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To: BlueMoose

I see that he didn’t mention ‘ole Joe coming right out of the gate calling all other faiths, apostate, whores of Babylon, corrupt, etc.

Just mentions that this so called “hostility” was about converts.

Deceptive.

On two parts.


22 posted on 08/06/2011 11:50:01 PM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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[Mormon BlueMoose links to Richard Mouw piece about "hostility" between Mormons & Evangelicals going back to 1830s]

I see that he didn’t mention ‘ole Joe coming right out of the gate calling all other faiths, apostate, whores of Babylon, corrupt, etc. Just mentions that this so called “hostility” was about converts. Deceptive. On two parts. [Szonian]

Szonian, I wouldn't say that Mouw was 100% off-base in focusing on "converts" as a key issue; but certainly he wouldn't filter this "converts" issue the way Jesus did. (See Matthew 23:15 below)

Certainly, though, you're right that Mouw is guilty of reductionism...making it only an issue of wrestling for "converts." Indeed, 'ole Joe came right out of the gate calling all other faiths, apostate, whores of Babylon, corrupt, etc. -- and somehow this fails to be recognized by Mormon and MSM alike.

The reason why I think wrestling for "converts" was -- and still is -- a relevant issue is what Jesus said about the pre-Mormons -- the Pharisees:

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are." (Matt. 23:15)

Jesus indeed filtered it as a match-up between His compassionate blood being shed for future Christ-ones vs. legalists who would send over 25,000 new missionaries out o'er land and see to make others 'twice' the 'child of hell' they are.

24 posted on 08/07/2011 1:13:34 AM PDT by Colofornian (Tenses of polygamy: "As fLDS now are, LDS once were. As fLDS now are, LDS may become.")
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