Skip to comments.Harold Camping says Judgment Day will occur Oct. 21 (for real this time)
Posted on 10/05/2011 1:51:56 PM PDT by Cronos
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Saw a bumper sticker that said "God's back, and boy, is He mad!". Now this. I'm starting to get worried.
sorry, it’s going to need to be postponed again. I’m on vacation that week.
The Mayans did do human sacrifices but not on the same scale as the Aztecs. In fact I would guess (though I’m not an expert on pre-Columbus American history) the Aztecs learnt it from the Mayans — the Mayans were the ones who extracted the heart quickly to sacrifice.
I feel sorry for the folks who believe this and then get so disappointed they abandon Christianity completely.
no worries, but I wonder if she will declare.
The problem is overly focusing on the Rapture (with all the Left Behind books being as bad) and not focusing on God in our lives now. God at each service in communion with us and when we pray to Him. We ought to live each day as our last instead of focusing on when the last day will be.
I just know that if I don’t make the November mortgage payment on time, Harold will have been wrong again. And so will everyone else predicting a Total Disaster Any Minute Now.
As I used to say to the anti-nuclear nut who lounged on the lawn at my college, “Why doesn’t the bomb ever fall *before* the accounting exam?”
Yep, you nailed it.
Great ... my 50th birthday and I’m responsible for the end of the world. I’m gonna ask my wife for my birthday cake at lunchtime.
Congratulations — maybe it’ll be a Rap party :)
“Intuition tells me if they’re strong followers of Camping they harbor beliefs apart from - if not antithetical to - Christianity.”
Intuition tells me that most followers of Camping are not “strong” followers of Camping. Their faith, before any attraction to Camping was weak - not strongly founded - to begin with, and their following of Camping was no stronger and mostly a matter of convenience meeting a certain context - that context being “is this the end times” and what if it is.
The Book of Revelations in particular offers lots of room for interpretations, and prognostications, that have seemed most pertinent to “today” at sometime in every century of the last 2000+ years.
When those prognostications meet real times of world-wide crises, many people become vulnerable to the pull of people like camping.
It is always a time of testing on many levels and sometimes failure is the life lesson we need, the life lesson intended for us; a lesson intended to strengthen us in the long run.
Call me an optimist, but my prayers are that those who followed Camping with sincere simple-mindedness will benefit, not fail, after all, from the failure of his predictions.
I was not - never was - implying Camping was a Christian.
However, I do believe that some of his followers were Christians whose foundations in their faith were weak; not strongly informed; not well studied. To use a descriptive phrase that may not fully describe some his lesser followers, let me call it “simple minded” (uneducated) Christian sincerity.
“Christians” (on an individual level) have fallen prey to the Harold Campings of the world in every century in the last 2000+ years.
I believe it is like “throwing out the baby with the bath water” to insist that WE KNOW that EVERYONE who got caught up in what Harold Camping offered were ALL - to a man, woman and child - as “unChristian” as Mr. Camping.
Personally, I leave that judgment to G-d, as the knowledge of it is His and His alone; not mine.
Camping, you are a stone-cold mental case. STFU and GTFO.
Exactly. For just about every group, it only takes a few loud people to give the entire group a bad name. Sad.
If they're so weak in the faith that they'd walk away over the failed prognostications of this charlatan, I'm pretty certain they never met the real Jesus in the first place.
Don't waste time praying for these deceived ones to come back to A Jesus they've never known; pray they'll come for the first time to the Real Thing.
Our God is a consuming fire, and His eyes are ablaze with fire; He is love — not that He fits into our definition of "love", rather His being defines what love is. Jesus is jealous for our very souls; he is bent on removing all that is in our lives that hinders our unrestrained love for Him. Our God is a warrior; He is actively destroying the works of evil, and we are the prize for which He fights. God loves us all so much that He came down here Himself and died to have fellowship with us. He delights in us; we are His joy and His song, and He is zealous for our reconciliation to Him. He WILL ultimately judge, condemn, and utterly annihilate all evil, but His fiery heart of love is toward us, wooing us to Himself, and whosoever will may come.
If that isn't the Jesus you know; you don't know Jesus. That certainly isn't the Jesus Camping talks about; I wonder whether Camping's followers would even recognize the Rider on the White Horse from Revelation 19:11 & ff.