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Two Worlds - Two Cultures
Fr. Ray Blake's Blog ^ | 8/19/11 | Fr. Ray Blake

Posted on 08/19/2011 7:16:09 AM PDT by marshmallow

I am sure this will be happening in Madrid as it did in London.

Richard Dawkins brought at least one laspsed Catholic back to the Church during the Papal visit to the UK. She saw the the anti-Pope snarling mob led by Dawkins and Tatchel, with their plastic devil horns and inflated condoms, sex "toys" and angry faces and she saw the sheer joy of those cheering the Pope and the banners carried by the enthusiastic youth. She said it wasn't about arguments, it was about faces. Dawkins & co. glaring and hopeless, those who were there cheering the Pope full of hope and smiling - anger and joy, hate and love.

For her it was the contrast between two worlds, signified by the Pope and Dawkins, faith and faithlessness, hope and hopelessness, the spiritual and the material, light and darkness.

The same two worlds meet in Madrid, they will meet in Dublin next year in the Eucharistic Congress. There is no room for dialogue, there is no common language, there is only contrast. Ultimately this is an apocalyptic battle between Life and Death.

There are two worlds, two cultures that are irreconcilable. I think that it is very interesting that in Madrid as in London those who are anti manifest their opposition do so under the guise of being against the cost but actually so much of the opposition seems to revolve around sex and sexuality.


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1 posted on 08/19/2011 7:16:15 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Should there be only one culture?


2 posted on 08/19/2011 7:19:01 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: marshmallow
anger and joy, hate and love.

Insanity and sanity.

3 posted on 08/19/2011 7:25:45 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: stuartcr
With regards to language, culinary tastes, dress, architecture and literature?

No.

With regards to the sanctity of human life?

Yes.

4 posted on 08/19/2011 7:26:36 AM PDT by marshmallow (.)
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To: marshmallow

People should all believe the same? Where’s the balance in only having one of something? Suppose someone wants a war, and someone else doesn’t?


5 posted on 08/19/2011 7:30:39 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr
Where’s the balance in only having one of something?

Well there's only one God, and as a result, one truth and one salvation which is eternal.

Is that too unbalanced for you?

6 posted on 08/19/2011 7:35:24 AM PDT by marshmallow (.)
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To: stuartcr

You seem to miss the fact that the left is trying to impose its ¨one culture¨ on the Christians.


7 posted on 08/19/2011 7:40:45 AM PDT by livius
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To: marshmallow

There´s an old saying that all heresy begins below the belt.

And if you´ll look at most heresies, you´ll find that this is true. The Cathari and a host of others had peculiar beliefs about sex (while many of these groups reject marriage, orgies seem to be ok), Luther wanted to get married and finally ended up writing in favor of polygamy, and then we have things like Islam and Mormonism, both of which (as we see in the FLDS trials) had ¨prophets¨ who favored lots of sex with very young girls and wanted their male followers to have the benefit of this.

That said, I wish somebody could post some of the photos from the Spanish press of the gays and leftists attacking priests, teenage visitors and anyone wearing a cross. There´s one particularly ugly one of a 50ish man screaming insults with his mouth right next to the face of a teenage girl, who is crying and has her cross pressed up against her lips.

The ¨demonstrators¨ were in an area that is a major transit crossing (Metro station, bus stops, etc.) and these pilgrims were just there on their way to events or even to the places they were staying and had no idea there was going to be this ugly crowd awaiting them. The City of Madrid tried to stop the ¨anti-Pope¨ groups from gathering there and get them to go to another location, but the Spanish Government (very anti-Catholic) insisted that they be allowed to do this, knowing full well that they intended to attack the pilgrims.

Their faces were so ugly and their deeds were so disgusting, though, that I think there has been a great outpouring of support for the Church, and suddenly many people are coming forward to publicly profess their faith. So God is bringing good out of evil.


8 posted on 08/19/2011 7:52:40 AM PDT by livius
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To: stuartcr
Suppose someone wants a war, and someone else doesn’t?

Then 'someone else' will either fight or die.

And maybe both, but they'll have died on their feet rather than their knees, and the history of their courage will inspire ever more valor.



9 posted on 08/19/2011 7:58:18 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: stuartcr

There is just NO balance, none.

This is about saving the western culture as well as bring it back to its Judeo/Christian heritiage and roots.


10 posted on 08/19/2011 8:15:38 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: livius
There´s one particularly ugly one of a 50ish man screaming insults with his mouth right next to the face of a teenage girl, who is crying and has her cross pressed up against her lips.

Is this the pic?

Here's another "one picture is worth a thousand words" image.


11 posted on 08/19/2011 8:19:16 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: Oratam

Such anger and hatred. It’s disturbing.


12 posted on 08/19/2011 8:24:23 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: livius

Never knew that old saying at all about all heresy begins below the belt. Learn something NEW today.

Also I sense that the socialist Spanish government is letting the anti-Pope protesters protest because I have read I believe on FR that there is a “conservative” political challenger challenging the present socialist PM in upcoming elections and they say that in most likely that the conservative will win. Plus also heard that there is more conservatives in the parliment.

I sense this abuse is going to also bring more young people and people in general into the Church or at least have a new found respect.

The one concern I do have is that those who are so opposed to the Church may use the horrible sex abuse scandals as a “weapon”, if you get my drift.


13 posted on 08/19/2011 8:40:15 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: marshmallow

Good for me, but since God created everyone knowing how and what they would believe and seeing how the world really is and has been, it seems that’s just not the way He intended for it to be.


14 posted on 08/19/2011 8:57:05 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: livius

Yes, that sort of thing has been going on since there were people. That’s why I don’t believe there is a one world/culture possible. It’s just human nature, as God intended.


15 posted on 08/19/2011 9:00:02 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: livius

Could it just be because the people that originally defined heresy, said so?


16 posted on 08/19/2011 9:01:51 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: tomkat

What about the sanctity of life that was mentioned? Doesn’t that show that there is not just one world/culture?


17 posted on 08/19/2011 9:03:26 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr

Except that human nature is not as God intended, because of the Fall.


18 posted on 08/19/2011 9:05:00 AM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: Oratam

Terrible in both cases.

This is not peaceful protesting by those folks opposed to WYD, this is intimatdation. I had a few words to say to those who are doing the trouble making, but this post would be removed.


19 posted on 08/19/2011 9:10:34 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: trisham
Such anger and hatred. It’s disturbing.

Actually, it's demonic. These people are simply revealing the nature of their master, the Father of Lies.

20 posted on 08/19/2011 9:15:36 AM PDT by hellbender
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