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Fundamentalist sect leader jailed for life for sex with child brides
UK Guardian ^ | Aug. 9, 2011 | Ed Pilkington

Posted on 08/11/2011 5:15:06 AM PDT by Colofornian

Warren Jeffs, the leader of the Fundamentalist Mormon church that practises polygamy, is likely to spend the rest of his life behind bars after he was given the maximum sentence for taking girls as young as 12 to be his brides.

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...a Texas jury took just 40 minutes to hand him the toughest sentence open to them – life in prison for aggravated sexual assault and 20 years in prison for sexual assault of a child...

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The polygamist Mormons, under Jeffs's leadership, refused to renounce plural marriages and now have about 10,000 followers. The jury heard that Jeffs personally had about 78 wives, including 12 who he married at 16 and 12 who he married at 15 or younger.

Jurors were played audio tapes which the prosecution alleged recorded Jeffs giving sexual instructions to several underage wives. One tape was said to have captured the sounds of Jeffs having sex inside the temple at the church's Yearning for Zion Ranch...

The court was also presented with DNA evidence that showed Jeffs fathered a child with a 15-year-old girl.

The jury heard that Jeffs was an overweening presence within his church.

When fathers resisted handing over their daughters, Jeffs would expel them – he ejected 60 church members and broke up 300 families.

As the carrot to the stick, he encouraged fathers to give away their teenage daughters by offering them their own young brides.

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In the course of his defence, Jeffs said polygamy was a "pure, natural way of life" and one of "God's laws". He pointed out that it was a central element of Mormonism in the early days of the church, which was founded by Joseph Smith in New York state in the 1820s.

Smith himself is thought to have had at least 30 wives.

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TOPICS: Current Events; Moral Issues; Other Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: antimormonrant; bigot; bitterformermormon; flds; herewegoagain; inman; mormoaner; religiousbigotry; religioushatred; warrenjeffs; zealot
From the article: The jury heard that Jeffs personally had about 78 wives, including 12 who he married at 16 and 12 who he married at 15 or younger....In the course of his defence, Jeffs said polygamy was a "pure, natural way of life" and one of "God's laws". He pointed out that it was a central element of Mormonism in the early days of the church, which was founded by Joseph Smith in New York state in the 1820s. Smith himself is thought to have had at least 30 wives.

Sick! Absolutely sick!!! Had Smith lived another 17 years like Warren Jeffs, he, too, would have likely had 78 wives!

From the article: When fathers resisted handing over their daughters, Jeffs would expel them – he ejected 60 church members and broke up 300 families. As the carrot to the stick, he encouraged fathers to give away their teenage daughters by offering them their own young brides.

More utter sickness!!!!

1 posted on 08/11/2011 5:15:10 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

‘Life Plus Twenty’

I pity his cellmate on that last twenty.


2 posted on 08/11/2011 5:19:44 AM PDT by chopperman
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To: chopperman

I don’t think he will last that long. One thing prisoners don’t put up with is child molesters.


3 posted on 08/11/2011 5:23:57 AM PDT by native texan (Real Texans don't need the Federal Govt.)
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To: chopperman

I am so glad Texas stood up for children. Now what about the rest if the cult out there on that ranch?


4 posted on 08/11/2011 5:27:40 AM PDT by native texan (Just think, Hell is hotter than this.)
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To: native texan

Great tag line.


5 posted on 08/11/2011 5:29:41 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Colofornian

Polygamy - That’s the rotten ‘fruit’ of Mormonism, right there. I doesn’t fall far from the tree - the root of which (Joseph Smith) is pure evil.

Praise to the Man......indeed!


6 posted on 08/11/2011 5:30:48 AM PDT by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)
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To: native texan

So what happens to all the wives? Are they married until the nut dies in prison? Can they get a divorce in this cult?


7 posted on 08/11/2011 5:30:48 AM PDT by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: RadiationRomeo

So what happens to all the wives? Are they married until the nut dies in prison? Can they get a divorce in this cult?

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There is no ‘divorce’ but there is ‘reassignment’ usually determined by the prophet or husband. Women don’t really have any say.

As long as Jeffs is in charge (which I don’t think will be that long), his wives will remain his wives. However, as soon as someone takes over for Jeffs or Jeffs is killed (they will say martyred), then his wives will be reassigned with the new prophet having first choice then the other upper leaders.

Women are cattle in these groups, little more.

There have been some articles stating that Jeffs will maintain control, but I don’t see for how long, there are too many clamoring for his power. I also would not be surprised if some of his brothers (who want power) arranged for him to be killed in prison just to make the power grab easier.


8 posted on 08/11/2011 5:41:07 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: native texan
An idiot Ron Paul supporter, Robert Morrow is saying the worst thing Rick Perry has ever done is persecuting this "peaceful homeschooling family".

Thanks, Gov. Perry for going after these perverts.

9 posted on 08/11/2011 5:44:23 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: native texan

Nuke the site from orbit. Its the only way to be sure.


10 posted on 08/11/2011 5:45:53 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Make your choice ! There are NO civilians.)
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To: Colofornian
Smith himself is thought to have had at least 30 wives.

Sick! Absolutely sick!!! Had Smith lived another 17 years like Warren Jeffs, he, too, would have likely had 78 wives!

LDS historian Todd Compton documents 33 Joseph Smith wives (in addition to his only legal spouse, Emma).

Fawn Brodie argues that the self-proclaimed prophet had 56 plural wives and presents her evidence in an appendix to her excellent historical biography of Joseph. She strongly intimated there were many more, but refused to reveal any information she had gleaned from confidential Mormon archives whose access was gained by virtue of her relationship with LDS Church President David McKay (her uncle).

Other biographers assert the number exceeds 80 - most in the neighborhood of 84-86 - with some claiming a total as high as 180.

While it is true that Smith was a serial adulterer, there were many more women who asserted they were "sealed" to the man than he was physically capable of servicing. There were also claimants whom historians can prove never met the man. Thus almost all historians agree that the higher marriage totals include a lot of "wishful thinking." Others point out that sleeping with Smith doesn't necessarily mean that they were "married" to him and thus qualified to spend time and all eternity in his celestial harem.

The bottom line is that we will never know the true extend of Joseph's wickedness, but by any standard, it is appalling and disgraceful.

11 posted on 08/11/2011 5:50:32 AM PDT by Zakeet (If it ain't broke, the Wee Wee will fix it until it is)
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To: Colofornian
Fundamentalist sect leader jailed for life for sex with child brides

Ahhh--so a short sentence, then.

12 posted on 08/11/2011 5:51:51 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Colofornian

He can still practice polygamy in prison..........I’m sure he’ll have a bunch of husbands.


13 posted on 08/11/2011 6:05:26 AM PDT by Badabing Badablonde (New to the internet? CLICK HERE)
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14 posted on 08/11/2011 6:48:50 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Zakeet
Joseph Smith was apparently a lot like Mohammad: a false Christ, a false Scripture, "revelations" which were either delusory or deliberate self-aggrandizing fabrications, a formula for grabbing political power, the killing of "deserters" and "apostates", and a whole lot of sexual subjugation, with any female he could get his hands on.

It shouldn't surprise anyone when a religious charlatan like Mohammad or Joseph Smith follows this pattern. But what still surprises me, is that so many people --- men and women ---- become willing followers.

15 posted on 08/11/2011 6:49:28 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Yes, discriminate! - Between right and wrong, truth and error, virtue and evil, Christ and chaos.)
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To: Colofornian

Genesis 2:24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.

Matthew 19:5
and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?

Matthew 19:6
So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.”

Mark 10:8
and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two but one flesh.

Ephesians 5:31
“Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.”

One man and one wife. God ordained from the beginning.


16 posted on 08/11/2011 6:50:11 AM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: Colofornian

I acknowledge that this is not a Christian thought - but he ought to be tortured daily with electrical shocks to his privates for the rest of his life......

But then, God will have a judgment far worse than that for him in the next life......if he doesn’t repent.....


17 posted on 08/11/2011 7:03:03 AM PDT by Arlis (- Virginia loghome/woods-dweller/Jesus lovin'/Bible-totin'/"gun-clinger")
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To: Arlis
Warren, all dolled-up for his date with the guys at Huntsville.

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18 posted on 08/11/2011 7:25:27 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (My God can't be bribed by money or good works or bound by manmade "covenants". Romney's can.)
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To: Colofornian

Not defending this perv, but does the Guardian use the same headline when an “honor killing” occurs?


19 posted on 08/11/2011 7:31:52 AM PDT by Augustinian monk
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To: metmom

Agreed!


20 posted on 08/11/2011 8:41:03 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Colofornian

Ever notice how closely this ‘religion’ resembles Islam?
Both are designed so that men can get all the sex they want- especially from underage girls, keep women under their thumbs and make them third class citizens by keeping them fearful, ignorant and pregnant?


21 posted on 08/11/2011 9:29:44 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Joseph Smith was apparently a lot like Mohammad ...

... which is to be expected because they both took direct orders from the same boss!

22 posted on 08/11/2011 9:51:54 AM PDT by Zakeet (If it ain't broke, the Wee Wee will fix it until it is)
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To: greyfoxx39
Warren, all dolled-up for his date with the guys at Huntsville.

Foxxie ... I'm ashamed of you!!!! You know better than to make a silly comment like that!

As as you can see in the photo, the prophet-stud is still wearing his garmies. The original trap door version no less! And we all know will protect him from all harm! Just like they did for Abel and Joseph and Hyrum!

You need to brush up on your rites, rituals and dogma real bad.

23 posted on 08/11/2011 10:07:41 AM PDT by Zakeet (If it ain't broke, the Wee Wee will fix it until it is)
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To: Zakeet
As as you can see in the photo, the prophet-stud is still wearing his garmies. The original trap door version no less! And we all know will protect him from all harm! Just like they did for Abel and Joseph and Hyrum!

I betcha Warren's new "homies" will find that trapdoor version mighty handy!

24 posted on 08/11/2011 10:21:50 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (My God can't be bribed by money or good works or bound by manmade "covenants". Romney's can.)
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To: Colofornian
He pointed out that it was a central element of Mormonism in the early days of the church, which was founded by Joseph Smith in New York state in the 1820s.

It still IS!

(They just don't PRACTICE it...)

25 posted on 08/11/2011 11:38:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: colorcountry
Praise to the Man......indeed!

 
 
Praise to the Man!
 
 
Praise to the man who communed with Jehovah!
Jesus annointed that Prophet and Seer.
Blessed to open the last dispensation,
Kings shall extol him, and nations revere.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.
 
 

Praise to his mem'ry, he died as a martyr;
Honored and blest be his ever great name!
Long shall his blood, which was shed by assasins,
Plead unto heav'n while the earth lauds his fame.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

 

Great is his glory and endless his priesthood.
Ever and ever the keys he will hold.
Faithful and true he will enter his kingdom,
Crowned in the midst of the prophets of old.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

 

Sacrifice brings forth the blessings of heaven;
Earth must atone for the blood of that man.
Wake up the world for the conflict of justice.
Millions shall know 'Brother Joseph' again.
 
Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with
Gods
, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.


26 posted on 08/11/2011 11:40:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Zakeet
While it is true that Smith was a serial adulterer, there were many more women who asserted they were "sealed" to the man than he was physically capable of servicing.

INDEED!


 
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 132
51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.
55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to brejoice.
 
 

Whatever HAPPENED to Emma???
 
Eliza was a devout Mormon.
At age 38, she became Joseph Smith's 14th plural wife (in addition to Smith's lawful wife, Emma).
 
In 1842, after learning Eliza was pregnant, Emma Smith beat Eliza with a broomstick and
knocked her down a flight of stairs, causing Eliza to miscarry Smith's baby.
 
Wow!!
 
I guess ol' Emma got VAPORIZED by GOD!!!
 
We know that multiply him thing sure didn't work out!                                       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_Joseph_Smith,_Jr.

27 posted on 08/11/2011 11:43:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: metmom
God ordained from the beginning.

 

Polygamy: How it all got Started


 
 
 
Joe: Hey Emma!   Guess what!?
 
Emma: You KNOW I hate these guessing games! What is it, Dear?
 
Joe: I heard a voice, probably the Lord, tell me I must take other wives.
 
Emma: WHAT!?   You ding bat!  Don't you KNOW what our precious BOOK says?   After all; YOU are the one that translated it!
 
Joe: Books; schmooks.   All I know is I've been COMMANDED to take other wives and you are to OBEY ME!!!
 
 
Emma:      "Though shalt NOT commit ADULTERY!!!"
 
 
Joe: Silly Woman!  You KNOW better than to take things out of CONTEXT!!!
 
 
 
 
 

 
...and the rest is HISTORY...
 

 
 
 
 
 
THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI
CHAPTER 2
 
  24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
  25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
  26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
  27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
  28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
  29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
  30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
  31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
  32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.
 

Or even HERE:
 

 1 Timothy 3:2-3
 2.  Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
 3.  not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
 
 
1 Timothy 3:12
   A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.
 
 
 Titus 1:6
   An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.



 
 
Emma: That's IT!   I'm LEAVING your sorry *!!!
 
Joe:  DARN you Emma; you were TOLD to accept this!!   Wait!!!   I hear a voice again!!!
 
 


 
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 132
 
  51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
 
 
  51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
  52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
  53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
  54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.
  55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
  56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to brejoice.


28 posted on 08/11/2011 11:44:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Arlis
I acknowledge that this is not a Christian thought - but he ought to be tortured daily with electrical shocks to his privates for the rest of his life......

Oh???



Galatians 5:12
   As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!
 


29 posted on 08/11/2011 11:46:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: greyfoxx39
I betcha Warren's new "homies" will find that trapdoor version mighty handy!

OOOoooh!

 

 

1 Timothy 4:1-2
1. The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
2. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.
 
1 Timothy 1:3-4
3. As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
4. nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.
 
1 Timothy 6:3-5
3. If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
4. he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions
5. and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

30 posted on 08/11/2011 11:49:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
5. and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

OUCH!!

31 posted on 08/11/2011 11:50:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

You’re a gem.....


32 posted on 08/11/2011 12:15:52 PM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: Zakeet
LDS historian Todd Compton documents 33 Joseph Smith wives (in addition to his only legal spouse, Emma).

Dr. Compton notes the scarcity of records from Ohio and the fact that certain other records are not available for review, even to LDS historians.

Todd Compton recognizes Fanny Alger (1833) as one of Smith's first wives (interestingly enough, FAIR does too, here and here).

The LDS Church does not recognize Fanny Alger as a wife of Joseph Smith.

33 posted on 08/11/2011 12:46:57 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: Elsie

That’s fer real??????


34 posted on 08/11/2011 12:55:41 PM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: metmom
Yes, it is. Here it is being performed by the Mormon Tabernacle Choir.

it is Hymn #27 in the current LDS Church Hymnal, and here's a reference to writing of the hymn from the LDS Website.

In context, understand that the LDS Church recognizes Joseph Smith as a Prophet of God, sent to restore what they believe to be the one true church. An LDS Freeper can restate that better than I wrote it. I often disagree with the LDS Church on its position regarding 'faith-promoting history" but I recognize the right of LDS to believe as they choose to believe.

35 posted on 08/11/2011 1:42:41 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: metmom

zirconium...


36 posted on 08/11/2011 5:25:23 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: metmom

Sure is!

Click on the organ pipes...


37 posted on 08/11/2011 5:26:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Scoutmaster
...I recognize the right of LDS to believe as they choose to believe.

INDEED!

If it were NOT so, the Scientologists would all be overseas somewhere.

38 posted on 08/11/2011 5:28:32 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Scoutmaster
President , prophet, seer, and revelator, holds those priesthood keys today as he leads the Church and serves as the Lord's mouthpiece.
 
From -->  http://josephsmith.net/josephsmith/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=e8b5fe1347df1010VgnVCM1000001f5e340aRCRD
 
 
It's past time to update their website...

39 posted on 08/11/2011 5:33:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

Re: temple garment...how were Mormons protected up until they began getting them in 1842?


40 posted on 08/11/2011 6:39:35 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Thanks, Gov. Perry for going after these perverts.

What Utah hasn't been able to do in over a century of statehood, took less than a decade for Texas to do that.

It's called Mormon ambivalence over polygamy. They straight-arm it; but rarely tackle it. Why? Could it have something to do with their belief that many of their dead "prophets," "apostles," & even twice-married current "general authorities" are or will be considered eternal polygamists.

41 posted on 08/11/2011 6:54:45 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Augustinian monk
Not defending this perv, but does the Guardian use the same headline when an “honor killing” occurs?

Most probably not. It would be "underage", or something like that.

Like you, I am NOT defending this cult leader, but I would be far more impressed if the state could prosecute others for the same crime. It says here that it was proved in court that he fathered a child with a 15 year old, in a polygamist marriage. They are horrified by the Mormonism, not the underage sex.

I guarantee you I could go to many schools in that state, and find some pupil on the rolls who is pregnant at 15 - or less. No charges are laid. Unmarried teenage girls having babies - even at the age of 12 - are well known in our modern Western societies. But they are not involved in polygamist cults. So the law does nothing.

42 posted on 08/11/2011 7:00:49 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil
I guarantee you I could go to many schools in that state, and find some pupil on the rolls who is pregnant at 15 - or less. No charges are laid. Unmarried teenage girls having babies - even at the age of 12 - are well known in our modern Western societies.

It must be something about the ABUSE OF POWER that got ol' Jeffy in trouble - NOT his religion.

43 posted on 08/12/2011 4:51:58 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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