painted on. Used to be that those sorts of outfits were the kind that appeared under street lights.


13 posted on 07/24/2011 7:30:06 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: BelegStrongbow

bttt


14 posted on 07/24/2011 7:33:34 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Ezekiel

There’s a time to avoid distraction, and a time to confront egregious provocation. I think this was the latter.

Almost all women on tv news seem to be there to show breasts and legs. Some of them, I’m sure, even the most “eager” men wish they would cover up, on “what has been seen can’t be Unseen” grounds ;-).


15 posted on 07/24/2011 7:34:08 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Public schools = TSA: incompetent, abusive, anti-American. Why are we putting up with either one?)
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To: Tax-chick

He should tell Fox that he won’t accept invitations to their studio until their women are properly clothed. These gals don’t even comprehend self-respect and dignity enough to be embarrassed.


16 posted on 07/24/2011 8:01:33 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Ezekiel
These gals don’t even comprehend self-respect and dignity enough to be embarrassed.

They've been taught all their lives that getting men to feel lust is the greatest achievement to which they can aspire.

17 posted on 07/24/2011 8:05:14 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Public schools = TSA: incompetent, abusive, anti-American. Why are we putting up with either one?)
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To: ken21

Agree 100%!!


18 posted on 07/24/2011 8:20:47 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Tax-chick

Next year, look for yet another name change. It will go from “Cru” to “F’in’ Cru”.


19 posted on 07/24/2011 9:30:25 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012)
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To: Ezekiel

I went back to see the video after your post. Good grief! That is th
e worst yet among the ever declining dress standards. Poor Fr. Morris.

With that staring him in the face, it’s no wonder the priest erred on the side of not so good.

I have been harping for years about how the plunging necklines and thigh exposure on the Fox females is very unbusinesslike. There are many male viewers, I know, who are just fine with the exposure.


20 posted on 07/24/2011 9:34:52 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012)
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To: Ezekiel

He should tell Fox that he won’t accept invitations to their studio until their women are properly clothed.

&&&
Exactly.


21 posted on 07/24/2011 9:37:04 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012)
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To: BelegStrongbow

The name Campus Crusade for Christ is dated and no longer works and in many countries of the world shuts the doors to ministry immediatly.
The same thing is happening with many missions groups. As an example, Gospel Missionary Union became Avant Ministries a few years back.

No big deal.

I would have suggested a different name than Cru, but whatever.


22 posted on 07/24/2011 9:58:57 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (This message carfully checkd to misteakes by powerful softwhere)
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To: BelegStrongbow
The word "crusade" comes from the Latin crux ("cross") and the suffix -atus (person associated with), so a "crusade" is something done by "crusaders," who are "with-the-cross-people". "Crusade for Christ" is therefore a redundancy; a crusade for someone or something other than Christ is using the term metaphorically -- the only real crusades, the only ones that are accurately so-called, are for Christ.

I have no idea what "Cru" means. It reminds me of a misspelling of a rowing sport, or perhaps a childhood disease missing the consonant at the end.

23 posted on 07/24/2011 10:48:28 AM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: Campion
The word "crusade" comes from the Latin crux ("cross") and the suffix -atus (person associated with), so a "crusade" is something done by "crusaders," who are "with-the-cross-people". "Crusade for Christ" is therefore a redundancy; a crusade for someone or something other than Christ is using the term metaphorically -- the only real crusades, the only ones that are accurately so-called, are for Christ.

Amy Winehouse is dead.

24 posted on 07/24/2011 10:52:09 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If you pet a tiny goose, you will feel a little down.)
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To: Lazamataz

RIP, although the relevance escapes me.


25 posted on 07/24/2011 11:10:18 AM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: BelegStrongbow; All
It's not a light matter to remove CHRIST from your preaching or nameplate, as CCCI is doing, as I wrote/posted in an earlier post Friday.

Motivation: Remember, God sees the motivation of the heart and the motivation for this act by CCCI is none other than offended by the name of CHRIST and ashamed of the gospel of CHRIST.

There is absolutely NO valid justification for removing the name CHRIST when it was formerly use as a nameplate in goodwill and mission: but now removing it is demonstrating that they are offended by the name of CHRIST and ashamed of the gospel of CHRIST.

When CCCI plans to remove the name of Christ, they are removing the offense of Christ's cross. Labeling it only God's love without the name of CHRIST and the CROSS is demonstrating that they are ASHAMED of the gospel of Christ and the cross of Christ.

Romans 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel... In fact, Campus Crusade for Christ is NOW demonstrating by this organization 'name' change and the removing of 'CHRIST' from their organization's name, that they ARE FINALLY ASHAMED of the gospel of Christ.

So they say 'God instructed them to this -cru- name'. Oh yeah, when would God Almighty remove His Sons name - CHRIST? Answer that one.

They say: There's only one reason we'd change. We want to do a better job of connecting people to God's love and forgiveness.

WRONG: So where is the cross of CHRIST. For 2,000 years the name of Christ IS. And this organization used that name, CHRIST, as part of their nameplate mission. BUT now, no more. When someone or any organization refuses to use the name of Christ, then they ARE ASHAMED of the gospel of Christ.

Why and How can I enumerate this?

Consider when someone or some org refuses to be identified with the name of Christ - especially after having used the name CHRIST as part of their nameplate mission - then that someone/organization is OFFENDED by the name of CHRIST. The true motivation of removing CHRIST from their nameplate and well-known goodwill mission, is because now they are finally offended and ashamed of being recognized by the name of CHRIST. By removing that name, CHRIST, from their nameplate they are abandoning the decade old goodwill mission of the name of CHRIST that they currently have. It's exceedingly sad to see the caving-in to lessor purposes that the name of CHRIST shall to be removed. Apparently, since that name of CHRIST offends, then the preaching of CHRIST will also offend people, so they remove CHRIST's name to subvert the offense when sharing the good news to people. Since the name of CHRIST is far superior, and a name that is above all names, then removing it can only be the motivation of being ashamed of His name and offended by His name: CHRIST JESUS: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. (Acts 4:12)

26 posted on 07/24/2011 11:42:48 AM PDT by bibletruth
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To: BelegStrongbow

That’s why there’s an upside for going to hispanic communities in L.A.

I was in panorama city 3 weeks back with my Filipino bud, and were in a strip mall with mostly mex buyers and almost at every 200 feet, there’s either grotto of the Virgin Mary or a mural of Jesus.


27 posted on 07/24/2011 12:14:30 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: InvisibleChurch

28 posted on 07/24/2011 1:13:00 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Support a South California. 13 million people deserve representation!)
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To: max americana

THrough this response I’d like to thank all who posted. I’d post back to each but typing ‘dittos’ 23 times would get a little tedious.

God bless you all.

I do have one comment: to the posters who pointed out that Crusade means ‘person associated with the cross’ and thus thought this made ‘Christ’ redundant, you must keep in mind my other point: if Crusade is the part that makes people wary, then you remove the word ‘crusade’, then your point is clear: Campus for Christ. Can’t get any better than that, as I see it.


29 posted on 07/24/2011 4:12:42 PM PDT by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: Tax-chick

Actually, rather a lot of the Girbilism majors seek to incite lust in other women just as much.

Go take some courses at a university now and see. (but wear something frumpy)


30 posted on 07/24/2011 8:05:58 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd

I’m afraid I’m too old for that!


31 posted on 07/25/2011 5:17:53 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Public schools = TSA: incompetent, abusive, anti-American. Why are we putting up with either one?)
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To: BelegStrongbow
I do have one comment

Yup. I was just pointing out that "Campus Crusade for Christ" was kind of a silly name to begin with -- people on a college campus ought to know enough English and history to know that it's a redundancy -- and "Cru" is far worse. "Campus for Christ" or "Campus Crusade" would both be fine, imo.

32 posted on 07/25/2011 5:56:05 AM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: BelegStrongbow
cru? Sounds dirty... LINK

so was the offending word "crusade" or Christ?

33 posted on 07/25/2011 6:54:19 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: LadyDoc

They dance around it, but I believe the word they cannot handle is Christ. This is not news: our Lord and Savior has been a scandal and a horror to the world from the day He stepped up from Jordan. But His sheep hear His voice and know it and come in through the door to be with Him.


34 posted on 07/25/2011 8:37:22 PM PDT by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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