Posted on 09/13/2011 6:13:40 AM PDT by SeanG200
....One last point before we bullet point the complete idea behind the Holy and Rightful judgement from the Judge of all mankind. there were 42 persons killed by two bears. Obviously this would require many more than 42 people. Why? What happens when you have a group of ten people and a bear comes crashing out of the bushes in preparation to attack? Every one will immediately scatter! In the debate I pointed out that freezing 42 people and allowing the bears time to go down the line to kill each one would be even more of a miracle than this skeptic would want to allow. So the common sense position would require a large crowd and some sort of terrain to cut off escape. So the crowd would probably have been at least a few hundred.
Also, this holy man of God was coming back from a mission, he would have had an entourage with him, as well as having some sort of head-covering on as pictured above. So, what do these cultural and historical points cause us to rightly assume? That the crowd could not see that the prophet was bald. Which means they would have had to of gotten physical forcefully removing the head covering. Which means also that the men with the prophet Elisha would have also been overpowered. So lets bullet point the points that undermine the skeptics viewpoint:
✔ The crowd was in their late teens to early twenties;
✔ they were antisemitic (this is known from most of the previous passages and books);
✔ they were from a violently cultic city;
✔ the crowd was large;
✔ the crowd had already turned violent.
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2 Samuel 12:14
From God is not Great:
“...the curse which Elisha laid upon the children” refers to the highly elevating biblical story in which Elisha, annoyed by children who teased him for his baldness, called upon god to send some she-bears to rend the children limb from limb. Which, so says the story, the bears dutifully did. Perhaps Thomas Paine was not wrong in saying that he could not believe in any religion that shocked the mind of a child.)”
Your post asks ‘Did God kill children?’.
I gave you a reply.
Are you now the new God, that you should judge or question the God of all creation?
A better question would be; “Does God allow or demand the killing of children?” The answer is yes.
The problem with most Christians, and this article, is they don’t differentiate between physical death and spiritual death. We are all going to die a physical death.
God ordered the Israelites to kill all men, women and children in some battles. He included animals in some instances. He did this, in His wisdom, to keep the Israelites from adopting their ways which where an abomination to Him. He also did it to eliminate what we see far to often throughout history, including today, I am killing you because your father killed my father.
We have people read the Bible, or see children killed in a calamity of some sort, asking how can God allow innocent children to be killed. None are innocent, except Jesus the Christ, and deserve a spiritual death.
When anyone dies, their eternal destination is judged by God on only one criteria, do they admit they are a sinner and accept His Son’s sacrifice for them. He knows their heart and will judge them fairly.
May God’s Spirit lead us to His truth, BVB
worse than this... in Revelation the WRATH of GOD will kill ALL unbelievers - man, women and children. And unless the Biblical ethics crowd does not get saved by the calling of God, they too will be under the Wrath of God one day soon. Those are God’s Words - not mine. If you don’t like it - don’t shoot the deliverer of this message, take it up with God Almighty - Possessor or heaven and earth - Amen
I should add that there are cases where God deemed it merciful to kill a child. Consider these verses about Jeroboam's infant son who became sick:
1Ki 14:13 And all Israel shall mourn for him and bury him, for he only of Jeroboam shall come to the grave, because in him there is found something pleasing to the LORD, the God of Israel, in the house of Jeroboam.
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