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Tory MP Calls for Churches to be Banned From Holding Marriages if They Refuse Gay Couples [UK]
Pink News ^ | 9/2/11 | Jessica Geen

Posted on 09/06/2011 6:43:10 AM PDT by marshmallow

Mike Weatherley, the Conservative MP for Hove, has called for churches to be banned from holding marriages if they refuse to perform civil partnerships for gay couples.

He says that the idea will bring more equality for gay couples.

In a letter (see below) to prime minister David Cameron, Mr Weatherley wrote: “As long as religious groups can refuse to preside over ceremonies for same-sex couples there will be inequality.

“Such behaviour is not be tolerated in other areas, such as adoption, after all.

“Until we untangle unions and religion in this country we will struggle to find a fair arrangement.”

Mr Weatherley said that 2005′s Civil Partnership Act was an “uneasy truce” between religious groups and gay rights campaigners and that lawmakers knew an “inherent inequality” would persist.

Hove, which neighbours Brighton, has a large gay community. The area has one of the highest rates of civil partnerships.

Ministers say they plan to move forward legislation to allow civil partnerships in religious buildings.

However, the amendment in the Equality Act stresses that the choice is down to churches. While the Unitarian Church and the Quakers as well as Liberal and Reform Judaism want to hold ceremonies for gay couples, the Catholic Church and Church of England say they will not.

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TOPICS: Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: formerlygreatbritain; gaymarriage; godsavethequeens; homonaziagenda; homonazis; homonazism; homopsychoagenda; homosexualagenda; homotyranny; marriage; mikeweatherley; oncegreatbritain; religiousliberty; religiouspersecution; tories; tyranny; uk
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This from a so called "conservative" politician.
1 posted on 09/06/2011 6:43:13 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

“Gay couples.” LOL! Isn’t that cute?


2 posted on 09/06/2011 6:44:57 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Spreading fear isn't working for the 'RATS anymore so they've resorted to using threats.)
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To: marshmallow

Great Britain is no more. Now, it’s Mediocre Britain.


3 posted on 09/06/2011 6:46:09 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: marshmallow

This has always been the goal for the gay activists. If anyone has any questions as to why gay marriage is so important to gays?

This is your answer. Destroying religion has always been top priority.


4 posted on 09/06/2011 6:46:51 AM PDT by dforest
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To: marshmallow

If the queen doesn’t step in and reinstitute an absolute monarchy......Britain is done.


5 posted on 09/06/2011 6:47:59 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: marshmallow

What exactly are the Tories committed to “conserving”? Evidently the MP for Howe thinks it’s nothing other than their seats in Parliament. Maybe it’s not just Scotland that needs a new center-right party.


6 posted on 09/06/2011 6:49:02 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Salvavida

That’s one queen they won’t take orders from.


7 posted on 09/06/2011 6:50:22 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: EnglishCon; agere_contra; Vanders9

And here I thought Brighton was the gay capital and Hove was sleepy!


8 posted on 09/06/2011 6:50:50 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: marshmallow

And now we see the advantage of the separation of church and state. I guess this means the muzzies will be exempt.


9 posted on 09/06/2011 6:56:59 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: marshmallow
“Until we untangle unions and religion in this country we will struggle to find a fair arrangement.”

Unfair arrangement for the churches. They lose their right to practice what they believe.
IF the poop ever hits the fan, the homos will be the first to go. Forcing people to think and act contrary to their conscience creates hate.

10 posted on 09/06/2011 6:58:20 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: marshmallow

Tory MP weeps over discovery that his Brazilian wife is £70-a-time suburban prostitute

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1309280/Tory-MP-Mike-Weatherley-discovers-wife-Carla-70-time-prostitute.html#ixzz1XBGNP6nj


11 posted on 09/06/2011 7:00:01 AM PDT by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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To: marshmallow
Such behaviour is not be tolerated in other areas, such as adoption, after all.

Oh, of course not! It's not as if Great Britain would, say, forbid a Catholic to ascend the throne of England, or anything...

It's rather quaint that GB still uses the word "conservative" to refer to confused, moral-compass-deprived individuals such as these.
12 posted on 09/06/2011 7:00:29 AM PDT by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: Salvavida

Which Queen, Sounds like there are thousands of them, and they appear to have the upper hand.

This BS will only drive Church’s underground like in the Roman days after they crucified Christ.People will get married in a secret ceremony.


13 posted on 09/06/2011 7:00:44 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: marshmallow

The homos here in the U.S. will not rest until there is a law prohibiting churches from “discriminating” against homos.


14 posted on 09/06/2011 7:02:44 AM PDT by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: marshmallow
it there separation of church and state in England?....apparently not....

I guess its back to the back rooms and catacombs.

15 posted on 09/06/2011 7:03:37 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Cronos

One tory MP who represents just about the gayest constituency in England covering his own arse and electorate. . . . .

Why are Freepers always so desperate to tar all of England with the Brush of just one idiot? Maybe us Brits should start judging America purely by the actions of Obama and see if it’s similarly helpful?


16 posted on 09/06/2011 7:10:31 AM PDT by Caulkhead
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To: MSF BU

Ouch!


17 posted on 09/06/2011 7:19:56 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: marshmallow

Mr Weatherley used the word “religious groups.” Which means mosques, too. Let the fun begin. Actually I am not sure that Muslims marry in the mosque, but an imam does perform the ceremony.


18 posted on 09/06/2011 7:25:30 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: Caulkhead
Why are Freepers always so desperate to tar all of England with the Brush of just one idiot?

Good point. Please don't judge us because of Oboma. It was just a fluke.

19 posted on 09/06/2011 7:26:50 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: marshmallow

Let me get this right. The government licenses marriage, which can take place anywhere.

The church, once a marriage certificate is issued, holds a worship ceremony for the couple (a religious ceremony..blessing the couples union).

The government now says that the church “must” allow a religious blessing ceremony for a homosexual or lesbian partnership, or they cannot hold any weddings.

So the government is dictating beliefs to the church. Of course this is Great Britain where the head of the church is the queen.


20 posted on 09/06/2011 7:31:16 AM PDT by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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To: marshmallow
They can "plan to move forward legislation to allow gay marriage in religious institutions" as much as they like. They cannot force a church to marry two people if they don't feel it is appropriate.

Personally if my Baptist Church agreed to "marry" two men, or indeed two women, I would walk out.

21 posted on 09/06/2011 7:36:22 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Caulkhead

oh, I’m not tarring all of Blighty. I lived close to Seven Dials for some time and well, it is a nice place to live — great part places near Churchill Square! But this tory mp is nutz!


22 posted on 09/06/2011 7:39:01 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Vanders9
They cannot force a church to marry two people if they don't feel it is appropriate.

Churches unite people in HOLY matrimony. Homosexuality isn't HOLY. It's an abomination. It goes against the God of nature and natures God.
It's impossible to unite homosexuals in HOLY matrimony. All they can get is a sheet of paper.

23 posted on 09/06/2011 7:43:01 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics

The Muslims will take care of the homosexuals. Whatever happened to tolerance? Remember the call to be tolerant of alternative lifestyles?


24 posted on 09/06/2011 7:43:21 AM PDT by Vehmgericht
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To: concerned about politics
Good point. Please don't judge us because of Oboma. It was just a fluke.

Millions of idiots voted for that fluke.

25 posted on 09/06/2011 7:46:37 AM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: marshmallow

Remember when Britain was Great?


26 posted on 09/06/2011 7:46:55 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: cherry

No - our head of state is also head of the church.


27 posted on 09/06/2011 7:47:31 AM PDT by EnglishCon
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To: BykrBayb; Salvavida

My word, an American Freeper advocating absolutist monarchy!


28 posted on 09/06/2011 7:50:19 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: marshmallow

This is exactly what we will have here if all the lilly-livertarians get their wish of “civil unions” for all.


29 posted on 09/06/2011 8:00:30 AM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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To: Sans-Culotte
If you think that a little thing like "separation of church and state" (or indeed any constitutional absolute) is going to stop the gay lobby, I would suggest you need to reappraise the enemy. Oh, they'll use that as a stick to beat us with, limit our freedom, cirumvent our influence, but if it gets in their way they'll easily and conveniently forget about it.

In other words American, don't think that's going to save you. The constitution is not much use without the political and moral will to uphold it.

30 posted on 09/06/2011 8:01:34 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: cherry
On the contrary, Britain is one of the few countries in the Western world that still has a State religion.

It shouldn't have. But it does.

31 posted on 09/06/2011 8:04:02 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: concerned about politics

That is indeed my current understanding.


32 posted on 09/06/2011 8:05:30 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Travis McGee
It still is. "Great" is short for "Greater", as in "Big".

In other words, it's a geographical term, not a political assertion.

33 posted on 09/06/2011 8:07:56 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: indylindy
This is your answer. Destroying religion has always been top priority.

Exactly. And some of the densest still can't seem to get it.

The pink mafia really doesn't care if destruction comes in the form of direct legal confrontation at the behest of their fascist puppets and lap dogs in the government or by emptying your pews as they've successfully done with the ELCA and other denomination who've taken their bait.

34 posted on 09/06/2011 8:11:01 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

Some of those dense folks are on our side of the aisle.

They got their way in setting up the destruction of our military, it is becoming less and less moral with the repeal of DADT.

Now it is the churches. Best way to clear the pews on Sunday is force the gay agenda from the pulpit.


35 posted on 09/06/2011 8:23:46 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Vanders9

Oh, brother.


36 posted on 09/06/2011 8:25:13 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: marshmallow

I did not know this “conservative” was the archbishop... I mean, it’s not like he is being an Imam, commenting mosques, but instead dignifying them above their reputation for untold homosexuality


37 posted on 09/06/2011 8:25:22 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: marshmallow

Well, this is the end result of gubberment defining marriage. People have been conditioned to think a piece of paper from the state determines if one is married or not, to the joy of the statists and homosexualists. So a marriage becomes just a lousy state contract that can be broken and resumed as long as the state says its OK. And many accept any impossibility as marriage as long as the state says it is marriage.

Live by the sword, die by the sword. The more people rely on their faith to define and protect marriage, the better of the institution will be, just like edjumcations and charity. Its just a shame the state has the power to punish when folks reject the homosexualist and statist take on marriage. Pope Leo XIII saw this coming 130 years ago.

Freegards


38 posted on 09/06/2011 8:25:45 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: marshmallow

So this “Tory” is against freedom of religion. Got it.


39 posted on 09/06/2011 8:27:15 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: blueunicorn6

Great Britain is the name of the island, on which most of the United Kingdom subsists.


40 posted on 09/06/2011 8:40:02 AM PDT by dangus
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To: marshmallow
Remember, GB has does not have a first amendment. Rights are extended from the government. In history, the Monarchy gave rights to the people and overtime, Parliament became the administer. As opposed to the US where all rights come from GOD and government is limited to only the powers that the people give it. (In theory)
41 posted on 09/06/2011 8:48:30 AM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: concerned about politics

“Please don’t judge us because of Oboma. It was just a fluke.”

I wish you were right. However, Obama’s Presidency is proof that a sizable part of the American voters are brainwashed idiots. America is a demographic and socialist timebomb.


42 posted on 09/06/2011 8:58:52 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: marshmallow

There is no equality between marriage and homo civil unions.
One is normal one is perverted. No amount of law passing will ever change that......


43 posted on 09/06/2011 9:04:06 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Travis McGee

The Great in Great Britain is to differentiate Britain from Little Britain... which is an area of land now known as Brittany.


44 posted on 09/06/2011 1:30:03 PM PDT by MrBleep
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To: marshmallow
When you deliberately separate traditional, Christian-based morality from the culture of a nation, as most of western Europe has, you get on this kind of slippery slope that leads to disintegration of the host society. Homosexuals, a tiny, tiny minority in any society, have successfully managed to use the false pretense that their behavior is genetically inherent to convince many otherwise reasonable people of their status as an 'oppressed mi8nority'. By doing so, they instantly gained the sympathy of the left. They continually demand 'equality', meaning special dispensations and now, in Jolly Olde England, having the government force churches to 'marry' two people of the same sex, a distinct abomination and, if successful (give it time) yet another large blow to one of the pillars (marriage) that holds a society together. Although this is in the United Kingdom and can be dismissed as just some errant MP seeking a bit of publicity, it will eventually gain some traction and, sooner or later (probably sooner) appear in the U.S. congress, using Britain's example as 'precedent'. I've ceased to believe that such absurdities 'can't happen here' because they can - and do, all too often. Until America returns to being a nation that adheres to Christian principles -not a theocracy- we'll keep sliding down the infamous slippery slope that ultimately leads to destruction.
45 posted on 09/06/2011 2:29:24 PM PDT by Jim Scott ( "Game On!" - Sarah Palin)
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To: MrBleep

Another obtuse reader. Sheesh. Does one have to explain EVERY use of English to the irony-disabled?


46 posted on 09/06/2011 3:01:13 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

An American having to explain the concept of irony to Brits, now how about that for irony?


47 posted on 09/06/2011 11:09:13 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Travis McGee; sinsofsolarempirefan
Heh...yeah ok sorry, but at the same time this particular use of irony is getting well past its sell by date. It seems just about every thread concerning some outlandish activity in the UK will trot out the euphemisms "Britain is no longer great", "Great Britain should be renamed mediocre Britain", "there's no Great left in Britain" etc etc. If we are going to use irony, at least let's have fresh irony.

And there are an awful lot of people (even Brits) who really do think that the Great in "Great Britain" is some kind of prideful and increasingly obsolete assertion of quality. That causes a lot of trouble.

48 posted on 09/07/2011 12:27:09 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Jim Scott
Agree 100%.

There are compensations. At this rate Christians will justifiably be able to declare themselves an "oppressed minority", and get all the many priviliges that seem to go with that status in the Western world these days.

49 posted on 09/07/2011 12:30:25 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: marshmallow

Wow, the word Tory wasn’t good from the study of U.S. History, either way, your British politicians should seriously start watching what’s neccessary to open up a lot more employment in Britain, because frankly they’re currently in deep economic trouble right now.


50 posted on 09/07/2011 4:53:40 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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