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Raising "Right and Wrong" Kids in a "Whatever" World
NC Register ^ | September 23, 2011 | Matthew Archbold

Posted on 09/23/2011 2:41:14 PM PDT by NYer

A sociologist from the University of Notre Dame published a study gauging the moral thinking of 18-23 year olds. The results are depressing and for this father of five, they’re scary.

David Brooks of the New York Times summarized the study, saying that moral thinking to a large extent was considered a relative matter or not considered at all, even regarding issues such as cheating on a partner or drunken driving. Brooks writes that “when asked to describe a moral dilemma they had faced, two-thirds of the young people either couldn’t answer the question or described problems that are not moral at all.”

Two-thirds?! That’s a cultural disaster.

Disturbingly, many said that morality is a “matter of individual taste.” The perceived absence of an objective morality is, I believe, devastating for our culture. Without a common morality how can a discussion about morality actually occur? Through the imposition of secularism, we’ve created a Babel of morality. A whole generation has come to believe not in truth, but truth with pronouns with “my truth” and “your truth” holding equal weight. And the only sin worthy of castigation in secular America is to impose “your truth” on “my truth.”

Pontius Pilate, of course, famously wondered “What is truth?” but many in this coming generation don’t even have to bother to ask Pilate’s question. They don’t see the need to ask because “truth” for so many has become so abundant it’s meaningless. When every whim and mood carries with it new truth as valid as the last situationally inspired truth, why bother searching?

Dennis Prager writes:

One key reason is what secularism does to moral standards. If moral standards are not rooted in God, they do not objectively exist. Good and evil are no more real than “yummy” and “yucky.”


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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: children; moralabsolutes; morality; publicschools; society

1 posted on 09/23/2011 2:41:20 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
With the death of Judeo-Christian God-based standards, people have simply substituted feelings for those standards. Millions of American young people have been raised by parents and schools with “How do you feel about it?” as the only guide to what they ought to do.

Catholic ping!

2 posted on 09/23/2011 2:42:29 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

There no fewer dads to beat morality into their kids.


3 posted on 09/23/2011 2:51:01 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: NYer

Culturally and morally uneducated fools.


4 posted on 09/23/2011 2:52:06 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Vermont Lt

Let me try that again....
There are now fewer Dads around to reinforce morality into their childrens’ daily lives.

And too many moms and dad more interested in their dating patterns than teaching their kids.


5 posted on 09/23/2011 2:53:08 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: NYer
morality is a “matter of individual taste.”

A victory for relativism is a death knell for civilization.

6 posted on 09/23/2011 2:55:17 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: NYer

bookmark for discussion in homeschool


7 posted on 09/23/2011 3:00:03 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Please stop posting "helpful hints" in parentheses the title box. Thank you.)
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To: Vermont Lt

And too many moms and dads who think it’s immoral to impose their “truth” on their children’s “truth”. This is resulting on an exponential decay of morality in this country.


8 posted on 09/23/2011 3:11:00 PM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: NYer

Sounds like socialized education is working.


9 posted on 09/23/2011 3:25:21 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: NYer

I live by the Golden Rule and simple rational thought.

I don’t understand why it’s so difficult for many people to live this way without thinking they will otherwise burn for all eternity.

I don’t believe the problem is lack of religion. It’s simply a lack of intelligence and knowledge.


10 posted on 09/23/2011 3:33:50 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: freedomfiter2
Sounds like socialized education is working.

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You're right. That's a big factor in this.

11 posted on 09/23/2011 3:34:11 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Absolutely. I wish I’d thought of that. This apathy towards morality likely has a great deal to do with the disappearance of fathers.
Great point. Thanks.


12 posted on 09/23/2011 3:40:01 PM PDT by marcbold (kevorkian, death)
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To: NYer

I would say you could extend the ‘lack of moral thinking’ to people well beyond the age of 23.


13 posted on 09/23/2011 3:43:38 PM PDT by mtg
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To: NYer

Education system going straight to He11. And dragging the kids along.


14 posted on 09/23/2011 3:55:57 PM PDT by upchuck (Rerun: Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: NYer
A dear friend of mine, who is considering entering a program of study for the deaconite in the Methodist church, includes this "signature" in all of her emails:

Train up a Child in the way THEY should go and when they are older they'll not turn from it." Proverbs 22:6

Her emphasis on THEY has always kind of left me scratching my head, but for some reason it seems appropriate to this discussion.

15 posted on 09/23/2011 4:03:07 PM PDT by workerbee (We're not scared, Maobama -- we're pissed off!)
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To: NYer

WARNING: Having absolute morals will make you an enemy of the big government state.

Remember: In the village of cannibals it is offensive and hateful to think cannibalism is wrong.


16 posted on 09/23/2011 4:03:56 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: workerbee

Your friend seems to imagine that “they” is the English language’s neuter personal pronoun, rather than a plural personal pronoun. A stellar product of modern education, they must be.


17 posted on 09/24/2011 2:47:09 AM PDT by Tax-chick ( "It is my job to be rational, and I have no doubt at all that I have that power--sometimes.")
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To: workerbee

‘THEY’ — she is afraid to quote the Bible: “Train up a child in the way he should go.’ The libbies cannot bear to say ‘he’ only, and must mess it up with he/she or ‘they,’ even if ‘a child’ is singular and ‘they’ is plural.

ANYTHING to change the thinking of the masses. Resist!


18 posted on 09/24/2011 6:40:45 AM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers?)
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To: varyouga
The fear of burning in hell for all eternity is not what motivates morality for Christians.

What motivates us is love:

"What does the LORD require of you, but to act justly, to love tenderly, and to walk humbly with your God?"

"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

"That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he makes his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust."

"Be ye therefore perfected, as you heavenly Father is perfect."

This is love, not fear. And as it is written, "Perfect love casts out fear."

19 posted on 09/24/2011 8:30:31 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone... But do this with gentleness and respect. 1 Peter)
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To: NYer
Too many parents in the last two generations have been so desirous that their children "like" them, that they have not been very concerned about giving them rules about much at all. The only thing most kids in the middle to upper middle class get pressured about by their parents is their grades in school. Parents want their kids to get those scholarships for sports or whatever, so they'll hound their kids about school, and don't seem too concerned about their moral welfare.

Sadly, even the kids in my Confirmation classes have been affected by the moral relativism that pervades our culture. I hear it in the discussions we have in class, and I have no problem in correcting their 'beliefs' in that idea. I tell them what the Church teaches, and that, to be considered a 'good Catholic', they are supposed to comport themselves to those teachings from Jesus. I also tell them that God created us with free will, and there will be sometimes they choose poorly, and that's why the Sacrament of Penance is such a GIFT!

20 posted on 09/24/2011 8:38:02 AM PDT by SuziQ
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