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Kristin Chenoweth: Christian and Gay Rights Supporter
ABC ^ | 8 Sep 2011 | Luchina Fisher

Posted on 09/08/2011 10:42:09 PM PDT by Cronos

The diminutive songstress who played a high school dropout on “Glee” and originated the role of Glinda in “Wicked” is just as comfortable talking about her Christian faith as she is her support for gay rights.

In a recent interview with The Advocate, she explained how she can hold both dear to her heart.

“I read my Bible and I pray and all of that. I really do,” she told the gay-interest publication. “But at the same time, I don’t think being gay is a sin. Period.”

Chenoweth, 43, who grew up in Oklahoma’s Bible belt, cited her grandmother as inspiration.

....Asked how she would respond to people who cite their Christian beliefs as the basis for discrimination against gays, she said with a laugh, “I would ask, ‘What would Jesus do?’ It sounds so cliché and Pollyannaish, but I have a feeling if he were on the earth today, he wouldn’t be walking around saying, “You’re going to hell” and “You’re wrong, you’re wrong, you’re wrong.” I think he’d be accepting and loving.”

Using her tiny stature as an example, she said, “What would I do if it was a sin to be short? That’s the way God made me, so what could I do? Let’s see, I could wear heels, I could tease my hair, and maybe on a good day I could be 5’1″. But the bottom line is, I’m 4’11″ and that’s the way I was put together. And that’s what I believe about homosexuals.

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TOPICS: Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: abomination; homosexualagenda; indiscriminate; presbyterian; psuedochristian; queer; sodomite; undiscerning
comparing being short to a perversion??
1 posted on 09/08/2011 10:42:14 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos
She makes no sense but I would still hit it.


2 posted on 09/08/2011 10:47:29 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Not guilty...but uncertain of her core beliefs.


3 posted on 09/08/2011 10:50:11 PM PDT by jessduntno (Obama shanks. America tanks.)
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To: Cronos

>Asked how she would respond to people who cite their Christian beliefs as the basis for discrimination against gays, she said with a laugh, “I would ask, ‘What would Jesus do?’ It sounds so cliché and Pollyannaish, but I have a feeling if he were on the earth today, he wouldn’t be walking around saying, “You’re going to hell”<

This ditz grew up in the “Bible belt”?


4 posted on 09/08/2011 10:51:53 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: Cronos; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah
...that’s the way I was put together. And that’s what I believe about homosexuals.

Kristin Chenoweth: Nothing could be further from the truth. Sodomites (they are most assuredly not "gay") make a deliberate, conscious choice to practice what God has declared to be an abomination. There are absolutely no sodomites at birth. The evils of liberalism has allowed them to believe that their deviancy is not only normal but worthy of celebration.

Through prayer and Christian counseling, there are thousands of well-documented cases of sodomites repenting of their wicked sin and living in accord with the Lord's plan.

5 posted on 09/08/2011 10:52:33 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Cronos; All

Sodom and Gomorrah just flew right past her family, I guess. Jesus is a drill sergeant. He’ll either save you or destroy you. But you will do it his way. Just sad what Christianity has become in America.


6 posted on 09/08/2011 11:00:32 PM PDT by TwoSwords (Has anyone seen my suspension of disbelief pills?)
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To: Cronos
It's sad but as a musical theater type of actress, if she wants to work there's not much else she could say. I know, not principled, but a fact.
7 posted on 09/08/2011 11:01:33 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: Cronos

Kristin, if you were raised in the Bible Belt you should know your scripture. Sounds like you have a problem with the Author’s standards.

Romans 1:25-27
New King James Version (NKJV)

“...who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.”


8 posted on 09/08/2011 11:02:38 PM PDT by 444Flyer
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To: Cronos

these people are insane.

I wonder she thinks of the indoctrination and sexualization of children??

Then again GLEE is the most anti-family, anti-christian show on TV these days or at least before the NBC porn show started.


9 posted on 09/08/2011 11:03:20 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Cronos

Another one whose brain has been scrubbed clean of critical thought.


10 posted on 09/08/2011 11:04:36 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("And your oarsman stands with his knife in hand, and his eyes spell 'Mutiny'" Al Stewart)
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To: TwoSwords
Sodom and Gomorrah just flew right past her family, I guess. Jesus is a drill sergeant. He’ll either save you or destroy you. But you will do it his way. Just sad what Christianity has become in America.

"Love the sinner, hate the sin" is wrongly attributed to Christ. That's part of the lukewarm, corrupted Christianity that many far too embrace. That aphorism (often used in a context when sodomites are discussed) actually is a variation of what Mohandas Gandhi, a non-believer in the divinity of Christ (and a Socialist), wrote: "Hate the sin and not the sinner".

11 posted on 09/08/2011 11:10:32 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Cronos

I always wonder about what Freepers think on having sex outside the marriage. Does the Bible condone it? It used to be condemned in the society, but it doesn’t seem to be any longer. At least not as much as before.


12 posted on 09/08/2011 11:14:23 PM PDT by paudio (The 0bama Downgrade Two (a possible sequel to the current horror movie))
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To: Cronos

I guess she’s not aware of who calls Himself, “I AM”.


13 posted on 09/08/2011 11:16:10 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: paudio

I think that people who have sexual relations outside marriage short-circuit their relationship development skills.


14 posted on 09/08/2011 11:19:10 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30

But, is sexual relations outside marriage sanctioned by the Bible? (I’m talking more about pre-marital sex or among divorcee, not cheating, which is still considered bad.) Or we simply look the other way now?


15 posted on 09/08/2011 11:25:04 PM PDT by paudio (The 0bama Downgrade Part Two (a possible sequel to the current horror movie))
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To: paudio

No and no.


16 posted on 09/08/2011 11:28:00 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa
Good to know. I'm just wondering how many Freepers actually do it.
17 posted on 09/08/2011 11:29:52 PM PDT by paudio (The 0bama Downgrade Part Two (a possible sequel to the current horror movie))
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To: paudio
But, is sexual relations outside marriage sanctioned by the Bible?

An emphatic NO!

"God ordained marriage as his only authorized means of sexual cohabitation." -- Adultery (Ian McPherson). The entire article from this congregation of the church of Christ is worthwhile reading and, in my opinion, it's sound doctrine.

18 posted on 09/08/2011 11:31:53 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: paudio

I think the Bible doesn’t make it mandatory to have a ceremony to recognize a union, but it recognizes that the only way that one can honour marriage is to be committed to a person of the opposite gender permanently, without straying.

Anything less is a strike at the foundation of it.


19 posted on 09/08/2011 11:33:39 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: paudio
I'm just wondering how many Freepers actually do it.

Assuming you mean Christians and not Freepers: You do realize that being a Christian doesn't mean one is sinless. It means we sin just like the next person; sometimes more so. When one is a Christian our hearts repent for our sins and they are forgiven by Christ so that we can be righteous in God's Holy presence.

20 posted on 09/08/2011 11:39:16 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Cronos

What I find interesting is when anyone(usually someone in the entertainment industry) seems to think he or she can say something along the lines of “I’ve decided such and such activity(usually involving sex) is not a sin.” That makes about as much sense as someone saying “I’ve decided I’ve got 900 billion dollars tax free in my bank account” when in reality he has only 37 cents in it.

God alone, not man, makes the decision about whether something is sinful or not. I’ll take His word revealed in the Holy Bible over the words of some flavor of the month celebrity that I’ve never even heard of before.


21 posted on 09/08/2011 11:56:37 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Cronos

What would Jesus do? He would probably say the same thing to gays that he said to the woman caught in adultery: “Sin no more.” Kristin probably skipped this passage in the bible.


22 posted on 09/09/2011 12:07:11 AM PDT by dupree
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To: Cronos

Another “Christianity is what I want it to be” psuedo-Christian heard from.


23 posted on 09/09/2011 12:20:22 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: dupree
Re: 22 Amen to that.
"Go and sin no more."
Not: Go and carry on in your sin.

We are all sinners saved by.Grace; but if we love the Lord we are going to want to serve Him and obey Him.
We may occasionally stumble, but not continually wallow in sin. The Holy Spirit will ping our conscience and help pull us out of the mire.

24 posted on 09/09/2011 12:21:47 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: paudio

All sex outside of marriage between a man and a woman is sin.

Period.


25 posted on 09/09/2011 1:24:05 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (“Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address” - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: paudio
what Freepers think on having sex outside the marriage.

well, I can't speak for all, but us conservative Catholic freepers here believe that:

  1. Extra-marital sex is wrong and a sin, full stop.
  2. "Shacking up", "living together", "free for all szx" is wrong and a sin
  3. "Bed jumping" is a sin
  4. "Easy, no fault divorce" making it divorce first, talk later is wrong and leads to the devaluation of marriage
  5. treating marriage as just a contract or a partnership or just companionship is incorrect -- Marriage is a sacrament a union of God with man and woman -- God is in the midst of this, hence cheating on your spouse is being disobedient to God, hence living together is cutting out God, etc.

26 posted on 09/09/2011 1:32:44 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: paudio
I'm just wondering how many Freepers actually do it.

I doubt you'd get many clamoring to answer that! But there are many freepers who condone pre-marital sex and "live-in relationships" -- they are a product of this society.

Speaking for myself, no I haven't. Would I have done this when in my early 20s I was agnostic at best? Probably yes, but didn't get the opportunity -- at times the opportunity just slipped away and at other times I "didn't get it" -- now I believe it was God giving me a helping hand at a time I was weak. Then, I just thought I was a nerd!

Since I've been married I have no such intentions -- not because I'm "better than" most people -- I'd say I'm about average in getting tempted, but thanks to God's grace I don't act on it -- I really do honestly, deep down, believe that marriage is a Sacrament, a duty, a Holy call, a vocation. To me to cheat on my spouse is more than just cheating on her, it is sinning against God by rejecting Him.

I think the problem in our society stems from us accepting this change in morality from "marriage is a Holy Sacrament" to "it's just sex, preventable or gay or whatever"

Imho, the way in which we have devalued marriage has made "gay marriage" acceptable -- if it's just a contract, big deal, eh?

27 posted on 09/09/2011 1:40:26 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: ReformationFan
I’ll take His word revealed in the Holy Bible over the words of some flavor of the month celebrity that I’ve never even heard of before

the problem is that these celebrities, etc. use their own interpretations of the Holy Bible to justify what they want.

28 posted on 09/09/2011 1:41:41 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Jonty30

Indeed I do not think the Bible makes a ceremony mandatory.

These are not new questions at all. The reason is that questions about rights of married persons and hereditary rights of their children probably pre-date any recorded history.

I’ve read entries about marriage in many of the legal dictionaries and NONE of them say a ceremony is required. In fact, a ceremony can be performed, but in most cases the marriage STILL does not exist until it is consummated.

Here are a few of the things that courts might look at:

Are they living together as man and wife?
Have they made an open declaration of their intent to marry?
Have they consummated the union?
Are there offspring involved?
Has she taken his name or he taken her name?
Have they, as a couple, acquired property in both their names?

Now once again none of the above taken by itself is considered conclusive. But these ideas and this same concept is recognized in every society that exists or has ever existed worldwide.

Anderson’s Dictionary of Law calls it the oldest and most important transaction in life, the basis of the fabric of all civilized society.

NONE of the law dictionary entries I have ever read define marriage as being anything else than a relation between a man and a woman, who openly chose to and consent to a perpetual union.


29 posted on 09/09/2011 2:05:10 AM PDT by djf (One of the few FReepers who NEVER clicked the "dead weasel" thread!! But may not last much longer...)
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To: Cronos
Woe unto them that call evil good and good evil.

You can't have it both ways.

30 posted on 09/09/2011 3:29:11 AM PDT by jboot
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To: Cronos

I had no idea she was so short.

I saw her in “The Apple Tree,” revival and she was deeply annoying. One of those really modern Broadway belts that make me throw my hands over my ears.

Learn how to be a better performer instead of giving interviews to the Advocate!


31 posted on 09/09/2011 3:39:40 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: dupree

You are absolutely correct. Jesus would tell them to stop engaging in a sexual relationship, and He would call it sin.

Society ignores the importance of holiness these days, but Jesus never forgot it. “Be holy, as I am holy.”
The only sexual relationship God has called holy is a marriage between one man and one woman.
We are all called to live celibate lives if we are not married, without exception.
God hates sin. He hates it. And when we ask Him to overlook our sin, we make Him an accesory to the sin He hates.
I am very sorry to see Ms. Chenoweth join the overlookers for the sake of a Hollywood career.


32 posted on 09/09/2011 3:53:59 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: paudio

“...sex outside the marriage. Does the Bible condone it?...”

IF you believe God and that HE is the author of the Bible, there is NO way that you can see sex outside of marriage, between one man and one woman, as anything but sin.

Today’s culture has negated the notion of sin....because many people today are afraid of REAL change and REAL Love.

Sad...

(Personally, I see far too much emphasis placed on disordered homosexual sex. Heterosexuals are just as guilty of misusing this wonderful gift that God gave us.)


33 posted on 09/09/2011 5:04:20 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Cronos
“I read my Bible and I pray and all of that. I really do,” she told the gay-interest publication.

The "all of that" is belittling beyond telling. No Christian is she. She has no clue about the very basic truths of the faith.

34 posted on 09/09/2011 5:04:44 AM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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To: re_nortex

Well, Jesus loved enough to seek to save people from their sins. Yes, there are behaviors that are harmful and self-destructive upon those who practice them, and honestly it is a Christian duty to encourage people not to practice certain behaviors, of which sodomy is one.


35 posted on 09/09/2011 6:41:17 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Cronos

This lost girl is beguiled—There is NO credible evidence that God ever Created anybody homosexual. Her comparison of a genetic trait to an orientation is so uneducated she is either willfully blind and Stupid—or ? she clearly is not an obediant Christian.


36 posted on 09/09/2011 8:01:31 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Cronos

“Did God really say....?”


37 posted on 09/09/2011 8:09:05 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Cronos

It’s not just celebrities, sadly.


38 posted on 09/09/2011 8:31:17 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Cronos
“I read my Bible and I pray and all of that. I really do,” she told the gay-interest publication. “But at the same time, I don’t think being gay is a sin. Period.”

If she's actually read her bible like she claims, then she knows that being tempted is not a sin, but acting on said temptation IS a sin.

But of course, she'd never say that because it isn't "cool".

39 posted on 09/09/2011 9:19:16 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: paudio
Does the Bible condone it?

Nope. It's called fornication and is a sin.

40 posted on 09/09/2011 9:20:59 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Cronos

1. Glee = homosexual show

2. chinese menue christianity is not christianity.


41 posted on 09/09/2011 10:44:07 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Cronos

1. Glee = homosexual show

2. chinese menue christianity is not christianity.


42 posted on 09/09/2011 12:35:36 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: MacMattico
if she wants to work there's not much else she could say.

Very sad indeed when a self-proclaimed Bible reader and prayer-er set aside Biblical standards for the love of money.

She knows absolutely it is a sin and she now gets to endure the guilt of having forsaken the Lord before men. I know she can repent and be restored but at what cost to her while she carries this load of guilt and shame? I trust she will not attempt the common practice of hiding the guilt with substances.

43 posted on 09/09/2011 1:23:56 PM PDT by 1forall (America - my home, my land, my country.)
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To: djf; Salvation; livius; ArrogantBustard; marshmallow
djf, I wanted to comment on the topic you brought up, about a definition of marriage. I'm not quite sure I've gotten this quite right from a Catholic point of view (which is the point of view I want to develop) -- so if somebody I've pinged wants to jump in and correct me, I'll appreciate it.

As I understand it, there are two basic legitimate kinds of marriage, and they are Natural Marriage, and Sacramental Marriage (Matrimony).

Natural marriage is something every known society recognizes, in every century and in every culture, whether it is religious or not, whether there are legal regulations or not, and is rooted in Natural Law. This means, it's what we know is best for human flourishing. Natural marriage involves the realization that

This is regarded as a natural good, even if there are no further legal, ceremonial, or theological implications.

Then there's Sacramental Marriage (Matrimony), which is like Natural Marriage but taken to a higher level. Matrimony includes all of the above points, plus:

I don't think the Church gives a hoot about legality in the secular sense. There was a time when the Church was against civil (secular) marriage --- licensing by the State --- because neither Natural Marriage nor the Sacrament of Matrimony need licensing by the State in order to exist.

To put that a different way: the State can (and should) acnowledge marriage as an institution; but the State is not the source of marriage, cannot define (or redefine) marriage, and must not degrade or impede marriage, because marriage is the more fundamental institution. Marriage is prior to the State, more essential to human well-being than the State, and could even be said to be superior to the State.

Is that 'bout right?

44 posted on 09/09/2011 3:14:05 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Justice and judgment are the foundation of His throne." Psalm 89:14)
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To: Cronos

Yogi is gonna be real sore if he snitches this one’s picnic basket. It is empty.


45 posted on 09/09/2011 5:56:01 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: lastchance

Comments like this are why I love Free Republic.


46 posted on 09/09/2011 7:37:38 PM PDT by clockwise
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To: Mrs. Don-o

You got it as far as I know!


47 posted on 09/09/2011 11:27:43 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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