Skip to comments.Solemn and Sacred Transformations (A Catholic Wedding)
Posted on 08/21/2011 3:34:58 PM PDT by NYer
I have a question. I have been on a FB page. We have been talking about the old Dick and Jane readers. I was trying to find an old one for someone on that page. I went to a site and it had them for sale but they also had Catholic versions. Can you tell me why?
I can try to answer, even though your question wasn’t addressed to me.
I cannot speak historically since I’m 34, but as a parent I try to purchase catholic readers for my daughter. I like the values they pass along & it avoids my having to filter out secular BS I’d rather not expose her to.
Hope that helps.
A non-baptized person took place in a Catholic wedding?
Lovely. Thank you for posting.
His books were written in 1962 so I doubt if any of that were going on way back in the 40’s and 50’s. I graduated in 1962 and I do not remember anything odd about them. In fact, I ordered 2 of the 50’s books to see if what I remembered was correct. Thanks for your insight, though.
Wondered about that too. My only explanation is that they started the process that way.
With all due respect to Fr. Longenecker, it is hard to understand how an unbaptized bride can participate in a Catholic wedding ceremony.
The Gospel about the wedding guests who wouldn't come, so the Master of the house sent out his servants to collect everyone they saw to come to the wedding, but one man wasn't dressed in wedding clothes, so the Master wouldn't let him in. I think it was because when you put on WEDDING clothes, you know your life is about to be changed...THAT"S why it's important....your actions, the clothes, the solemnity.....YOUR LIFE IS CHANGING and will NEVER BE THE SAME!!!
***Wondered about that too. My only explanation is that they started the process that way.***
Perhaps you’re right. She could have been baptized sometime before the wedding.
Geesh, my husband’s JEWISH and we got married in the Church.
She would probably have agreed to raise any children Catholic. And if they married in the Church then everything that needed to be done was.
Just a guess: he’s not baptized.
My husband wasn’t Catholic when we married either; and our service was held in the Church (minus Communion). When our baptized Catholic daughter married last Fall, her ceremony also took place in the Church, but even though s-i-l isn’t Catholic, we had Communion (which he did not participate in).
Just thought I would share my experiences.
A Catholic can validly marry a non-Christian with a dispensation. See:
Catholics may marry non-Catholics with a dispensation.
Also you know that there's a difference between a nuptial Mass and a Catholic wedding, don't you?
Can. 1059 The marriage of catholics, even if only one party is baptised, is governed not only by divine law but also by canon law, without prejudice to the competence of the civil authority in respect of the merely civil effects of the marriage.
Can. 1086 §1 A marriage is invalid when one of the two persons was baptised in the catholic Church or received into it and has not by a formal act defected from it, and the other was not baptised.
§2 This impediment is not to be dispensed unless the conditions mentioned in cann. 1125 and 1126 have been fulfilled.
Can. 1118 §1 A marriage between catholics, or between a catholic party and a baptised non-catholic, is to be celebrated in the parish church. By permission of the local Ordinary or of the parish priest, it may be celebrated in another church or oratory.
§2 The local Ordinary can allow a marriage to be celebrated in another suitable place.
§3 A marriage between a catholic party and an unbaptised party may be celebrated in a church or in another suitable place.
CHAPTER VI : MIXED MARRIAGES
Can. 1124 Without the express permission of the competent authority, marriage is prohibited between two baptised persons, one of whom was baptised in the catholic Church or received into it after baptism and has not defected from it by a formal act, the other of whom belongs to a Church or ecclesial community not in full communion with the catholic Church.
Can. 1125 The local Ordinary can grant this permission if there is a just and reasonable cause. He is not to grant it unless the following conditions are fulfilled:
1° the catholic party is to declare that he or she is prepared to remove dangers of defecting from the faith, and is to make a sincere promise to do all in his or her power in order that all the children be baptised and brought up in the catholic Church;
2° the other party is to be informed in good time of these promises to be made by the catholic party, so that it is certain that he or she is truly aware of the promise and of the obligation of the catholic party
3° both parties are to be instructed about the purposes and essential properties of marriage, which are not to be excluded by either contractant.
Can. 1126 It is for the Episcopal Conference to prescribe the manner in which these declarations and promises, which are always required, are to be made, and to determine how they are to be established in the external forum, and how the non-catholic party is to be informed of them.
wonderful. This emphasizes that marriage is not a contract but a union with God, woman and man — God is involved. The entire “gay marriage” advocates forget this...
I have known of an unbaptised person later coming to Christ (from athiesm) and then having a renewed wedding ceremony.
the ceremony itself requires that at least one should be baptised.
Thank you both for your explanations of Baptism and the Catholic Church.
The little knowledge I have on this particular subject is because my wife's relative is soon marrying a Japanese agnostic :), so we had the run-around on what can be done or not.
In this modern day and age, of course people from different faiths marry -- I personally have cousins who have been married for decades to those from not only various Christian denominations but also one to a Hindu. In all of these cases, the pre-marital course helped -- it also helped my wife and me and I strongly recommend it even to non-Catholics
It's simple -- just a bunch of questions to the couple so they both know what each wants.
From the catechism: 1635 According to the law in force in the Latin Church, a mixed marriage needs for liceity the express permission of ecclesiastical authority.137 In case of disparity of cult an express dispensation from this impediment is required for the validity of the marriage.138 This permission or dispensation presupposes that both parties know and do not exclude the essential ends and properties of marriage; and furthermore that the Catholic party confirms the obligations, which have been made known to the non-Catholic party, of preserving his or her own faith and ensuring the baptism and education of the children in the Catholic Church.139
My wife was unbaptized when we married (She was received into the church via RCIA and baptized at the same time as our first daughter), there could be no nuptial Mass but there was a wedding ceremony officiated by a priest.
Thanks, Kit .. ;)
What a touching and tenderly beautiful explanation.
Thanks for posting.
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