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Glenn Beck's "pure personal truth," Part 1 [Real Mormonism]
RenewAmerica.com ^ | Sept. 6, 2011 | Marsha West

Posted on 09/06/2011 8:15:09 AM PDT by Colofornian

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From the article: Here Glenn Beck goes again, claiming he's a Christian, this time at Restoring Courage 2011 — Jerusalem. Glenn gets upset when anyone questions his Christianity. That's weird because he's a Mormon who affirms the official teaching of Mormonism aka the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS). The LDS outright deny many of the essential doctrines of the Christian faith. Moreover, LDS doctrine contradicts what Scripture teaches. So of course there are Christians who feel Beck's not a true follower of Jesus Christ — not the Jesus of the Bible anyway. When his "I'm a Christian" claim is held up to scrutiny Glenn gets his knickers in a knot. At the rally he choked up with emotion and said in an accusatory tone that only Christians question his salvation. Poor Glenn. He's so misunderstood.

Ah. The common Mormon PR line these days. "We're so misunderstood." "So many 'myths' out there about Mormonism."

Yet when you check under the Mormon hood, there they still are. For example, Mormon belief in polygamy? Mortality (this side of death) - no; immortality - other side of death - yup! Polygamy for people Pre-Jesus coming a second time - well that answer is a bit more complex: Old Testament, yes and no; Book of Mormon times, no; Joseph Smith & other Mormon leaders, yes; post-manifesto on polygamy -- yes, but only on the sly side for about 20 years; then no; then, finally, when the Mormon Jesus returns, yes, per Lds "apostle" Bruce R. McConkie in his church-owned Deseret Book published book.

But of even greater import than the ever-oscillating Mormon doctrine of poly-wives is it's belief in poly-gods. Sorry, Christianity acknowledges one God. Judaism acknowledges one God. Islam acknowledges one God. Ancient religions like Zoroastrianism acknowledges one God. Even ecumenical reductionists like Bahais acknowledge one God.

But Mormonism? Their god was once a man who became a god of this world when a council of gods got together and appointed a man to be the god of this world...and, oh, by the way, you can become a god, too to compete with him for the glory, worship, power, adoration, and honor in the universe.

(And Mormons wonder why people believe that Mormons still embrace polygamy?)

From the article: What many people fail to understand is that Mormonism is a religion. It is not the same religion as Christianity, not even close, yet they say they're Christians. Take the time to study their Doctrine and Covenants and you'll find their beliefs are very different from historic, orthodox Christianity, especially when it comes to the essentials of the faith...No doubt some Beck fans will be annoyed that I'm "attacking" their hero. I hope you're annoyed enough to research Mormonism (links below) and to go and look at Scripture to see if what I'm saying here is true.

This is a highly linked article. So check out the links under "recommended reading" and read for yourself the links to various Mormon beliefs @ the end of the article.

1 posted on 09/06/2011 8:15:18 AM PDT by Colofornian
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From the article: Why do evangelical leaders choose to team up with a Mormon? More specifically why did historian David Barton of Wall Builders, Attorney Mat Staver of Liberty Counsel, Mike Evans of Jerusalem Prayer Team, and Pastor John Hagee join Glenn at the Restoring Courage rally? … I have a challenge for David Barton: Read Glenn's book The Seven Wonders That Will Change Your Life co-authored with Dr. Keith Ablow. In the book he lays out his "pure personal truth." (In part 2 I'll shed light on Glenn's view of "truth.")

Well, David Barton’s gone off the deep end of discernment.

From the article: As a matter of fact, the tour company he [Beck] recommended to those attending his big shindig is owned by Mormons. Jack Kinsella went to the Israel event and claims this is something he concealed. In a piece he wrote Stolen Blessings: The LDS Connection he says LDS Travel is "identical in every respect to Voyager Travel, except that LDS Travel makes it clear that it is a Latter Days Saints Church operation." Jack was irked that sincere Christians that took Glenn's advice to use Voyager Travel inadvertently contributed to the advancement of Mormonism.

So, Beck’s shindig in Jerusalem is coordinated by an Lds travel agency that disguised itself as “Voyager Travel” for non-Mormon travelers. Yet they are an Lds agency. An informed decision would have allowed Christians signing up for this to discern if they wanted to give $ to an agency that would turn around and give 10% of its profits to the Mormon church (they tithe on all profits). But no.

Apparently Beck wants the world to think of him as a Christian but doesn’t want the world to think of the travel agencies he uses as “Mormon.” Hmmm…

2 posted on 09/06/2011 8:16:08 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Ho hum. Another thread to incite dislike of Mormons and Mormonism.


3 posted on 09/06/2011 8:21:16 AM PDT by Tax Government (Democrat: "I'm driving to Socialism at 95 mph." Republican: "Observe the speed limit.")
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To: Colofornian
Why the attacks on Beck and Mormonism? He is a threat to the PTB. I would like to know from those claiming that Mormonism and Christianity are two different religions, prove who wrote or edited your holy scripture. The only difference between the two is that one religion is older. Catholicism, Protestantism, Evangelism, and Mormonism are all religions based upon belief in writings by others that CANNOT BE PROVEN.

Secondly, where in the Bible does it condemn polygamy? If the NT does so, then it contradicts the OT, which means God contradicts himself, which means he is not God.

4 posted on 09/06/2011 8:22:15 AM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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To: Colofornian
mormonISM is not Christianity.

Joseph Smith, the founder of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints taught,

“We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see. These are incomprehensible ideas to some, but they are simple. It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the Character of God, and to know that we may converse with him as one man converses with another, and that he was once a man like us” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.345; also cited in Gospel Principles, p.305).

5 posted on 09/06/2011 8:23:31 AM PDT by svcw (iphone 5 release date late October - rats)
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To: leftyontheright

bookmark for later


6 posted on 09/06/2011 8:24:14 AM PDT by leftyontheright
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To: svcw
mormonISM is not Christianity.

Joseph Smith said, “I wish to declare I have always and in all congregations when I have preached on the subject of the Deity, it has been the plurality of Gods. It has been preached by the elders for fifteen years” (Discourses of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.35).

7 posted on 09/06/2011 8:25:27 AM PDT by svcw (iphone 5 release date late October - rats)
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To: Colofornian

Peepstone, sexual predator of married women placemarker ... if the founding scam artist of mormonism is discussed.


8 posted on 09/06/2011 8:25:31 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Colofornian

[[[[[[YAWN!!!!]]]]]]]


9 posted on 09/06/2011 8:25:47 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: Tax Government

Then stay of the religion forum if you don’t like the discussion.


10 posted on 09/06/2011 8:26:54 AM PDT by svcw (iphone 5 release date late October - rats)
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To: Colofornian

Get off this Mormon kick.

I’ll believe and follow a Mormon as a leader.

I’ll never believe or follow a Muslim.

I no longer have any respect for them, for their “leaders”, or their “prophet”.


11 posted on 09/06/2011 8:27:55 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: runninglips
Mormons used to claim that their beliefs were completely different from Christianity and they had the restored truth. All other churches are in apostasy according to mormons. Recently, due to a PR campaign, mormons now claim they are Christians. Your premise that there are no differences between Christianity and mormonism is laughable. Polygamy is only one of many differences between the belief systems. Other differences are drastic, such as the nature of God, salvation, etc.
12 posted on 09/06/2011 8:28:37 AM PDT by Turtlepower
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To: runninglips

Have you ever read the Bible? It appears not otherwise you would not be asking the questions.


13 posted on 09/06/2011 8:28:50 AM PDT by svcw (iphone 5 release date late October - rats)
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To: Colofornian

Regardless,

Christian = means belief in Christ — It is absolutely clear that Glen Beck believes in Christ

Anyone who tries to define it otherwise is evil themselves.

You are either with God or against him

You have declared by your attempt to redefine this word as against him and are partners with the deceiver.

I am not a Mormon, I think the religion is bogus, but this attack by twisting the meaning of words is evil in the same way that the devil likes to twist words and meanings.

Be gone


14 posted on 09/06/2011 8:29:11 AM PDT by dila813
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To: Tax Government

Agreed. By their fruits shall you know them—and I’m looking at some pretty good produce.


15 posted on 09/06/2011 8:29:28 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Da Coyote

Get off the Religion forum if you don’t want to discuss religious topics.


16 posted on 09/06/2011 8:30:01 AM PDT by Turtlepower
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To: Da Coyote

You mean like Reid? Romney, Huntsman are just as liberal as Reid. Why would follow a liberal anywhere?


17 posted on 09/06/2011 8:30:53 AM PDT by svcw (iphone 5 release date late October - rats)
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To: Mamzelle

There are many nice Hindus and Buddhists, but that doesn’t mean they know the truth or will go to Heaven.

Doctrinal issues and believing the Truth are very important.


18 posted on 09/06/2011 8:31:50 AM PDT by Turtlepower
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To: svcw

You know what... Religion is a personal thing. It’s unseemly to attack another religion, unless there is some kind of motivation, in the form of actions that affect you or us. I don’t see what Mormonism does that affects anyone negatively. Just the opposite. I see well-adjusted, practical, responsible Mormons everywhere. I see the benefit Mormonism appears to do, as an organizing principle. And I see benefit in their idea that people evolve into better beings. And so, I applaud Mormonism.


19 posted on 09/06/2011 8:32:14 AM PDT by Tax Government (Democrat: "I'm driving to Socialism at 95 mph." Republican: "Observe the speed limit.")
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To: runninglips

You wrote: “Catholicism, Protestantism, Evangelism, and Mormonism are all religions based upon belief in writings by others that CANNOT BE PROVEN.”

(1) “Evangelism” is NOT a religion...

(2) The Bible has been backed up by THOUSANDS of archeological findings.

(3) Not a single archeological fact has ever disproved the Bible.

(4) The Book of Mormon does NOT have a SINGLE verifiable fact.

That’s the difference.


20 posted on 09/06/2011 8:32:37 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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