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Posted on 10/03/2011 10:52:57 PM PDT by Salvation
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Catholic chaplains have served the spiritual needs of the men and women in uniform since 1917.
Actually this weekend, I heard that military chaplains began serving the troops in 1775.
This issue was addressed by the Catholic Chaplains at the Serra Club Conference that I attended this weekend.
I heard the Archbishop speak and got to talk with him privately too.
He IS a memember of the USCCB, poor guy!
Imagine your job is to provide spiritual and emotional support and guidance to a parish of thousands of mostly young men and women. Imagine most of the people in your parish move away every three years and that new people move in. Imagine that you too, must move and start learning the ropes of a new place, and that you are the only priest in the area.
That constant change is part of the every day life and work of Catholic chaplains in the military. Unlike a priest in a civilian parish, chaplains in the Army, Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps and Coast Guard must work with a constantly changing group of people. It is a personal ministry of presence, caring for the needs of Catholic military personnel and their families.
The work of chaplains is not confined to the chapel. They go wherever their people arein a tent in the desert, on the deck of an aircraft carrier, in the barracks on base, on a fire-fighting line, in the VA hospital, in the halls of the Pentagon.
Because military service requires extraordinary sacrifices of those who serve and their families, chaplains strive to make themselves available and present, day or night, to offer guidance, education, and direction on Church doctrine or simply to listen. Through their words and actions, they provide a place where those in the military can take comfort in and draw strength from the sacraments and reflect on the responsibilities and challenges they have taken on to protect their fellow Americans.
The 1.5 million Catholics served by chaplains are a diverse group: 5th generation soldiers, new citizens, young people from cities and farms, veterans, people in positions of command, young mothers and fathers. Chaplains often speak about the exciting, creative nature of their ministry. They seek ways to reach out and connect with the different people they serve on a personal level, an opportunity they note is hard to come by in a civilian parish.
The days are long. It can be lonely. Yet if you talk to most any of the priest-chaplains in the military, they will tell you they would not trade this ministry for any other. The rewards are great. The support of people in the military is there. They are open to spiritual growth and willing to work hard for it. As the people in our military do the difficult work of protecting our freedom, Catholic chaplains walk beside them, providing the spiritual and emotional strength they need.
**repealing the rule would present chaplains with a profoundly difficult moral choicewhether to obey God or men.**
**Catholic chaplains must show compassion for persons with a homosexual orientation but can never condone even silently homosexual behavior, Broglio said. A change might have a negative effect on the role of the chaplain not only in the pulpit, but also in the classroom, in the barracks, and in the office.**
The role of the Catholic and REAL Christian chaplains must be so difficult these days.
Have there been any updates on this issue since it was originally reported in June?
I know the answer to this one and I am not even Catholic.
Seeking guidance or asking for a blessing is not and has never been an issue. If requested, the Catholic Chaplain is obviously going to do whatever he can to provide guidance to the gay service member, including prayer and blessings (as appropriate).
However, what he is not going to do is violate the beliefs he has sworn to protect and uphold by delivering sacraments to those who are not qualified to receive them.
One has to ask this question:
Is this an unintended consequence of having a Black Theology President or is it an actual attack on Catholicism.
We know that Obama is an anti-Semite, he hates Jews, is he also anti-Catholic, or is he as I suspect a Muslim.
Is he also bi-sexual in his personal preferences and is that the reason he has pushed the Homosexual Agenda.
There are many questions, but I believe the outcome is that Priests and Preachers and Rabbi’s of Faith who refuse to marry same sex perverts will eventually be banned from the military.
Many men will go off to battle without the brave Chaplains to administer the “last Rites” or Communion on the Battlefield
This will add to the reasons why many men will refuse to serve their Country and their God for the United States.
Unintended Consequences or part of the Devil’s plan to deny eligion in our country brought on by an anti-Christ .
Catholic chaplains must show compassion for persons with a homosexual orientation but can never condone even silently homosexual behavior, Broglio said.
>>Many men will go off to battle without the brave Chaplains to administer the last Rites or Communion on the Battlefield<<
Maybe you have never heard of the lavender mafia. How many of us have parishes with openly gay EMHCs or music directors?
Seriously, there are enough priests that are liberal enough to “overlook” sexual preference.
All they are doing is supporting the libs.
BTTT for your great answer!
I respect any who is caught in the web of homosexual deceit. I tell them up front I agree 100% with what is written from Genesis to the Revelation of Jesus Christ. And find it as True today as when first written by men inspired by God. I tell them as well that I also agree with what Gen.Colin Powell wrote of “sexual Orientation” in the early part of the decade of the 1990’s it is perhaps one of the most profound of human behavioral characteristics. For what he wrote in Crisis also remains true. I cannot claim I respect those of the homosexual sexual orientation and not tell the the Truth written in Scripture. I cannot respect someone at danger of being consumed in the fire to come unless I do all in my power in Christ to see they know there is an escape. Unless they repent of their ways they will die in their sins.
**Is this an unintended consequence of having a Black Theology President or is it an actual attack on Catholicism.**
Or both at the same time.
According to sodomites and their Sodomite-in-Chief, “gay” is now the new black, equivalent in every way to race, and therefore, any disparaging word against homosexuality will be construed as tantamount to KKK-racism against blacks. How long does anyone think a chaplain is going to last in that environment?
I thank God constantly that our pastor was the only one who could be bothered to return my phone calls when I started inquiring in 2004... I've been to some of these parishes and they're utterly miserable.
Right... because, as everyone knows, a behavioral choice (homosex) is exactly the same as an inherent characteristic (race/ethnicity).
I’m just postulating on the “reasoning” that will be used to persecute unwilling chaplains. And it WILL happen.
Oh, I know... I still can’t get past their attempts at logic here...
The cleric on the left is not Abp. Broglio. It is the Holy Father's personal secretary, Msgr. Gaenswein.
I didn’t think it looked like him, but that picture was from a few years ago and I wondered if there had been a change in his appearance.
It was great to meet Archbishop Broglio, though, and talk with him.
Therein lies the problem, Salvation. Notice that the Republican controlled House caved on this...the voted FOR repeal of DADT.
This should tell us that there are a large number of so-called "fiscal" conservatives in the House. IOW, they believe in anything goes so long as you balance your checkbook. They are a blight on this nation, and they are PROOF that no matter who wins the presidency, we are going to get same-old-same-old.
We are blessed.
A priest patriot and my Latin teacher in high school in Cleveland Ohio. KIA Vietnam 1968. Rest in peace warrior.
Nothing difficult about that.
Any Catholic person liberal enough to marry same sex couples has no business calling himself a Priest.
No Same-Sex Weddings at West Point’s Catholic Chapel, Says Military Archdiocese
(Praying for 2012)
I recall a conversation I had with a close friend and former Catholic Chaplain in the Air Force (he retired as a Brig. General). It would be an understatement to say he is one of the most magnificent men I have ever known.
Just as an aside, if I recall our conversation correctly, there have been four Chaplains who have been awarded the Medal of Honor and all four were Catholic Chaplains.
Now more than ever, we NEED all Christian Chaplains in our military. They must be allowed to live their faith and provide solice and counsel to members of our military without government intervention.
I am sick to my stomach for the anguish that holy men and women ministering to our service members will be facing as this goes forward. I fear this will be ugly.
Well that is good because I would hate to have find a new Church this late in life.
The numbers of votes for this are so sad. I concur with your analysis. Throw them out!
Father Capodonno is indeed a hero.
Pray for more Catholic Chaplains. They now have a co-sponsorship program where they have a parish location as well as serving on the base.
I had never thought about it today, but several of the Catholic Chaplains on this Serra Club weekend repeated:
“In the regular world the people come to the priest in the parish. In the military world the priest goes to the troops, and basically has no parish.”
I think they are trying this co-sponsorship program in Washington, Virginia and one other state which I cannot remember at the present.
These priest who are also soldiers, sailors, air force personnel, etc. are truly God-fearing and God-serving men. God bless them.
I had never thought about it BEFORE today,
The end of DADT should effectively mean no changes for the chaplains. They still bless those who ask for it and extend sacraments to those who are eligible. The DoD can't require them to give communion to someone who isn't Catholic so they shouldn't be required to extend marriage to someone that isn't eligible for the sacrament either.
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If the Pentagon and the white house had done a proper investigation into this insane policy there would be no conflict but of course we know this was done, rushed through and then will be used to overthrow DOMA.
This out of anything should be dealt with as soon as we take power and remove this insane policy of allowing homosexuals to serve openly
well I won’t shut up at all about homosexuality or their agenda.
I am sick and tired of them trying to tell me that a man having sex with another man is natural.
I left the Anglican church but I am thinking of joining a Catholic church as they seem to be the last few which stand as against this type of agenda
Here’s hoping (praying?) they have the courage of their convictions.
Sad, isn’t it?
I and my wife went ot our church to get signatures for the marriage amendment and half the old people told us either they did not want to sign anything and a couple said they have no problem with homo marriage.
What on earth, now I’m not very religious, say a prayer on a Sunday before dinner, celebrate the holidays and I do say Christmas because i am very stubborn and I do correct folks but for these people who say they are church goers and very religious to now say they have no problem is disgusting...
I seriously am thinking of going to a Catholic church and seeing a priest to convert and maybe go back to church as the religion still stands for what it used to and will not cave in due to PC and a sick agenda.
I also just happen to live in St Augustine the place where the first mass was ever said in north America and they have a 200 foot cross, chapel etc where the first Spanish said their mass.
To be there and I would advise anyone to visit it, would make your hairs stand up.
To see the place, go tot he chapel, to see the site and think how it was back then is amazing.
this is the true measure of separation of church and state...
we catholics must stick with our faith...
Dear Romulus, context matters. In a hypothetical thought experiment, sure it is easy to choose between obeying God or man. But when one has to consider that it may cost one's job or life, not everyone has the honesty, fortitude, courage and faith of St. Thomas More. Knowing the right answer and choosing it are two distinctly different things.
In general terms, you make a valid point, and I did consider it before posting. But here we are talking chiefly of Catholic chaplains, who are in the happy position of not having wives and children family relying on them. Freed from powerful temptations to compromise, it becomes easier for them to make the right choice, one that arguably would call for greater heroism from a lay person living in the world.
To be sure, matters are being engineered in this way not so much to cow chaplains into submission as to make their continuing ministry in uniform impossible and thus drive them from view. This will present a hardship and spiritual danger to service members — but sanguis martyrum semen Christianorum.
I’m sure we agree that before going underground Catholic citizens (and all others of good will) should loudly defend their civil and human rights to practice their religion unmolested.