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For Gay Christian Musicians, Work Balances Faith, Art, Love
NPR ^ | July 31, 2011 | David Person

Posted on 08/01/2011 9:03:54 AM PDT by Bed_Zeppelin

Many Christian denominations denounce homosexuality as a sin. As a result, gay Christian singers, songwriters and musicians face a challenge in balancing their art, their sexuality and their faith. For those few who have decided to come out, it has meant giving up successful careers.

Singer-songwriter Jennifer Knapp has sold more than a million albums and earned Dove Awards on the strength of songs like her 1998 hit, "Undo Me." But in 2002, at the height of her career as a contemporary Christian artist, Knapp suddenly stopped making music.

"Knowing that I was going to have to publicly deal with my sexuality — it really made me consider how much I wanted to participate in music," Knapp says.

Seven years later, Knapp reemerged, no longer self-identified as a Christian artist — instead, she was a folk-rock musician, a person of faith and a lesbian. Knapp says that even after all that time, she still had doubts about coming forward.

"It made me very hesitant to get back up into the public level, knowing that there would be discussion about my sexuality on the whole," she says.

Don't Ask, Don't Tell

Dr. Teresa Hairston, publisher of Gospel Today magazine, says there are clear expectations regarding sexuality in the Christian church and in the Christian music industry.

"There is an assumption that as a minister of the gospel — and your expression of that ministry being in song — that you are an ambassador that carries with the gifting of the music a lifestyle that agrees with the Bible," Hairston says.

Yvette Flunder was an ambassador of the faith as the lead singer for the legendary gospel group The Hawkins Family. She was also a minister at the Love Center Church in Oakland, Calif., founded by group leader Walter Hawkins.

"At Love Center, we sort of practiced a 'don't ask, don't tell' environment," Flunder says. "Same-gender-loving people did exist in significant numbers, and do exist in significant numbers, but the determination was that it was problematic to be open about it. There were people in the ministry who were not able to reconcile same-gender sexuality and spirituality — particularly Christian spirituality."

Flunder eventually left Love Center to found The City of Refuge Church in San Francisco. After she came out, she discovered that religious groups aren't the only ones uncomfortable with openly gay Christian artists.

"It became clear to the record label that my theology was a potential liability ... not because I was unique as a same-gender-loving person singing gospel music, but because I was clear about my sexuality and clear about my theological position regarding human sexuality," Flunder says. That tension eventually led to the end of her record deal with a major Christian label.

From Freedom To Disappointment

Flunder's experience isn't unusual. Another artist, Tim Dillinger, was known around Nashville as a go-to backup singer for gospel and secular recordings. Eventually, Dillinger began to get airplay for his own songs, such as "That's the Kind of Love." But one day, all that changed.

"Somewhere around the end of 2006, I came out on a gospel radio station in Kansas City," Dillinger says. "I did an interview there with a minister, Gerald Palmer, and it was the first time I'd said it publicly. It was the first time I'd talked about it in any kind of public forum, let alone on a gospel station."

Dillinger says coming out went from being a freeing experience to a devastating one.

"My audience in Nashville, where I was doing my concerts, literally cut in three-quarters," Dillinger says. "I used to say it cut in half, but it was really three-quarters. I went from being able to fill a room to begging people to come again."

Teresa Hairston of Gospel Today says cases like Dillinger's are an unfortunate reality.

"I think people should be able to be open about their choices," Hairston says. "They should be loved despite their choices. But they also have to realize that they have to be accountable for their choices, and that their choices have consequences."

For artists like Jennifer Knapp, those choices meant giving up a career as a gospel artist and coming back as a secular artist. For others, it has meant the end of their careers.

"A lot of people disappear. They have big careers, and then they disappear," Dillinger says. "It's almost like they do the music for the season that they can, and then they move on and take care of their personal lives. And it's just kind of a shame to me that this is what this community really forces people to do, because we are not willing to have an honest conversation about sexuality and really, really talk about why we believe what we believe."

Looking Forward

For her part, Flunder says she's not discouraged by these challenges. In fact, she adamantly expresses optimism about what the future holds for gay Christian musicians.

"The time will come," she says, "when the church will celebrate its gay children and the incredible contributions that same-gender-loving people have made to the life, to the income, to the spirit, to the power, to the passion of the church."


TOPICS: Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: culture; current; moral; politics
"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." 1 Cor 6:9-11

"For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due." Rom 1:26-27

1 posted on 08/01/2011 9:03:59 AM PDT by Bed_Zeppelin
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To: Bed_Zeppelin

Divide and Conquer: The time-honored way to overcome opposition.


2 posted on 08/01/2011 9:06:09 AM PDT by Tax Government (Democrat: "I'm driving to Socialism at 95 mph." Republican: "Observe the speed limit.")
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To: Bed_Zeppelin

“gay Christians”? An oxymoron if I’ve ever seen one!

And whoever coined this phrase is just a “regularmoron”.


3 posted on 08/01/2011 9:08:04 AM PDT by Joann37
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To: Bed_Zeppelin

The headline is an oxymoron. 1 Cor. 6:9-10.


4 posted on 08/01/2011 9:09:39 AM PDT by lurk
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To: Bed_Zeppelin
"Many Christian denominations denounce homosexuality as a sin."

Um, God is the One who says that it is a sin - it's not like we made it up........

5 posted on 08/01/2011 9:10:39 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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6 posted on 08/01/2011 9:11:13 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: Tax Government

There are plenty of Christian churches that have no problem with this. The gays can simply worship there.

NPR might want to look in to the problems that gay Muslims have. The penalties for an unfortunate Muslim are - shall we say - a bit more severe.


7 posted on 08/01/2011 9:11:12 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Bed_Zeppelin
We are all sinners, but why doesn't the media ever talk about "Adulterous Christians" or "Bank-robbing Christians?" Because they know that those sins are incompatible with Christianity - yet they insist on forcing the narrative that practicing homosexuality can somehow be compatible within a true Christian Church.

Its also interesting to note in this article that all of the people profiled in the article gave up on Christianity to focus on the practice of their sin.

8 posted on 08/01/2011 9:13:19 AM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: Da Coyote

“NPR might want to look in to the problems that gay Muslims have. The penalties for an unfortunate Muslim are - shall we say - a bit more severe.”

You must mean a traditional gay relationship between two muslim men and not the buggering of little boys.


9 posted on 08/01/2011 9:14:04 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Bed_Zeppelin
After she came out, she discovered that religious groups aren't the only ones uncomfortable with openly gay Christian artists.

Nice collection of propaganda phrases.

"came out" == Openly admitted a lifestyle of unrepented sexual perversion.

"uncomfortable with" == disapprove of. Notice that the propaganda phrase loads the disapprover, not the disapprovee, with the onus of being 'out of step', but also reduces his objection to a mere irrational feeling.

10 posted on 08/01/2011 9:17:20 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Bed_Zeppelin

Well I guess technically you could be Gay and Christian, if you were a person who is only attracted to the same sex and not the opposite one, but also realizes it is a sin to act on that attraction, so decide to live a celibate life. But somehow, I doubt that’s what this story is talking about...


11 posted on 08/01/2011 9:18:25 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Bed_Zeppelin
...Flunder says. "Same-gender-loving people did exist in significant numbers...

Same-gender-loving people?!!!

Ha ha ha ha!

Is that the new leftist template phrase?

12 posted on 08/01/2011 9:19:07 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Bed_Zeppelin

Gay Christian is an oxymoron! There is no such animal as a Gay Chirstian.


13 posted on 08/01/2011 9:19:10 AM PDT by TheGunny
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To: Bed_Zeppelin

The Bible says clearly when a person opens the door to Jesus, they are a new person. (2 Corinthians 5:17) Christianity is turning from self to Jesus. That means you give up your sin and Jesus becomes your all. There may be a time of NO struggling with sin because the change is sudden or there may be intense struggling because the person is seeing the devil trying to keep the person in his corner. As a person dies to his/her sin nature, they become more and more like Jesus. Not easy but possible.

I am tired of homosexuals and lesbians saying that it is all right to be gay and Christian. Sorry, that is like a man saying it is all right to be an adulterer and Christian.


14 posted on 08/01/2011 9:19:55 AM PDT by Buddygirl
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To: Joann37

Note that there are no group of Christians that are ever referred to as Adulterating Christians. You know, they are Christians, yet they believe God made them to have extramarital affairs. Or Beastiality Christians. Or Pedophiliac Christians. Or Alcoholic Christians (the ones who never go up for communion).

These people are not kidding themselves and asking others to kid themselves about what they are doing. They are not asking for total acceptance and pats on the back, because they are not lost so far as to have a non-working conscience that demands others tell them up is down and what sin they are doing is actually a good thing and God made them that way. (It’s God’s fault if anyone’s to blame you know. But since it’s a good thing, YOU’RE the one with the problem because you can’t see that it’s a God-blessed design of His.)


15 posted on 08/01/2011 9:25:00 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Bed_Zeppelin
I liked many of Jennifer Knapp's songs......

Hated it...when I heard she announced that she was a lesbian.

16 posted on 08/01/2011 9:26:28 AM PDT by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: apillar
Nothing more than wanting to have their cake and eat it too. Gay marriage is the same thing.

"I'm completely normal, just like everyone else. Except that I engage in practices that are outside the norm, and go completely against everything that I claim to believe in."

I feel a little sorry for these people. Imagine the mental gymnastics that they need to engage in, just to get out of bed in the morning.

And, for what it's worth, I agree with you on your point. *Who* you're attracted to is one thing (I'm no expert, but I figure that it's a combination of learned behavior and/or a chemical imbalance of some sort). However, the *actual act* is nothing more than a simple behavior.

17 posted on 08/01/2011 9:26:43 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Da Coyote

I would argue that they are *not* “Christian” churches. Once you throw the Bible out you have no claim to the name.


18 posted on 08/01/2011 9:38:52 AM PDT by sigzero
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To: Bed_Zeppelin

I know and have known a few gay Christian musicians, including some nationally and internationally known musicians. They tend to prefer working out of NYC rather than Nashville for obvious reasons.

As these guys have told me, Some of the regular hymnal compositions used every Sunday in the US were written by gay men who never came out of the closet.

It’s the gay musicians working the Christian bar/cafe scene that get judged by the plastic people who attend those singsong services at churches using electric guitars on Sunday mornings.

Lest ye be judged.


19 posted on 08/01/2011 9:46:19 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Bed_Zeppelin
I agree.

The term "gay Christian" is an oxymoron and there is no such thing as a christian who is homosexual. You're either one or the other, not both. Homosexuals who openly or privately practice their sexual preference are in a state of sin.

20 posted on 08/01/2011 9:46:38 AM PDT by ducttape45
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To: Bed_Zeppelin
I get so tired of seeing/hearing these people referred to as 'Gay'.

There is absolutely nothing 'Gay' about a lifestyle rife in alcoholism, drug usage, the high incidence of domestic violence and STDs.

They are 'Homosexuals' ... period. They prefer the term 'Gay' only because it softens their image in the eyes of the culture.

21 posted on 08/01/2011 9:49:24 AM PDT by CIBvet (So how's all this FAST TRACKED - FREE TRADE workin' out for you so far, Comrade Job-Seekers ?)
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To: Bed_Zeppelin

“Gay Christian Musicians”

Well alrighty then. This is like a story about conservative liberals or coach potato marathon runners.


22 posted on 08/01/2011 9:49:58 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: Bed_Zeppelin

Defund NPR and let it find a market on its own.

Why I have to underwrite this is ridiculous. Moreover, if we are cutting, and CANNOT CUT NPR, then what can we cut?


23 posted on 08/01/2011 9:54:02 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Note that there are no group of Christians that are ever referred to as Adulterating Christians. You know, they are Christians, yet they believe God made them to have extramarital affairs. Or Beastiality Christians. Or Pedophiliac Christians. Or Alcoholic Christians (the ones who never go up for communion).

Not yet. But wait.

24 posted on 08/01/2011 9:54:02 AM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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To: TheGunny

“Gay Christian is an oxymoron! There is no such animal as a Gay Chirstian.”

Sure there are, just like there are adulterous Christians, lying Christians, Obese Christians, smoking Christians, Drunk Christians, Murderous Christians and so on and so forth. The thing is, that it is a Homo stuff is a sin.

A Gay Christian would be convicted of that and not try to justify it, I would think. But he still could be one.


25 posted on 08/01/2011 10:05:36 AM PDT by bluecollarman (searching .......)
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To: Osage Orange

“I liked many of Jennifer Knapp’s songs......

Hated it...when I heard she announced that she was a lesbian.”

Ray Boltz is too. I used sing to do a lot of his songs at church. Now he is now hitting for the other team. I guess the Anchor did not hold to well for Ray.


26 posted on 08/01/2011 10:10:01 AM PDT by bluecollarman (searching .......)
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To: JerseyHighlander

“As these guys have told me, Some of the regular hymnal compositions used every Sunday in the US were written by gay men who never came out of the closet.”

That’s a damn lie - and you are a fool for believing.

Fag would have you believe George Washington was a homo - if your gullible enough!


27 posted on 08/01/2011 10:13:56 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Bed_Zeppelin

There is no such thing as a “gay Christian musician”.


28 posted on 08/01/2011 10:17:48 AM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: bluecollarman

Ray Boltz had a great song at one time...”What Was I Supposed to Be?” Should have been the anthem for Pro-Life.

I feel sorry for these people. They will be some of the ones who say, “Lord, Lord...I did this in Your name and that in Your name.” And He will say, “Depart from me ye accursed. I never knew you.”

Scary.


29 posted on 08/01/2011 10:17:57 AM PDT by americanMel ("But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come." 2 Tim 3:1)
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To: Osage Orange

songs like her 1998 hit, “Undo Me”?

And her 2008 followup, “Do Me”?


30 posted on 08/01/2011 10:19:43 AM PDT by flowerplough (Pelosi on Republicans: "They want to destroy food safety, clean air, clean water, ...")
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To: Bed_Zeppelin

I love Romans. If you could only have one book of the Bible, sufficient for everything, it would be Romans.


31 posted on 08/01/2011 10:22:54 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: Osage Orange

I don’t see how the knowledge of the sexual proclivity of a person that writes/performs a song, can actually change the appeal of a song? It’s the exact same song as before you knew her sexual preference, isn’t it?


32 posted on 08/01/2011 10:35:51 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Osage Orange

Like when Amy Grant left her husband and family for another man.

She was a huge star.

She basically lost her career for that adultery (as it appeared).

I do not know the circumstances of her leaving her husband/kids but I have heard no defense from her except that she fell in love with another man, so, I leave it at that.

Homosexuality isn’t the only sexual sin that can ruin a “Christian” career.


33 posted on 08/01/2011 10:44:52 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: JerseyHighlander

“It’s the gay musicians working the Christian bar/cafe scene that get judged by the plastic people who attend those singsong services at churches using electric guitars on Sunday mornings.

Lest ye be judged.”

Jersey Highlander, are you suggesting that because we believe and accept God’s word on this matter, or any other matter, we are plastic and judgemental?

Shall we have the local unrepentant abortionist take communion? The man with the live-in girlfriend? The fence for the local stolen cars? Shall I sing God’s praises as written by the local pimp? Lest I be considered “judgemental?”

I am not suggesting that any of the above can’t repent and know the Lord -

but like you and I they must REPENT, not continue blithely in their sins of choice.

2nd John 9-11

“Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him; for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.”


34 posted on 08/01/2011 10:55:00 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: PGR88

but why doesn’t the media ever talk about “Adulterous Christians” or “Bank-robbing Christians?

I disagree. The media has been talking about a certain “Christian terrorist” lately.


35 posted on 08/01/2011 11:07:31 AM PDT by Augustinian monk
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To: stuartcr
Never meant to imply I still don't like her songs.......

What I meant to say...is I used to listen to her songs back when she was popular.

That make sense?

36 posted on 08/01/2011 11:42:02 AM PDT by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: Bed_Zeppelin
>> "The time will come," she says, "when the church will celebrate its gay children and the incredible contributions that same-gender-loving people have made to the life, to the income, to the spirit, to the power, to the passion of the church."<<

And it will be after the rapture and the establishment of the one world religion. She won’t like the ultimate end of that scenario.

37 posted on 08/01/2011 11:43:29 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Da Coyote

“There are plenty of Christian churches that have no problem with this. The gays can simply worship there.”

####

There are plenty of “Christian” churches, replete with gift shops and entertainment-first Vegas show worship services, that don’t have a problem with pretty much ANYTHING, as long as it means new tithing members.


38 posted on 08/01/2011 11:46:56 AM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: Osage Orange
"Undo Me" kicked so much ass!

Jen would have destroyed ANYTHING on the radio during that timeframe!

39 posted on 08/01/2011 12:00:48 PM PDT by Cheapskate (Play loud and carry BIG sticks!)
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To: Osage Orange

yeah


40 posted on 08/01/2011 12:33:34 PM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: TheGunny

Is there such thing as a sinning sinner Christian?


41 posted on 08/01/2011 12:43:47 PM PDT by Wallop the Cat
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To: Cheapskate
She has great talent...

No doubt about it...

42 posted on 08/01/2011 1:04:08 PM PDT by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: Bed_Zeppelin
>>> Singer-songwriter Jennifer Knapp has sold more than a million albums and earned Dove Awards

Lovely lady


43 posted on 08/02/2011 1:08:15 AM PDT by tlb
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To: Osage Orange

I’m a drummer, and I would have played behind her anytime,anyplace ,anywhere!


44 posted on 08/02/2011 5:00:31 AM PDT by Cheapskate (Play loud and carry BIG sticks!)
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To: PGR88
‘Promoting’ their sin adds to their sin....it grows and then affects others who then affect others. etc. etc. etc.

They want a license for this behavior.....the same for all other ‘unnatural’ behavior....they all want to practice this openly and worse promote it....and society will and does tolerate this on a whole. So there will be a day of reckoning coming....we can be certain of that.

45 posted on 08/02/2011 5:07:53 AM PDT by caww
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To: Bed_Zeppelin
Same-gender-loving people

What? All Christians are "same-gender-loving" people. But it is agape or philio (not sure of spelling) love rather than eros love.

From God's perspective Eros is reserved for one man and one woman for life. If you cannot abide by that design, then stick with the agape or philio love.

46 posted on 08/02/2011 7:11:29 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: JerseyHighlander
Some of the regular hymnal compositions used every Sunday in the US were written by gay men who never came out of the closet.

If they never came out of the closet, how would they know they were 'gay'? The fact is, they don't. They are just trying to make themselves feel 'okay' about giving themselves over freely to sin.

47 posted on 08/02/2011 7:33:21 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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