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Feed Your Friend - Starve Your Enemy? That is NONSENSE!
HubBlogs with GADEL ^ | Saturday, August 6, 2011 | GADEL

Posted on 08/06/2011 5:32:59 AM PDT by GADEL

If you are left in an island with a piece of bread and two people all starving to death, your friend before you and your enemy behind you, who would you feed?


Would you pick and choose your friend who has been so good to you or would you pick your enemy who has consistently attempted but failed in killing you? Well, anyone who would choose friend over enemy is both emotionally and spiritually immature as I'll attempt to demonstrate.

I know many would chant, "Feed your friends - starve your enemies!" That is not just NONSENSE but diabolical at best.  Feed your enemies first for that is the LAW (of love) and the (way of) CHRIST! It is quite true that we are humans and as humans, we are emotional beings. It is also a fact that we are both rational and spiritual beings too.  By our emotional and rational natures, it makes sense to feed our friend as Saint Thomas Aquinas and Aristotle point out respectively:


"There is nothing on this earth more to be prized than true friendship."

"Without friends no one would choose to live, though he had all other goods."


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Will you give the piece of bread to your enemy instead of your friend?
1 posted on 08/06/2011 5:33:04 AM PDT by GADEL
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To: GADEL

Will you post your full content instead of excerpting?


2 posted on 08/06/2011 5:37:51 AM PDT by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: GADEL

I know nothing in Scripture or in Christian tradition that tells us to feed our enemy FIRST.

I give the piece of bread to my friend, and tell him that it will give him strength to help defeat our now dying enemy who should soon be fainting from hunger.


3 posted on 08/06/2011 5:38:34 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: GADEL
Will you give the piece of bread to your enemy instead of your friend?

Nope - not if it's one or the other. Don't pervert what Jesus said - it's good to forgive and treat your enemies good, but Biblically it is also described as pouring hot coals on their heads because it shows them how bad they are and how good you are in comparison - I fail to find where any Bible teaching tells us to starve ourselves or our friends so that our enemies might persist.

4 posted on 08/06/2011 5:41:29 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: GADEL

If one is truly my friend, and one is without question my enemy, I will of course give the food to my friend. When I have grown too weak to fight from starvation, my friend will be alone facing a threat to his existence.

If I fail to feed my friend but aid my enemy, I will have endangered my friend by weakening him and strengthening the enemy. If I feed my friend and starve my enemy, I will have left my friend better able to defend himself and his life against a weaker threat.

To do otherwise is would prove I was never a friend in the first place. I will not betray one who has given me his trust.


5 posted on 08/06/2011 5:51:42 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: Dr. Sivana; GADEL
I know nothing in Scripture or in Christian tradition that tells us to feed our enemy FIRST.

Absolutely correct. One can imagine who Elijah would give a piece of bread to if he had to choose between Jezebel and one of the prophets of God.

The early church really looked after their own-not society at large. The church grew simply because unbelievers noticed Christians took care of one another. And those invited to fellowship could be part of this. This is the way it continues today with our Christian brothers and sisters who live in oppressed societies. It's those of us who live with plenty who fail to miss this principle.

6 posted on 08/06/2011 5:52:18 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: trebb

Blog Hog,
Wrong again. It is your friend’s decision, in Christ, to give his bread, received at your hand, to your enemy. THAT is an act of Christian charity.
It is your duty, in Christ, to sacrifice your well being for your friend. If you feed your enemy and allow your friend to starve you curse your enemy, your friend, yourself and you slander Christ.


7 posted on 08/06/2011 5:53:24 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This IS my blog site.)
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To: GADEL

Feed your enemy and starve your friend? You’ll quickly teach your friend that it doesn’t pay to be your friend and in short order you will have two enemies. Big DUH!


8 posted on 08/06/2011 5:54:22 AM PDT by BufordP ("Drink me if you can't take a joke." -- Kool-aid)
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To: GADEL

Okay, or feed your enemy and starve your friend. Then your enemy kills you. So two people die instead of one. As Spock would say.....


9 posted on 08/06/2011 5:55:21 AM PDT by IamCenny
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To: GADEL

False argument all round. Neither the Bible nor Aquinas nor GKC ever suggested that we feed our enemy at the expense of feeding a friend. Extending that logic would mean depriving family for the benefit of others. But it gets worse. Whether out of love or sheer stupidity we feed our enemies first, it’s not just appeasement, it’s empowering the enemy. Feed the enemy if and only if you’ve imprisoned him.


10 posted on 08/06/2011 5:59:04 AM PDT by Mach9
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To: GADEL
How selfish...Feed your Friend and give your portion to your enemy.

This is nothing more than selectively using scripture to justify redistribution.

Peace be with you.


11 posted on 08/06/2011 6:06:19 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: GADEL

12 posted on 08/06/2011 6:09:19 AM PDT by frankenMonkey (Because he was the son you bore, And gave to that wind blowing and that tide!)
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To: GADEL

So we should pay 100% tax to Obama, and let our families starve?


13 posted on 08/06/2011 6:19:47 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: GADEL

Will you give the piece of bread to your enemy instead of your friend?


Jesus says to love your enemy, he simply means that if you come up on some one who is hungry give them something to eat if you can, don,t let them starve just because they may be a dam socialist.

If your enemy is socialism and you choose to feed them instead of your friend then soon we will all be starving.

Of course i am saying this keeping in mind what we now face with the socialist agenda of redistribution of wealth.

If this really had anything to do with our spiritual warfare i would hate to be in a position to have to choose, but i think we will be safe on that point because if the socialist have their way the Christians will not have anything to share with anyone.


14 posted on 08/06/2011 6:43:05 AM PDT by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofs)
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To: darkwing104

This is nothing more than selectively using scripture to justify redistribution.


Right.


15 posted on 08/06/2011 6:45:22 AM PDT by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofs)
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To: GADEL

strengthen your enemy, starve your friend and get yourself killed, really smart....


16 posted on 08/06/2011 7:03:05 AM PDT by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve and neither do I)
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To: GADEL
"Feed your friends - starve your enemies!"

The choices offered are an excellent example of how liberal logic based on false premises results in convoluted conclusions.

The scenario presented stated that both your friend and your enemy were starving. Therefore, whoever you do not feed is not starving because of your decision to feed the other.

17 posted on 08/06/2011 7:24:19 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: humblegunner

I’ll humbly consider that. Thanks a lot.


18 posted on 08/06/2011 8:17:11 AM PDT by GADEL (Since Christ Himself has said, "This is My Body" who shall dare to doubt that It is His Body?)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Well, I respect your views. :)


19 posted on 08/06/2011 8:17:13 AM PDT by GADEL (Since Christ Himself has said, "This is My Body" who shall dare to doubt that It is His Body?)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

Interesting. Thanks a lot for your views.


20 posted on 08/06/2011 8:17:20 AM PDT by GADEL (Since Christ Himself has said, "This is My Body" who shall dare to doubt that It is His Body?)
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To: BufordP

Wow! 2 enemies. . . Quite interesting. But I still hold to the LOVE of ENEMY out of Love for God who is Love.


21 posted on 08/06/2011 8:17:31 AM PDT by GADEL (Don't wait for people to be friendly, show them how.)
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To: IamCenny

Okay. Then I gotta move to JUST WAR? Not yet. . . :)


22 posted on 08/06/2011 8:17:40 AM PDT by GADEL (Don't wait for people to be friendly, show them how.)
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To: Mach9

“False argument all round. Neither the Bible nor Aquinas nor GKC ever suggested that we feed our enemy at the expense of feeding a friend”

Did I stated that Aquinas or Chesterton said that? No.

READ WHAT I WROTE AND READ IT WELL. THANKS:

By our emotional and rational natures, it makes sense to feed our friend as Saint Thomas Aquinas and Aristotle point out respectively:

“There is nothing on this earth more to be prized than true friendship.”

“Without friends no one would choose to live, though he had all other goods.”


23 posted on 08/06/2011 8:17:46 AM PDT by GADEL (Don't wait for people to be friendly, show them how.)
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To: darkwing104

“This is nothing more than selectively using scripture to justify redistribution.

Peace be with you.”

:) Shalom!


24 posted on 08/06/2011 8:17:52 AM PDT by GADEL (Don't wait for people to be friendly, show them how.)
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To: frankenMonkey

Who is this person? I am not USAian (American) but Ghanaian. Thanks.


25 posted on 08/06/2011 8:17:55 AM PDT by GADEL (Don't wait for people to be friendly, show them how.)
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To: rwilson99

“So we should pay 100% tax to Obama, and let our families starve?”

I am A REPUBLICAN (unofficially though)! I won’t support President O!

I wasn’t referring to Your President His Excellency Obama. His thought did not even crept my mind. Thank you.


26 posted on 08/06/2011 8:18:00 AM PDT by GADEL (Don't wait for people to be friendly, show them how.)
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To: ravenwolf

“Jesus says to love your enemy, he simply means that if you come up on some one who is hungry give them something to eat if you can, don,t let them starve just because they may be a dam socialist.”

I might have missed that part of Scripture. Please could you give me the CHAPTER and VERSE and if possible YOUR BIBLE VERSION? Thank you for understanding.

Lot’s of love.
:) G!


27 posted on 08/06/2011 8:18:05 AM PDT by GADEL (Don't wait for people to be friendly, show them how.)
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To: MosesKnows

I don’t remember being LIBERAL. Or do I need to consult the dictionary or Google or both?

Just Kidding. Thanks for your response.

G!


28 posted on 08/06/2011 8:18:08 AM PDT by GADEL (Don't wait for people to be friendly, show them how.)
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To: trebb

This is not about our enemy persisting but the LOVE OF GOD working in us.


29 posted on 08/06/2011 8:18:45 AM PDT by GADEL (Since Christ Himself has said, "This is My Body" who shall dare to doubt that It is His Body?)
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To: Taffini

Ouch! Okay. :)


30 posted on 08/06/2011 8:18:49 AM PDT by GADEL (Don't wait for people to be friendly, show them how.)
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To: GADEL
Well, I respect your views. :)

I hope that doesn't mean I'm your enemy!

I do believe in loving your enemy though (even if I would feed my friend, first). Joan Andrews is a heroic example of someone who loves her enemy in a Christian way, without compromising principles.
31 posted on 08/06/2011 8:43:36 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: GADEL

Wouldn’t the way of Christ to be to lay down your life for fellow man and give both the friend and enemy the last bread and starve yourself?


32 posted on 08/06/2011 8:45:43 AM PDT by carmody
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To: GADEL

Obama had a huge birthday party to celebrate himself. All of Hollywood joined him. How many hungry children could have eaten had they only used all that money for those purposes? Poor Hollywood & Obama. So poor in spirit yet rich in ego. Obama and Hollywood don’t even let the poor eat cake. They keep it all for themselves.


33 posted on 08/06/2011 8:50:05 AM PDT by carmody
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To: GADEL

Would you kill and cook your enemy to feed your friend?


34 posted on 08/06/2011 8:53:10 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: GADEL

Hi Gadel- You have a way of posting that sounds different from what point of the issue is realing being presented. I think. Lol!!!


35 posted on 08/06/2011 9:21:50 AM PDT by johngrace (1 John 4)
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To: GADEL

Hi Gadel- You have a way of posting that sounds different from what point of the issue is realing being presented. I think. Lol!!!


36 posted on 08/06/2011 9:22:12 AM PDT by johngrace (1 John 4)
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To: GADEL

Give half to your friend. Hold up the other half and ask your enemy if he is ready to reconcile with you. If he really and sincerely changes his mind and apologizes and wants to be your friend, give him the other half. If not, go ahead and eat the other half yourself.

You are probably going to all die after the bread is gone, anyway, but you could use these moments in a good way, working to help everyone prepare better to meet their maker.


37 posted on 08/06/2011 9:57:26 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: GADEL

So ...

If an evil man came to steal your daughter’s food ... the result being that she would die and he would live to torment others ... you would be fine with that?

And that position is somehow supposed to be the virtuous one?


38 posted on 08/06/2011 6:25:20 PM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: GADEL

And another question for you:

Do you affirm Just War Theory, that some wars can be just?


39 posted on 08/06/2011 6:26:49 PM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

You can’t be my enemy. No. Otherwise you’ll make me starve cause I gotta give you all my food to fatten you!

Just joking. Have a blessed day.

G!


40 posted on 08/07/2011 3:25:09 AM PDT by GADEL (Don't wait for people to be friendly, show them how.)
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To: carmody

I get you. But note that the Scenario I posed depicts that I am already not in need of food at that moment ant there is only A PIECE OF BREAD available that could satisfy sparingly one person.

Or what do you think?


41 posted on 08/07/2011 3:31:24 AM PDT by GADEL (Don't wait for people to be friendly, show them how.)
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To: carmody

Don’t worry. They can’t have all the cake every time. No. Let’s continue to pray and also put into action what we proclaim. Thank you.

I see starving people almost every day and sometimes I also ‘starve’ kind-of. Africa and starvation to an extent seem synonymous but THERE IS HOPE because of OUR CHRIST JESUS. Amen. Or don’t you think so too?


42 posted on 08/07/2011 3:35:57 AM PDT by GADEL (Don't wait for people to be friendly, show them how.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

“Would you kill and cook your enemy to feed your friend?”

Well, No. Because:

1. Thou SHALT NOT Kill is still a commandment NOT A SUGGESTION.

2. I am Not a cannibal and I don’t friend cannibals.

3. I happen to be a strict vegetarian.

4. I don’t know how to cook. Would you teach me?

G!


43 posted on 08/07/2011 3:40:19 AM PDT by GADEL (Don't wait for people to be friendly, show them how.)
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To: johngrace

Well, John is that a PLUS or a MINUS?

:)

Thanks and God bless.

G!


44 posted on 08/07/2011 3:42:21 AM PDT by GADEL (Don't wait for people to be friendly, show them how.)
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To: married21

That’s an interesting response.

Quite good. :)

G!


45 posted on 08/07/2011 3:58:05 AM PDT by GADEL (Don't wait for people to be friendly, show them how.)
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To: GADEL
1. Thou SHALT NOT Kill is still a commandment NOT A SUGGESTION.

No murder. Agreed.

2. I am Not a cannibal and I don’t friend cannibals.

That's not very liberal. :)

3. I happen to be a strict vegetarian.

Oh dear; does that mean that we are on different places on the food chain? I often use the phrase: vegetation is what food eats. :)

4. I don’t know how to cook. Would you teach me?

Fire. Scorch on both sides, rare in the middle. I do a great leg of lamb with nothing but garlic cloves and kosher salt.

46 posted on 08/07/2011 6:38:18 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: GADEL
1. Thou SHALT NOT Kill is still a commandment NOT A SUGGESTION.

Yet David, a man after God's own heart, killed. I've read in multiple sources that the proper translation is "Thou shalt not murder."

2. I am Not a cannibal and I don’t friend cannibals.

After 20+ years in the military, I learned that you'll eat almost anything when you're hungry enough.

3. I happen to be a strict vegetarian.

Isn't "vegitarian" the Cherokee word for "poor hunter?"

4. I don’t know how to cook. Would you teach me?

The easiest way to go is grilling.

Get the grill going. If you're using charcoal, wait till the briquets turn white. For best results, close the lid. Check in 10 - 15 minute intervals. Flip as necessary. You'll know when it's done. Note; most meat will continue to "cook" 3-5 minutes after you take it off the grill.

You may also grill fish and squash.

47 posted on 08/07/2011 7:33:51 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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