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Harold Camping says Judgment Day will occur Oct. 21 (for real this time)
MLIVE ^ | 4 October 2011 | Troy Reimik

Posted on 10/05/2011 1:51:56 PM PDT by Cronos

Yes, this again.

There are fewer billboards this time, but the people who brought you the popular Rapture "scare" of May 2011 are back with a more subdued sequel titled "Wait, Wait, We Meant October."

You may recall the excitement earlier this year when Grand Rapids received a visit from the followers of Family Radio Worldwide, a California-based Christian group led by 89-year-old Harold Camping, who were traveling the country to loudly and colorfully proclaim Judgment Day's imminence.

It didn't happen. OR DID IT!? The conspicuous lack of a world-ending earthquake left Camping and his followers scrambling to explain why life somehow continued as normal after May 21. Here, according to Family Radio's website, is what they've settled on:

What really happened this past May 21st? What really happened is that God accomplished exactly what He wanted to happen. That was to warn the whole world that on May 21 God’s salvation program would be finished on that day. For the next five months, except for the elect (the true believers), the whole world is under God’s final judgment. To accomplish this goal God withheld from the true believers the way in which two phrases were to be understood. Had He not done so, the world would never have been shaken in fear as it was.

What does that mean? The statement goes on:

Thus we can be sure that the whole world, with the exception of those who are presently saved (the elect), are under the judgment of God, and will be annihilated together with the whole physical world on October 21, 2011, on the last day of the present five months period. On that day the true believers (the elect) will be raptured. We must remember that only God knows who His elect are that He saved prior to May 21.

In the months since the non-Rapture, Camping turned 90, suffered a stroke, and was awarded an Ig Nobel prize for his dubious contributions to human knowledge.

As his revised date approaches, Camping seems less confident -- the Christian Post notes Camping's proclamations about Oct. 21 have been heavy on the probablys. So if you find yourself unable to muster the same enthusiasm for Rapture 2011 this time around, you're definitely not alone.


TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian
KEYWORDS: camping; haroldcamping; inflation; oil; rapture; shorts; stocks
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1 posted on 10/05/2011 1:51:59 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: count-your-change; Uri’el-2012

and the Jehovah’s Witnesses say the end of the world is in 2012, right?


2 posted on 10/05/2011 1:53:18 PM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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To: Cronos

This nutcase took it real hard back in May when nothing happened. I wonder how he’ll take it on the 22nd?


3 posted on 10/05/2011 1:54:56 PM PDT by bcsco (A vote for Cain will cure the Pain!)
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To: Cronos

Time for gullible old people to write him checks again. And they will.


4 posted on 10/05/2011 1:55:02 PM PDT by albie
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To: Cronos

With Camping being 89 years old, the end of the world for him is likely to be very soon.


5 posted on 10/05/2011 1:55:55 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Cronos
Had He not done so, the world would never have been shaken in fear as it was.

Brother Camping apparently doesn't get out much.

6 posted on 10/05/2011 1:57:05 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Cronos

Does he give a time? That’s my birthday and I’m looking forward to my cake...If it’s after 6:00pm then I’m good to go...otherwise I’ll have to throw the party earlier...I hate it when this stuff happens!


7 posted on 10/05/2011 2:00:59 PM PDT by Hotdog
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To: trumandogz

BINGO!!!


8 posted on 10/05/2011 2:01:22 PM PDT by sodpoodle (God is ignoring me - because He is watching you.)
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To: Cronos

This is getting to be like predictions on when Palin will announce. Geez.


9 posted on 10/05/2011 2:02:16 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Cronos
The dates good with me....I'll be in Chillocothe, Ohio so I won't know about it for at least an additional month.
10 posted on 10/05/2011 2:04:34 PM PDT by Recon Dad (Honkies for Herman......Crackers for Cain)
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To: Cronos

“and the Jehovah’s Witnesses say the end of the world is in 2012, right?”

No, that was the Mayans. And they’ve been gone for centuries, so I’d take their predictions with a grain of salt.


11 posted on 10/05/2011 2:04:52 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I've tried to think like a liberal, but I can't get my head far enough up my behind...)
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To: Cronos

Tell Harold the rapture already happened, he was left behind for duping gullible people.


12 posted on 10/05/2011 2:05:03 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (t)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

The Mayans are still there. They just moved out to the country.


13 posted on 10/05/2011 2:06:12 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Cronos

Figures, just when the Detroit Lions were having a good season.


14 posted on 10/05/2011 2:07:12 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Cronos

With Romney the like GOP nominee, I sure hope he is right this time.


15 posted on 10/05/2011 2:08:11 PM PDT by montag813 (http://www.StandWithArizona.com)
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To: Lazlo in PA

It would be rather ironic for the Leftists if Palin declared that she was running for Prez...and FUNNY, because if she decides to announce she’s running the Left will think the world is truly coming to an end.

Here’s another funny way the world will end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCpjgl2baLs
(warning: bad language)


16 posted on 10/05/2011 2:08:26 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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17 posted on 10/05/2011 2:10:50 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Cronos

Could be. They already made predictions of 1918, 1925, 1941, 1975, 1984, and 1994.


18 posted on 10/05/2011 2:11:19 PM PDT by FritzG
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers; count-your-change; Uri’el-2012

Mayans and Jehovah’s witnesses and other fringe outlets too take 2012 as the end year


19 posted on 10/05/2011 2:11:39 PM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers
...that was the Mayans.

I hate it that the Mayans are always ringing my doorbell at dinner time.

How many times do I have to tell them that I am NOT interested in giving my beating heart for their silly sacrifice rituals???

20 posted on 10/05/2011 2:12:34 PM PDT by Martin Tell (ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it)
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To: Cronos

Actually, I judge that Judgment Day is today, October 5,
2011. I judge today that unless the Lord initiates Judgment Day, it won’t happen, despite Harold Camping’s conjecturing.


21 posted on 10/05/2011 2:13:13 PM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a U.S. Marine.)
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To: Cronos

I won 2 cases of liquor last week in a raffle at my [Catholic] church.
I figure that hold me ‘til then.....


22 posted on 10/05/2011 2:14:10 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Cronos

23 posted on 10/05/2011 2:16:39 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: RhoTheta

Ping.


24 posted on 10/05/2011 2:18:43 PM PDT by Egon (The difference between Theory and Practice: In Theory, there is no difference.)
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To: Cronos

Noooooo! That’s Simchat Torah!!!


25 posted on 10/05/2011 2:20:46 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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To: Cronos

When you’re 90 you are surprised if you have any days left. ;-)


26 posted on 10/05/2011 2:21:45 PM PDT by Average Al (Forbidden fruit leads to many jams.)
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To: Cronos

"Now, go away before we taunt you a second time."

27 posted on 10/05/2011 2:22:58 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: dfwgator

LOL! Ain’t that the truth that something always happens. I was really lookiing forward to the Packers vs Lions game on Thanksgiving Day. I think’ll ask Brother Camping to delay JD again until after the Packers win Super Bowl XLVI.


28 posted on 10/05/2011 2:24:31 PM PDT by TaMoDee (GO PACK GO to Super Bowl XLVI)
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To: Cronos

Yeah, and my prediction is that the old fart...er...fraud will meet judgement on that day when he is struck by a turd travelling 80,000 mph into the atmosphere after being released from the International Space Station.

Hey, it’s as likely to happen as his re-prediction.


29 posted on 10/05/2011 2:26:09 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Martin Tell
I hate it that the Mayans are always ringing my doorbell at dinner time.

How many times do I have to tell them that I am NOT interested in giving my beating heart for their silly sacrifice rituals???

That was the Aztecs. Though I suppose the Maya might have done it as well. (Shows what I know about "indigenous pipples, huh?)

30 posted on 10/05/2011 2:27:49 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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To: Cronos

Harold Camping is a fraud and an idiot and should be investigated for scamming his parishioners. Just because you call yourself a Christian does not mean you are one.


31 posted on 10/05/2011 2:28:20 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Zionist Conspirator

32 posted on 10/05/2011 2:33:01 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Cronos

Oh rats! My hair appointment is for the 22nd. and they’re all booked up prior to that. Then too, when will the end begin? I’m in Aussie-land and the IDL is just off NZ - would it happen here first? But then it’ll be the next day when the US gets hit, or does it happen all at once. So confusing .....


33 posted on 10/05/2011 2:36:47 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Talent Without Ambition Is Bad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse.)
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To: SkyDancer

So Tonight I’m Gonna Party Like it’s October 20.


34 posted on 10/05/2011 2:38:09 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Uh, I think your use of the word "Aztecs" is now officially classed as racist.

According to a recent PC history I read, 1493 (OK I only read half before I could not take anymore), the proper term is "The Triple Alliance."

I kid you not, but I will admit that "The Triple Alliance" reminds me of some 19th Century European power bloc, instead of THE GREATEST CIVILIZATION THE WORLD HAS EVER KNOWN, which is what all right-thinking people know the Aztecs, whoops, I mean The Triple Alliance, was.

35 posted on 10/05/2011 2:39:11 PM PDT by Martin Tell (ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it)
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To: Cronos

Cue the “Geez, not THIS shit again!” guy...


36 posted on 10/05/2011 2:39:16 PM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Mantra of the left: 'It's only okay when WE do it.'")
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To: Cronos
I think Camping’s got some wires crossed. He keeps predicting the end only it turns out he's actually getting premonitions of his own health issues. Hopefully, this time it'll just be a kidney stone rather than a stroke.
37 posted on 10/05/2011 2:40:40 PM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: Cronos
Yes, this again.


38 posted on 10/05/2011 2:44:47 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Cronos
In the months since the non-Rapture, Camping turned 90, suffered a stroke...

HAROLD: God is coming today!
GOD: Harold is leaving today.

39 posted on 10/05/2011 2:45:40 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: bcsco

How hard Mr. Camping took it in May and how hard he will take it in October, concerns me less than how hard some of our more ignorant brethren will take it.

Having gotten caught up in Camping’s predictions, will they abandon Christianity in any form, altogether, when his predictions collapse? If we should pray for anyone it is them. We should pray that they not lose ALL faith and rest in Him to find their way back.


40 posted on 10/05/2011 2:49:11 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: dfwgator

Good! It’ll be the 22nd. here, Saturday, and it’s pub night - party harty - but then, we do that anyway.


41 posted on 10/05/2011 2:51:55 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Talent Without Ambition Is Bad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse.)
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To: Wuli

If they adhere to Camping’s preaching they’ve already abandoned Christianity. Please do not imply Camping is a Christian. He’s a charlatan.


42 posted on 10/05/2011 2:55:19 PM PDT by bcsco (A vote for Cain will cure the Pain!)
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To: Cronos

Not to hijack a thread or nothing, but, if Sarah declares on Oct 21 - it WILL be Judgement Day in many quarters!!


43 posted on 10/05/2011 2:59:56 PM PDT by time4good
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To: Cronos

The bears are getting truly desperate.


44 posted on 10/05/2011 3:00:21 PM PDT by familyop ("Don't worry, they'll row for a month before they figure out I'm fakin' it." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: bcsco

I’m not implying camping was a true Christian.

But many a Christian is weak in Christian education and many who were/are weak and biblically “ignorant” (lacking in knowledge) were led into believing Camping, concerning his predictions.

I believe He forgives them and He wants them not to lose all faith but to find their way back to Him.


45 posted on 10/05/2011 3:03:30 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Cronos

I don’t think anyone does but if you can show otherwise don’t be shy about telling us where.


46 posted on 10/05/2011 3:06:08 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Wuli
I believe He forgives them and He wants them not to lose all faith but to find their way back to Him.

That's true of anyone who seeks forgiveness. But are they seeking forgiveness? Intuition tells me if they're strong followers of Camping they harbor beliefs apart from - if not antithetical to - Christianity.

47 posted on 10/05/2011 3:09:40 PM PDT by bcsco (A vote for Cain will cure the Pain!)
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To: Cronos

We laugh and make jokes about this but it truthfully is so sad. The problem is that people get a warped idea of what the rapture is and all these “false alarms” make them bolder in their mocking. Some day the Rapture spoke of in the Bible , of which only God knows the day and hour, will take place and I believe there will be those that were not prepared due to people causing confusion like this.


48 posted on 10/05/2011 3:16:05 PM PDT by ReaganBaby26 (Matthew 12:36)
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To: Cronos

This man really needs to shut up. He cannot possibly know and the Bible states the same.

It is one thing to encourage people to come to Christ for now and whenever each person’s “end” comes. It is another to claim you know the day God picked for the Rapture.

I understand Christians in some third-world countries, including North Korea, were slaughtered for proclaiming their belief to the villages in which they lived. A large part of me thinks this man is responsible for their deaths.


49 posted on 10/05/2011 3:19:03 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Cronos

But I was going to go to Glamis, Ca. for Halloween! Dang!!!!!!!!


50 posted on 10/05/2011 3:32:00 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Uhhhh!)
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