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Church leadership post for an openly gay Mormon
CNN ^ | Sept. 24, 2011 | Jessica Ravitz

Posted on 09/30/2011 11:32:49 AM PDT by Colofornian

(CNN) - Early on in life, Mitch Mayne knew exactly who he was.

He would race home...to watch reruns of “Star Trek” and swoon over his crush, Captain Kirk. At 8, after his parents converted, he was baptized into The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints...

It is where he feels spiritually at home, irrespective of the fact that, for the past 10 years, he’s been openly gay.

“I’m a man that lives in two worlds that a lot of people don’t think intersect,” Mayne said...

Actively Mormon and openly gay: It's the sort of combo that might leave people wondering...

...In mid-August he was...called (as Mormons say) by local church officials to serve in an LDS Church leadership position in San Francisco.

Mayne’s appointment may have generated attention, but he’s not the first gay Mormon to assume a leadership role in the church.

In Seattle, Washington, and Oakland, California, gay men have reportedly served in LDS Church leadership roles, Peggy Fletcher Stack wrote in her piece about Mayne in The Salt Lake Tribune. What makes Mayne unique, Stack said, is that he "may be the first local LDS leader to announce his orientation over the pulpit.”

Late last month, from the pulpit, Mayne revealed - to anyone who didn't already know - who he is:

"I am a gay Latter-day Saint.

SNIP

"I don't want tolerance. If I am tolerated, I am disliked in some way...

"I don't want acceptance. To accept me is to graciously grant me the favor of your company. To accept me is to marginalize me with the assumption that I am less than you..."

SNIP

...Mayne, who was in a longtime monogamous relationship until a year ago, was only able to get his church calling because he’s not currently with someone.

(Excerpt) Read more at religion.blogs.cnn.com ...


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From the article: ...Mayne, who was in a longtime monogamous relationship until a year ago, was only able to get his church calling because he’s not currently with someone.

Well, this tells me that if he steps down -- and then takes up another man -- then when that relationship ends the Mormon church can come "calling" again for him. Yo-Yo callings in the Mormon church, eh?

Ah, more liberal conveniences involving the Mormon church:

* Homosexual rights: Mormon church supports Salt Lake City's protections for gay rights and Mormons Back Salt Lake City Gay Rights Laws

Illegal alien liberal policy nuances... note these headlines & stories: Considering The Disconnect Between Some LDS Church Members and Leadership on Immigration

Abortion: The official Mormon church position (see
http://www.religioustolerance.org/lds_abor.htm) is that it's "OK" for an abortion if...
(a) Incest needs to be covered up;
(b) The baby is disabled and needs to be destroyed accordingly
(c) Mom's "health" (whatever that means...distinct from saying "life" of the mother)
(d) If the abortionist says it's "OK"
(e) If the Mormon god says it's "OK" in prayer...

E alone above could "justify" abortion to individual Mormons as long it overrides the person's conscience!

And if you need further evidence of just how liberal the Mormon church leadership can be when it wants to be, then look at how Harry Reid was welcomed with such warm open arms by an all BYU student & faculty occasion for Reid to speak there: Reid gets warm reception at BYU

1 posted on 09/30/2011 11:32:49 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Why not a leadership position for a sexual deviant in a religion founded by a sexual deviant? What does what the Bile says on the matter mean to a Mormon after all? Nothing and less than nothing, obviously.


2 posted on 09/30/2011 11:41:14 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Colofornian

Nothing would surprise me about the Mormon cult. Even the Boy Scouts have more moral compasses than these cult followers. Pathetic!


3 posted on 09/30/2011 11:47:28 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: allmendream

Mormons.... care to chime in???


4 posted on 09/30/2011 11:48:41 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Colofornian

Can he have multiplie husbands?


5 posted on 09/30/2011 11:55:50 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: Colofornian

Lol! Keep that up and LDS will stand for Latter Day Sodomites...


6 posted on 09/30/2011 11:56:24 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Colofornian

Hey, kind of like the Catholic Church!!


7 posted on 09/30/2011 11:56:42 AM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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. . .Mayne, who was in a longtime monogamous relationship until a year ago, was only able to get his church calling because he’s not currently with someone.

So he got the leadership post because he is, at least currently, celibate. And the leadership post consists mainly of setting appointments and paperwork. This proves Mormons still hate gays because it was not a sufficiently important leadership post. And because he had to quit his relationship in order to get it.

Further, the church university is turning liberal not only because they let Harry Reid speak there, but because Obama actually managed to get close to 19% of the vote in the county in which it is located in 2008. But since John Kerry got 26% in 2004, this also proves Mormons are racist. < /sarcasm >

8 posted on 09/30/2011 11:59:26 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: allmendream

Bishop Fletcher in the Castro district. What a guy! Sounds like he saved this poor soul.........for himself.


9 posted on 09/30/2011 12:12:15 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where INVITED Freepers will meet again next summer. Jim Robinson Too)
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To: fwdude

7 posts this time.


10 posted on 09/30/2011 12:14:46 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: Vigilanteman

This proves Mormons still hate gays because it was not a sufficiently important leadership post. And because he had to quit his relationship in order to get it.

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Wrong on both counts. Stake secretary IS a huge post (and important).

Secondly, the relationship ended, he didn’t quit the relationship to get the position.

This shows what I have said for quite awhile, the LDS will so go the way of the ELCA and Episcopalians.


11 posted on 09/30/2011 12:18:12 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: Vigilanteman
So he got the leadership post because he is, at least currently, celibate.

No, he's just not in a declared, committed relationship. I wouldn't lay money on the celibacy claim.

12 posted on 09/30/2011 12:34:02 PM PDT by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: Colofornian

Homosexual Mormon? :? Does this mean he believes in the next life he will be the god of his own planet and experience endless anal sex with a lot of males? And how exactly will his planet be populated if there’s no women on it?


13 posted on 09/30/2011 12:43:25 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Thane_Banquo

first laugh of the day thanks


14 posted on 09/30/2011 1:11:31 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Colofornian

Wow. Pretty sad. I grew up knowing Mormons as highly moral, if theologically challenged, people.

I am disheartened greatly by the demise of their moral bearings.


15 posted on 09/30/2011 1:21:27 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: fwdude
The Catholic Church doesn't teach any of those errors (your reference is to Post #1.)

I suppose you could say you inadvertently omitted the word "Not"?

I hope you don't expect serious falsehoods to stand unchallenged?

16 posted on 09/30/2011 1:39:55 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Truth is stronger than faction.)
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To: reaganaut
This shows what I have said for quite awhile, the LDS will so go the way of the ELCA and Episcopalians.

The RLDS -- headed by Joseph Smith's several generations of offspring -- have already embraced social liberalism to a degree...they've added "sexual orientation" to their non-discrimination list (whatever that means)...and celibacy is a non-issue for RLDS (Community of Christ) members.

The LDS will indeed keep moving toward the RLDS.

Such is the case for those religious bodies that give lip service to the Bible.

17 posted on 09/30/2011 1:43:12 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Early on in life, Mitch Mayne knew exactly who he was. He would race home...to watch reruns of “Star Trek” and swoon over his crush, Captain Kirk. At 8, after his p

OH PUKE !!


18 posted on 09/30/2011 1:43:39 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: ReformationFan
And how exactly will his planet be populated if there’s no women on it?

Queer couples may adopt from other planets.

19 posted on 09/30/2011 1:44:17 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Colofornian

“Mitch...get a life.”

20 posted on 09/30/2011 1:45:22 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: Colofornian

ANY Church that accepts sin and actually promotes it can not call itself Christian.


21 posted on 09/30/2011 1:46:32 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Graybeard58
Queer couples may adopt from other planets.

The question for Mormon homosexuals called by the Mormon hierarchy in Salt Lake City is: Were you spirit-born that way in the pre-existence?

22 posted on 09/30/2011 1:48:11 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

“I am a gay Latter-day Saint.

No sir, you are sick person consumed with their sin


23 posted on 09/30/2011 1:49:13 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
(To the homosexual person highlighted in this article): No sir, you are sick person consumed with their sin

(And this sin is sanctioned @ the highest level of official Mormondom -- and by grassroots Mormons who continue to pay their tithe to this religious body)

24 posted on 09/30/2011 1:51:21 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I no longer have any respect for a “church” which suspends one of its priests because he preaches against homosexuality and abortion. It is a cult, and nothing more.


25 posted on 09/30/2011 2:09:08 PM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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To: Thane_Banquo

They already have a history of “sealing men to men” so I wouldn’t rule out the possibility.


26 posted on 09/30/2011 2:28:50 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: Colofornian

“He would race home...to watch reruns of “Star Trek” and swoon over his crush, Captain Kirk.”

That pic of sulu in a wedding dress outside the plane window while kirk watches popped into my mind as soon as I read that.


27 posted on 09/30/2011 3:16:39 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: fwdude

Fr. Donat Gionet,defender of the Catholic Faith

I think this is the case you were referring to: Rev. Donat Gionet, a priest who was giving a series of sermons against abortion and homosexual vice in numerous Canadian Catholic churches, was suspended by the Bishop of Bathurst (apparently) for the strongpreaching. This was covered in the Canadian Press(Link) earlier this month.

This much is clear: Fr. Gionet is the one who was defending the Catholic Church and its doctrines (quoting rather respected Catholic sources, by the way: the Bible, the Catechism, and the Pope). In contrast, the bishop of Bathurst (Rev. Valéry Vienneau) is the one who is failing to do so.

It is Bishop Vienneau, then, who has no respect for the teaching of the Church.

It is rather muddled for you to come out against the Church, when the strong-preaching priest you ought to be supporting, Fr. Gionet, is forthrightly and courageously FOR the Church.

If you are a friend of the truth, you ought to be standing with Fr. Gionet.

28 posted on 09/30/2011 3:52:42 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Truth is stronger than faction.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Is not there a hierarchy in the Church. Are underlings not answerable to the Archbishops and the Pope? Why was nothing done about this travesty?


29 posted on 09/30/2011 4:10:38 PM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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To: Recovering_Democrat; Colofornian
Wow. Pretty sad. I grew up knowing Mormons as highly moral, if theologically challenged, people.

I am disheartened greatly by the demise of their moral bearings.

What I find incongruous in this is the way the mormons boasted about being the main drivers of the Prop 8 battle, and now they have joined the gay rights brigade....I wonder when the revelation from God was given on this?

30 posted on 09/30/2011 4:49:43 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Obama has made it official now..a white is only 3/5s a person in the US. Diversity wins.)
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To: fwdude
(1) Yes, there is a hierarchy in the Church.

(2) Yes,"underlings" (your term) are answerable to the Archbishops and the Pope.

(3) Yes--though you didn't ask---all of us are answerable to uphold the authentic teachings of the Church, which--- reduced to a convenient,searchable form--- you can get a notion of via the Catechism of the Catholic Church(Searchable at Link)

(4) Yes---I'll answer this unasked question, too- -- Fr. Gionet also has rights under Canon Law, which I certainly hope he will make use of to appeal his suspension or (more probably) change his incardination to a different diocese.

(5) Yes --- your third unasked question --- individual Catholic faithful have the right to protest the Bishop's scandalous, unpastoral, and shabby treatment of this good priest.

Most Rev. Valéry Vienneau, Bishop of Bathurst
645, avenue Murray
C.P. 460
Bathurst, New Brunswick
CANADA E2A 3Z4

Tel: (506) 546-1420
Fax: (506) 548-5565

E-mail: valeryv@nb.aibn.com

(6)"Why was nothing done about this travesty?" Well? What have you done? Pray? Fast? Protest to the Bishop? And if not, Why???

If you are a Catholic, you have the authority of the Sensus Fidelium behind you. I should add that, while it is not obligatory, it is within the Tradition to include in one's comments to pusillanimous hierarchs, some appropriate Biblical references to "millstones" and "whited sepulchres."

Have at it, dude. I'll do the same.

31 posted on 09/30/2011 5:15:57 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (In Jesus' Name. Amen.)
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To: Colofornian

My tagline explains the LDS.


32 posted on 09/30/2011 6:47:20 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: greyfoxx39

To be fair, sometimes the leadership of an organization or movement is NOT in step with the vast majority of it membership...perhaps this is what happened. (see: Republican Party)


33 posted on 09/30/2011 8:31:33 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat

To be fair, sometimes the leadership of an organization or movement is NOT in step with the vast majority of it membership...perhaps this is what happened. (see: Republican Party)

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Mormonism is a very clear exception to this. Part of their requirements is ‘sustaining’ their prophets, apostles, regional and even local leadership. This ‘sustaining’ is an agreement that they are speaking for God and basically to follow what they say, do as the will of God (that includes church jobs like this one called ‘callings’).

There is no real room for disagreement between the LDS leadership and the rank and file. If you generally disagree you are either excommunicated (if vocal) or go ‘inactive’ or leave.

Mormonism is a very controlling organization and this is just one of the ways it keeps control. Been there done that (see tagline).


34 posted on 09/30/2011 11:33:53 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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