Skip to comments.Near-Death Experiences: 30 Years of Research - A neurosurgeon’s perspective
Posted on 10/16/2011 1:19:00 PM PDT by NYer
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We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen.
Fopr many scientists, it is too difficult to make that leap of faith.
It depends how one’s brain is wired.
I’ve met ~25 people who have had Lazarus Syndromes
Two things are common between them
They are much more at peace with themselves and
They are NEVER afraid of dying again
In 1970 my mother died for 20 minutes.
Her experience is just as real for her today as it was on the day that it happened.
No longer was she running on faith. Now she *knows*.
She does not fear death or grieve the dead. (She misses them, but doesn’t grieve them. She know they’re alright.)
If this man is not a believer in Christ then his experience was not heaven..
We are electromagnetic waves. Holograms some say. Characters in our Creator's video game, I say.
Right now some little punk in a video arcade somewhere beyond our imagination has unleashed Islamists (political Islam, sharia law advocates) on us. I just hope he's not very skilled. . . .
Besides if there is no life after death none of us will ever know it. Why does it matter except to make us behave just in case?
Some people think that the body has a soul.
Others think that the soul has a body.
If you believe the latter, then NDE are much more understandable.
Thank you for that post. My dad died recently and he was very afraid. He refused to face it. I’ve been so sad about it and so upset that he approached it with fear. I hope, in those last moments, he felt the wonder and peace you describe and that this writer felt.
Christ? How about God the parent of us all and creator of the universe?
What does that mean exactly?
Let’s be a bit more specific. So, are we saying that in these NDE experiences (of redundancy) the soul left the earthly carcass, went to party on with the angels and their heavenly music (Yanni, John Tesh, Kenny G?) and then returned to the body and related the story to the physical brain?
I just watched a movie on cable called “DMT, Spirit Molecule” that explores this issue. I understand some Doctors are giving their late stage Cancer patients the drug Psilocybin to aid in their anxiety. Johns Hopkins is conducting a study: http://www.bpru.org/cancer-studies/
My uncle was that way. Suffered a stroke that left him crippled and unable to speak clearly for the final 11 years of his life. But he had an extraordinary experience when they thought he was dead, and it left him completely unafraid of death. He spent the last 11 years of his life wishing the day of his death would hasten so he could back to wherever it was he went.
They indicate that consciousness is crucial in the determination of physical reality, Alexander said.
Cogito ergo sum
Wow, he just ‘discovered’ Descart
Those “walking towards the bright light” phenomenon are going to end once the incandescent bulb ban takes effect. Heck, so are “good idea” bubbles.
Didn’t Jesus say in His fathers house are many mansions. Perhaps not being a believer doesn’t mean you cannot go to other mansions that he created..Some NDE involved Jesus or ones sensing of God and light, some do not....Its a big universe....jmho others have had hellish experiences in NDE and it changed their lives...
That is interesting; made from mushrooms. I wonder what it would have done for my dad. Thank you for sending me this.
My uncle wasn't a religious man, but wherever he went to was pretty nice.
And my experience with many of the Jesus-praising religious nuts who attack everybody else for not being quite in their league leads me to conclude they can HAVE their damned heaven all to themselves.
What a bunch of miserable, narrow-minded, self-righteous snobs.
That seems true in the case of savants. It is certainly true in the case of those who have experienced altered wiring due to trauma or disease.
I think of the rest of us as being burdened with “governors” much like those for vehicles.
Synaesthesia. It’s more common than you think, most cases are lifelong. It’s particularly notable in creative fields. Start looking at the language to describe music and color, you’ll begin to notice the crossed senses of the words and themes. Color has sound and vice versa, many more differing examples than that as well.
That said, I suspect the byline of Durham, NC is due to the presence of The Rhine Institute there. I’ve become uncomfortable with the intentions of that place in the past decade or so, after having something of an association with it prior.
That’s not to cast doubt upon the validity of their research, just the purpose of it. Friendly to orthodox Christianity are words I would not use to describe them.
I know I’m going to get slammed probably, but when the brain mixes senses so you can hear what you see, isn’t that what LSD is described as?
I wonder if certain brain diseases push this beyond a dose of drugs to the point it puts the brain into a mode where all the syntaxes are actually working so well together we can’t yet understand.
I wish I understood some of the science this man knows so I’d love to read his work. I bet he has some insights into the massive syntax connections working to make you see music as colors. Or to instantly know how to play an instrument.
Kind of reminds me of that movie with Albert Brooks where when you die they send you on or back in another life. The only way you move on is if your brain usage has increased enough. Pretty funny too.
“I am but a poor soul, burdened with a lifeless body.”
Yep. Me too. Put me on the “not going to heaven list”.
Whereever it is, I hope I get a table near the John. It looks like it is going to be very crowded.
I can remember being offered Psilocybin from the popsicle man when I was a kid. The 60’s was quite a decade.
When my time comes, and if I am anxious, I am reaching for the morphine and a good cigar.
Thanks, I was having a brain block myself on the name of the movie.
I attended this Rhine Inst. lecture and heard him when he presented at IANDS,(International Assoc. for Near Death Studies) annual conference last month. It’s a great experience he describes. My experience was similar to his, meningitis to a coma.
He was a neurosurgeon at Harvard Hospital for 17 yrs. Did Med School and Residency here at Duke.
He was put up for adoption by his parents who had him while they were in high school. He had no idea that they went on to marry and have several children. He met his birth parents for the first time after his NDE and had them at the IANDS lecture. Funny thing, during his NDE he met this beautiful woman. Ends up it was his birth sister whom he had never met and died a few years earlier. He recognized her by a picture provided by the family.
Mankind as a whole percieves objective reality in the manner that it does because the senses we possess provide the perception. There are those who don’t quite perceive objective reality in quite the same manner. Some deal with it constructively, even creatively. Some don’t, and some descend into dysfunction to the point that sanity is suspect. This can be a lifelong condition or it can be induced, by trauma, psychoactives or other forms of intervention. What it means, well, I’ll have to say I don’t know, but religion has it right that there is as much or more unseen than there is seen, imho.
Ahhhhh my friend, I must tell you that you are SO wrong here. Of course we know it. It isn't just that the Bible tells us that we are spiritual beings first and foremost (and of course, I believe the Bible unswervingly), but there have been countless thousands of NDE's documented over many years. I've read several books on the topic; the experiences bear striking similarities no matter the person's race, age, ethnic background, country of origin, etc.
Yes, there is definitely life after death, and it is incumbent upon us to follow God's law but not "just in case"; we do it because our spirit beings long to be with Him and long to commune with Him. Those who either ignore this or claim not to know it seek that fulfillment in many destructive ways, never seeming to realize what they are really missing in this life. This life, the next.....inextricably intertwined.
Yes it will be crowded, but you may not like the company very much.
C.S. Lewis said something similar. He said we have a body, we are a soul.
I’m a Christian and by no means perfect. Evidently you are though.
Did your father suffer long
Did your father suffer long
Wow .... what an amazing story. Thank you so much for sharing.
Yes, I heard of NDE experiences where a single person watched the goings on and described them accurately to the surprise of medical personal, et al.
I made a statement of fact that if there is no life / consciousness / awareness / whatever after death then we will never know it. Period.
Glucose levels in the brain don’t necessarily mean squat. During starvation the brain burns ketone bodies with out any
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I used to think of NDE as the Body is hardware that the Soul or software run on. But if we think of the brain and nervous system as just controls and wiring for the soul to operate the body, it opens up all kinds of possibilities.
Guess I missed the “no” part of your statement....sorry. As for the “multiples” sharing the same scenario simultaneously...not that I know of, and not sure what that would or wouldn’t prove.
My father died of a brain tumor last December. It was horrible to say the least and so sudden. I’m still reeling from it in many ways. The tumor took him away from us before his actual death.
Before he became ill, he told me he was not afraid of death, just looked at it as the next big adventure.
Reading stories about NDE’s gives me a measure of comfort. My father was a believer in Christ and I imagine sometimes all of the beauty and wonder he is experiencing now.
Could be... We'll know soon...
Evidence of the Afterlife:
Yes there have been reported group nde’s, here is one example.
A friend of mine gave me that book to read. I didn’t need any convincing as I already believed in life after death but the book was very compelling, it would be hard for anyone to remain a sceptic after reading it.