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The Apocalypse Of Saint John (Revelation) Chapter 2
Douay-Rheims ^ | 70 AD | St. John

Posted on 07/28/2011 3:51:10 AM PDT by Cronos

Directions what to write to the angels or bishops of Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamus and Thyatira.

[1] Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write: These things saith he, who holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks: [2] I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them that are evil, and thou hast tried them, who say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: [3] And thou hast patience, and hast endured for my name, and hast not fainted. [4] But I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first charity. [5] Be mindful therefore from whence thou art fallen: and do penance, and do the first works. Or else I come to thee, and will move thy candlestick out of its place, except thou do penance.

[6] But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaites, which I also hate. [7] He, that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith to the churches: To him, that overcometh, I will give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the paradise of my God. [8] And to the angel of the church of Smyrna write: These things saith the First and the Last, who was dead, and is alive: [9] I know thy tribulation and thy poverty, but thou art rich: and thou art blasphemed by them that say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. [10] Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer. Behold, the devil will cast some of you into prison that you may be tried: and you shall have tribulation ten days. Be thou faithful until death: and I will give thee the crown of life.

[11] He, that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith to the churches: He that shall overcome, shall not be hurt by the second death. [12] And to the angel of the church of Pergamus write: These things, saith he, that hath the sharp two edged sword: [13] I know where thou dwellest, where the seat of Satan is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith. Even in those days when Antipas was my faithful witness, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth. [14] But I have against thee a few things: because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat, and to commit fornication: [15] So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaites.

[16] In like manner do penance: if not, I will come to thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. [17] He, that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith to the churches: To him that overcometh, I will give the hidden manna, and will give him a white counter, and in the counter, a new name written, which no man knoweth, but he that receiveth it. [18] And to the angel of the church of Thyatira write: These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like to a flame of fire, and his feet like to fine brass. [19] I know thy works, and thy faith, and thy charity, and thy ministry, and thy patience, and thy last works which are more than the former. [20] But I have against thee a few things: because thou sufferest the woman Jezabel, who calleth herself a prophetess, to teach, and to seduce my servants, to commit fornication, and to eat of things sacrificed to idols.

[21] And I gave her a time that she might do penance, and she will not repent of her fornication. [22] Behold, I will cast her into a bed: and they that commit adultery with her shall be in very great tribulation, except they do penance from their deeds. [23] And I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am he that searcheth the reins and hearts, and I will give to every one of you according to your works. But to you I say, [24] And to the rest who are at Thyatira: Whosoever have not this doctrine, and who have not known the depths of Satan, as they say, I will not put upon you any other burthen. [25] Yet that, which you have, hold fast till I come.

[26] And he that shall overcome, and keep my works unto the end, I will give him power over the nations. [27] And he shall rule them with a rod of iron, and as the vessel of a potter they shall be broken, [28] As I also have received of my Father: and I will give him the morning star. [29] He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith to the churches.

"Power over the nations"... This shews, that the saints, who are with Christ our Lord in heaven, receive power from him to preside over nations and provinces, as patrons; and shall come with him at the end of the world to execute his will against those who have not kept his commandments.


TOPICS: Catholic; Theology
KEYWORDS: apocalypse

1 posted on 07/28/2011 3:51:15 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaism


2 posted on 07/28/2011 5:48:19 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Cronos

Rev. 5:10 says these are to be not patrons but kings and priests who would rule over the earth with Christ comprising a “new heavens”.


3 posted on 07/28/2011 6:26:04 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Cronos

I’ve got to get out the Bible study that I led on Revelation. So much of it is masked and allegorical.


4 posted on 07/28/2011 8:44:41 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

It is masked and allegorical to you because you do not have a clear understanding of the Old Testament which fully explains all the symbols and symbolisms. The key to understand Revelation and the wrath of God beginning in Revelation 6 (end of chapter) and all the Jewish tribulation is fully expounded inside the Old Testament. I have just finished a full and complete book of Revelation and I shall begin to share this understanding for those in need and humble under the teaching ministry of God the Holy Spirit.


5 posted on 07/28/2011 8:20:52 PM PDT by bibletruth
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To: Cronos

Apocalypse ii.

Notes & Commentary:

Ver. 1-7. To the Angel of the church of Ephesus. The great St. Timothy, who was bishop of Ephesus, died a glorious martyr about this time. But as for the admonitions and reprehensions given in these letters, we must take notice, that they are given to the faithful of each church, and not only to the bishops, as it appears by the words so often repeated. (Witham) -— Angel. This could have been no other than St. Timothy, who was then bishop of Ephesus. We must not suppose the faults, which are reproved by St. John, to belong individually to St. Timothy, but to some members of the Church. (Bossuet, and others) -— These things, saith he, who holdeth, &c. That is, Christ, or the Angel who represented Christ, as appeareth by his titles repeated out of the last chapter. -— And hast not failed, or fainted, in opposing the teachers of false doctrine. -— Thou has left thy first charity, or first fervour, a common, yet a very dangerous disposition, and especially in a bishop, charged with the care of those under him. -— Do penance....practise the first works, return to thy first fervour, or I will remove thy candlestick out of its place. The church of Ephesus is threatened, as in danger to lose its faith, which faith should be transplanted and received in other places. It is what God has divers times permitted, that churches flourishing in the profession of the true Christian faith should be perverted by infidelity and heresy, while the faith hath been planted in other kingdoms of the world. I need not bring instances, where candlesticks have been removed out of their places. (Witham) -— The Nicolaites were an infamous sect, who disturbed the rising Church by the superstitions and all the impurities of paganism. See St. Augustine, de hæresib. -— To him, to every one that overcometh, I will give to eat of the tree of life, (that is, eternal happiness, differently expressed in these letters) which is in the paradise of my God. It is spoke in the person of Christ, as man. (Witham)

Ver. 8-11. To the Angel of the church of Smyrna. To St. Polycarp, or some bishop there before him. No reprehension is given to this bishop, or to his church, but a commendation for suffering in poverty and tribulation, when they were rich in grace. (Witham) -— Poverty. He was poor in temporal things, but rich in grace and merits. -— Thou art blasphemed by those false teachers, who call themselves Jews and Israelites, and the chosen people of God, waiting for the coming of the Messias, but are not to be looked upon as such; having refused to own their true Messias, Jesus Christ, they are the Synagogue of Satan, the greatest enemies of the true faith. -— You shall have tribulation ten days, which several here understand for a long time, others for a short time, ten times being used in both senses. (Witham) -— The first death is that of the body, the second of the soul. (Ven. Bede)

Ver. 12-17. To the Angel of the Church of Pergamus. This Church is exhorted to do penance, and reprehended, as the seat or throne of Satan. It is only said, that the bishop lives where this satanical seat is, that he had not denied the faith, even under the persecution, when St. Antipas suffered martyrdom, of whom see Tillemont in the persecution under Domitian, tom. ii, p. 119, and note 523; and Bollandus, April 11th; though the acts themselves be not of great authority. -— Thou hast them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaites, which is compared to that of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a scandal before the children of Israel, by which they were seduced by the women of the Moabites, and fell into the sin of fornication and idolatry. (Numbers xxiv. and xxxi. 16.) -— To him that overcometh, I will give the hidden manna; a happiness in heaven, which the eye hath not seen, &c. -— And a white[1] stone, with a new name written, as a mark of the happiness promised to all those who shall conquer. An allusion to the custom of giving a white stone to those that were tried and acquitted, and also to persons promoted to a dignity; and a black stone to such as were found guilty. See Acts xxvi. 10. (Witham) -— This new name is the eternal recompense, unknown and despised by worldlings, but esteemed by the faithful, who know the excellence of the rewards promised by God. (Calmet)

Ver. 18-29. To the Angel of the church of Thyatira. Here is first a commendation of their constancy in the faith, in good works, charity, patience, and ministry, which chiefly regards their bishop, whoever he was at that time. The heretics, called Alogians, who rejected the Apocalypse, (chiefly because of the clear proofs of the divinity of the Word, or Son of God) pretended that there was not church at Thyatira, when St. John is supposed to have written his Apocalypse. They have no proof of this. This same church was afterwards perverted by the Montanists. See St. Epiphanius, hær. li. p. 455. Here follows a reprehension that they permitted the woman, (here called by the name of Jezabel,[2] as was called the wife of Achaz, who persecuted the true prophets, and protected the false ones, 3 Kings xviii.) to seduce the servants of God, to commit fornication, and eat of things offered to idols. There is no probability that this Jezabel was wife to the bishop of that church. Had this been true, the bishop would have deserved a reprehension much more severe than is here given him. Alcazar thinks that by this woman was meant some heretical sect, or the corrupt synagogue of the Jews; but interpreters commonly understand some powerful woman thereabout among the infamous Nicolaites, who by her authority and artifices, brought many to embrace that sect. -— I give her time to do penance; and she will not, or would not repent. It is Christ who speaks as God, for who but God gives sinners time to repent? -— Behold, I will cast her into a bed, &c. Some understand a bed of sickness, others of corporal death, others eternal torments in hell, where she, and they that sin with her, shall be in very great tribulation, unless first they do penance. -— All the churches shall know that I am he, who searcheth the reins and hearts, which God alone can do. See Psalm vii. 10.; Jeremias xvii. 10.; &c. It is God also who will give to every one....according to his works. See Psalm lxi. 13.; Proverbs xxiv. 12.; Romans ii. 6. and in divers other places. -— I will not put upon you any other weight, &c. That is, not the insupportable burden of the Jewish ceremonies, to which teachers of false doctrines would have you subject. (Witham) -— Whoever does not give in to this new doctrine of the Nicolaites and Gnostics, and does not approve the deep and abstruse doctrines of Satan, which they teach, shall have no new weight or punishment. Let them keep the doctrine once delivered. (Calmet) -— Yet in the faith which you have already learnt, remain steadfast, till I come. -— To them who shall overcome, &c. I will give power over or above all nations. This shews that the saints, who are with Christ our Lord in heaven, receive power from him to preside over nations, and provinces, as patrons; and shall come with him at the end of the world to execute his will against those who have not kept his commandments. (Challoner) -— End. This alludes to the day of judgment, when the faithful shall sit on thrones with Christ. And he shall inherit the morning star of perpetual bliss, that shall never set. -— They shall triumph over all the wicked world, and under me shall rule them, as it were, with a rod of iron, being so much exalted above them. -— As the vessel of a potter, shall all their present greatness be broken. To every such faithful servant, I will give the morning star, another expression to signify eternal light, or eternal happiness. (Witham)

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[1] Ver. 17. Calculum candidum, psephon leuken. See Acts xxvi. 10.

[2] Ver. 20. Mulierem Jezabel, ten gunaika Iezabel. Dr. Wells, in his amendments to the Protestant translation, has put thy wife, and in the Greek gunaika sou, which he says is found in the Alexandrian and several other manuscripts. But neither the Oxford edition of 1675, nor that at Amsterdam of 1711, take notice of this reading in any one manuscript. As for that one manuscript of Alexandria, I guess by Walton’s Polyglot, that it cannot well be read in that place. And though it is likely that the author of the Syriac version may have found that reading, yet there is nothing for it in the Arabic or Ethiopic, nor in the vulgar Latin, which, as Dr. Wells himself takes notice on 1 John v. 7. is more ancient than any other version or Greek manuscripts. And though we find uxorem tuam in St. Cyprian ad Antonianum, edit. Rig. p. 72, and in the edition of Dr. Fell, published in Amsterdam, in the year 1701, p. 248, where he says in the note mark a, cui interpretationi favent illa Græca exemplaria, quæ legunt, gunaika sou, but he did not think fit to tell us where any such manuscripts were to be found, nor have I heard that they have been seen by any one. It is certain St. Epiphanius did not find sou, nor think this the true reading, when in the heresy of the Alogians, by Jezabel, he understands Maximilla, Priscilla, or Quintilla, in Marcion’s time.


6 posted on 07/28/2011 9:28:06 PM PDT by johngrace
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To: johngrace

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7 posted on 07/28/2011 9:28:42 PM PDT by johngrace
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To: All; Cronos

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8 posted on 07/28/2011 9:41:13 PM PDT by johngrace
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To: bibletruth; Salvation
I have just finished a full and complete book of Revelation and I shall begin to share this understanding for those in need and humble under the teaching ministry of God the Holy Spirit.

Yet doesn't your cult think that Apocalypse should not be read by Christians, just as it thinks that Psalms are not for Christians, nor the gospels?

9 posted on 07/28/2011 10:00:58 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: Cronos; bibletruth; Salvation
Hi Bibletruth-Do you claim to understand everything hidden. This is what Salvation was writing about. Also please no traditional reformer anti-crap.

Be a real solo-scripto by reading a Bible without other books because if not. You are not reading the bible alone. You are reading other people's opinion about a said verse when you do it. You are letting other people connect the dots thus solo-scripto is a farce.

Today, I just watch a preacher say Christ was abused in hell. Thats nuts.

10 posted on 07/28/2011 10:15:56 PM PDT by johngrace
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To: Cronos

My grace church is no cult...your religion has infinitely more cult characteristics than mine and my absolute salvation which is paid in full by Christ Jesus...so stop the personal attacks on me and my fellow grace believer-saints...I am saved by grace, not by catholic doctrines of traditions of men...you insults are a sorry example of a catholic, sorry, you’re not a real Christian, it is evident from you insulting manner of always labeling everyone except your kind as cults


11 posted on 07/28/2011 10:30:56 PM PDT by bibletruth
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To: bibletruth
Actually, I am a Christian -- your cult is not. Your cult rejects the OT, Gospel, Psalms etc as being "just for the Jews"

In fact your cult believes that it commands Jesus to give it what it wants

Go and try and become Christian -- at least visit a Lutheran or a Baptist Church or any Christian church rather than remaining in your cult's non-Christian and anti-Christian pit

12 posted on 07/29/2011 12:00:55 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: bibletruth
Let's see what your grace cult teaches:

  1. The Psalms are not meant for Christians -- to pray or read " Psalms are...not for today's prayer pattern for the church today"

  2. There are two different gospels -- for the Jews and for non-Jews (no clear definition -- if my great-great-great-grandmama was Jewish am I saved by which gospel? " Apostle Paul was the ONLY minister to the Gentiles"

  3. Jesus Christ is not God -- that's only the Father and the holy Spirit "Christ Jesus and God the Holy Spirit, who penned these verses."

  4. Lucifer and Jesus are one

  5. Christ was a "she"?

  6. The Bible must be divided

    Predestination is the doctrine of Beelzebub

  7. Lessons on reading the Mind of Christ

Can you spell C U L T?

13 posted on 07/29/2011 12:17:52 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: bibletruth
In fact, it's not a personal attack on you -- just pointing out that your cult is a minuscule social group, but still a cult as it rejects the Bible in nearly its entirety except for what it wants and interprets of the Pauline Epistles.

And why not go back to read your posts to see how many times you have referred to others as cults (which is like the pot calling the dove black)

14 posted on 07/29/2011 12:20:08 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: bibletruth
or let's go back to your thread Satan's devices which states that
The following is a list of some of the many so-called “Christian” CULTS that have arisen since 1600, and in peculiar a connection that America has the majority of them
DATE LOCATION CULT NAME FOUNDER

1832 U.S.A. CAMPBELLISM Alexander Campbell
{Church of Christ}

There is so much corruption within the so-called “Fundamentalist” and “Evangelical” movements today that it is practically impossible to find a church that will simply stand for and upon the Holy word of God; or that will contend for the faith that was once delivered to the saints; or that will preach and teach the Holy words of God – in season and out of season!

A list of Satan’s “devices” employed by some of these churches is presented in, what I believe to be, their order of importance.
• PENTACOSTALISM {Past & Present - Originated in the U.S.A.}
So, to repeat your post back to you, "it is evident from you insulting manner of always labeling everyone except your kind as cults "
15 posted on 07/29/2011 12:25:51 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: Cronos

I read some of this declarations at least that’s what I would call them. How Christ and Paul are different by these people is amazing. Just such discourse over nonsense.


16 posted on 07/29/2011 6:15:45 AM PDT by johngrace
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