Posted on 10/07/2011 1:15:11 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
First of all, the Roman Catholic Church has had and continues to have its own Osteen personalities. Go back and read about some of the medieval popes and then tell me about dogmatic teachings.
Perhaps to your surprise, though I doubt it, people don't need to have a "Protestant" catechism and they don't seek to "become" Protestants, rather we seek to know Christ and follow him. You say to discard the Bible as the source for "dogmatic" teaching yet even the Roman Catholic Church must use it - or they say they do anyway - to develop what ARE the basic tenets of the Christian faith. Anyone who wishes to learn about Christianity can read the Holy Bible and there is not anything that would prohibit an earnest seeker of truth from finding it through the leading and guiding of the Holy Spirit.
Saying "Protestants don't have dogmatic teaching that is concrete" is a straw man full of such hot air it is in danger of spontaneous combustion. The Bible is God's gift to the whole world and is the Divinely inspired authority for all the truths of the faith. No organized religion owns the patent on truth. It belongs to God and he is generous and merciful to all who seek him diligently.
You think and write very clearly. What a pleasure to see a follower of Christ using his or her gifts to glorify God.
That's the impression I get to. Some of these televangelists are like stepford preachers. There's something just not right about this notion of Christianity as cupcakes, smiles and serenity now, serenity now.
I don't trust anybody that doesn't get angry every once in a while. It's not only human, but a lot of times it's healthy. Anybody that walks around with a snile on their face all the time, is wearing some kind of mask.
Weak argument ,dear sister, because even if a Pope, Bishop or anyone else goes against concrete Church teaching it can never change the dogmatic teaching. They make themselves heretics and it has no effect on dogmatic teaching of Faith and Morals
Saying "Protestants don't have dogmatic teaching that is concrete" is a straw man full of such hot air it is in danger of spontaneous combustion.
You might not want accept this reality,but protestantism does NOT have a source of core teachings of their own or you would be united, and you should know very well that the Bible does NOT unite protestantism ,it separates protestantism into many different beliefs which goes against what the Bible even says
"Careful to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. One body and one Spirit; as you are called in one hope of your calling. One Lord, one faith, one baptism. " -Ephesians 3-5
What actually is a straw argument is for you to point out cafeteria Catholics who do opposite of Church Dogma as a flaw in the Dogma.
My whole point is that Olsteen types can flourish with no dogma and many protestants jump all over him as in error when protestantism does not agree on what is an error on many issues of faith and morals
Ohhh...You mean like the dogmatic teaching your religion invented such as clergy must be unmarried and celibate and Mary is the Queen of Heaven that you couldn't find in the bible with a searchlight and a microscope???
and they all claim they can find what they teach is in the Bible even though they disagree
That just shows your ignorance of the bible, and the Protestant denominations...
There are essentials and non essentials... Catholics seem not to separate one from the other
The very fact that one needs to ask... is a sign of spiritual trouble...becoming a protestant saves no one.. one is not saved by their church..but Catholics can not understand that, because they believe that is where they are saved..
Sorry to burst your bubble ,dear friend,but unmarried clergy is NOT a dogma,it can be changed. In Fact , there are Anglican converts to Catholicism who are married priests
Amen... they think they are saved by their church..so they do not understand or know the gospel, that binds us together the children of God
What’s a Joel Osteen?
What is interesting is that this is basically a protestant thread to expose a false teacher.. too bad catholics here just accept false teaching and call it "dogma"
The Divinity of Christ is Dogma,so is Baptism and may other things you probably believe in that has protected Christian belief against heretical teachings from gaining ground way before the reformation.
So , perhaps you should be careful and be more thankful?
Who was it that said one can be right in one thing and still be VERY wrong???There is no salvation in DOGMA
“”There is no salvation in DOGMA””
The Divinity of Christ,The Crucifixion ,The Resurrection....all Dogmas. Believing all these Dogmas certainly will help towards Salvation.
Wouldn’t you agree ,dear sister?
I’m truly curious if he reads the Bible daily.
Not being judgmental just curious.
Groupies?
Yes, it’s not Christianity what he teaches
I pray for parking spaces too.
However, I also will state and follow Scripture, unlike Joel.
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