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1 posted on 10/08/2011 2:30:09 PM PDT by NYer
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Faith seen as a matter of personal choice rather than cultural inheritance, which among other things implies that in a highly secular culture, Catholic identity can never be taken for granted. It always has to be proven, defended and made manifest.

An interesting observation and comment. Since VCII, we have seen a rise in just the opposite - cultural catholics - who identify with the label while ignoring the precepts.

2 posted on 10/08/2011 2:32:16 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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Pre-Vatican II complacent? Boy, I remember it kept me on my toes every minute of the day. What a challenge it was to be a practicing Catholic in those days (as opposed to the insipid “devoted” Catholics of today).


4 posted on 10/08/2011 3:03:35 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Let's have a Cain Mutiny!)
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It was a Church of “pray, pay and obey”....

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Not the way I recall it at all.


5 posted on 10/08/2011 3:28:40 PM PDT by Bigg Red
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Pre-VII? You mean VI? Or just II or III?


6 posted on 10/08/2011 4:02:11 PM PDT by dangus
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To the author:

It was a Church of “pray, pay and obey”:
Prayers, financial support of the Church, and obedience to God's laws were all wrong?

unquestioning faith,
So what kind of faith is "questioning faith;" - its no faith at all.

the Sunday obligation,
Pardon, are you not acquainted with the Ten Comandments?

no understanding of the Church’s mission ...
"Salvation of souls" was not understood?

7 posted on 10/09/2011 9:13:25 AM PDT by Daffy
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Yeah yeah yeah. Pre-Vatican II the Church was dung and now it’s wonderful. I’m weary of hearing this crap.


8 posted on 10/09/2011 9:13:46 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I never win at Scrable.)
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