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Fairfield Students Bussed to Hear Gay Advocate Bash the (Catholic) Church
Cardinal Newman Society ^ | October 19, 2011

Posted on 10/20/2011 3:36:08 PM PDT by NYer

Fairfield University’s student newspaper The Mirror reports that Fairfield provided transportation for students to hear openly gay sex columnist Dan Savage bash the Catholic Church in his keynote address for the “Pro-Queer Life” conference on Saturday.

The lecture contradicts assurances reportedly made by Fairfield President Fr. Jeffrey von Arx, S.J., to Bishop William Lori that the conference would “not be a vehicle for dissent.”

The Jesuit university reportedly bussed students to Union Theological Seminary in New York as part of their “More Than a Monologue: Sexual Diversity and the Catholic Church,” an effort by Fairfield and Fordham Universities along with two non-denominational divinity schools to apparently cast doubt on Catholic teaching on homosexuality.

The Mirror reported that Savage:

…denounced the Bible as a credible source of model behavior, saying that sins, like masturbation, premarital sex and use of condoms and birth pills, once so adamantly prohibited in the past, can no longer be judged by the authorities of the church.

“We have got to ignore the b——t in the Bible about gay people, just as we’ve learned to ignore what the b——-t in the Bible have said about women … about polyester, about farming and about slavery,” said Savage.

Priests cannot see the sins of people, and according to Savage, homosexuality cannot be so easily judged from the outside.

“They can’t see past our homosexuality to see our shared and common humanity, which is hugely ironic considering how many of those priests behind those pulpits are gay,” he said.

In a slightly ironic twist, The Mirror reports that after Savage called for everyone to “see our shared and common humanity,” he called traditional marriage supporter Maggie Gallagher “vile.”

Savage’s lecture contradicts assurances to the bishops reportedly made by the presidents of Fairfield and Fordham Universities that the “More Than a Monologue” conferences, ”while sensitive to the experience of the participants, will not be a vehicle for dissent.” Those assurances were revealed in a September 22nd public statement by Archbishop Timothy Dolan of New York and Bishop William Lori of Bridgeport, following a letter from The Cardinal Newman Society requesting Archbishop Dolan’s intervention and public concern arising from The Cardinal Newman Society’s reports on the conference series.

The bishops said, “With the assurances we have now received, we now must trust that the conferences will turn out as intended: not as a criticism or questioning of the faith and morals of the Church, but as a sincere attempt to listen to those who are trying their best to believe and live it, and who have some positive ideas about pastoral strategy to present it even better.”
At least one Fairfield administrator reportedly seems to prefer Savage’s approach:

Meredith Marquez, assistant director of Student Diversity Programs, felt Savage’s speech was a fitting opener for LGBTQ History month.

“I feel like while we’re celebrating LGBTQ people of America,” she said, “One of the pressing things that’s going on right now … are the suicides that have been happening. This event allows students to go and hear from probably the most popular and the funniest—definitely the funniest—and, I would argue, the most effective person to talk about this issue.”

Marquez also noted that the conversation between homosexuals and the Church needs to continue.

“To [Fairfield University], being Catholic is being accepting,” she said. “That’s how we can be the best Catholic institution if we live up to that mission. [It] is to be the most accepting that you can of all people. I am hoping that little messages will get through and it’s things like these that I would love all students will come to.”

As part of the same series Fairfield will host its part of “More Than a Monologue” with a “Care of Souls” conference on October 29th. The theme of the event, according to The Mirror is, “pastoral care of and by LGBTQ Catholics.”



TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: academia; academialist; ct; education; fairfielduniversity; governmentschools; homonaziagenda; homonazism; homosexualagenda; jesuit; lgbtq; sexualanarchy

1 posted on 10/20/2011 3:36:21 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Pray for the Jesuits!


2 posted on 10/20/2011 3:37:16 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

The homosexuals invaded the Society of the Jesuits hundreds of years ago. I don’t know if all Jesuits are corrupted—some seem not to be-—but any Jesuit who thinks something as unnatural and demonic as homosexuality can be considered “good” is reading out of Satan’s book. It reminds me of the occult practices and the masonic practice of revering the architect of the world—with child sacrifices and Bohemian Grove homosexual orgies.

These occultists have to be kicked out of the Catholic Church—I know the Jesuits were at one point kicked out of the Church and they assasinated a pope or two. They were later allowed back in—but obviously some were still agents of the Devil.

The Catholic Church has to purge their ranks of these Satanists.


3 posted on 10/20/2011 3:51:36 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: NYer
" ... along with two non-denominational divinity schools ..."

Not being specific and naming them seems a bit odd to me. Why aren't these two clearly identified?

4 posted on 10/20/2011 3:54:13 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: NYer

Seminaries hosting seminars on “sexual diversity” in the church. They aught to be honest and say what they really want: “moral diversity”.


5 posted on 10/20/2011 5:02:45 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: savagesusie
The Jesuit order was suppressed for about 40 years, but the individual Jesuits were not thrown out of the church during that period. I think it had to do with politics more than with theology (although there were some who disagreed with the Jesuits over theology).

Voltaire was educated by the Jesuits but took potshots at them--in chapter 4 when Dr. Pangloss explains how he got syphilis, he traces its genealogy back to Christopher Columbus' shipmates, including a page who got it from a Jesuit who in turn had gotten it during his novitiate.

6 posted on 10/20/2011 6:15:19 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: nutmeg

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7 posted on 10/20/2011 7:00:31 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: NYer

Where in the Bible,Jewish or Christian,does it mention polyester?


8 posted on 10/20/2011 8:06:01 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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To: savagesusie

The Jesuits should be suppressed once again.


9 posted on 10/20/2011 9:55:39 PM PDT by rzman21
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To: NYer

Pingout placemark for tomorrow!


10 posted on 10/20/2011 10:06:34 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: NYer; Absolutely Nobama; Elendur; it_ürür; Bockscar; Mary Kochan; Bed_Zeppelin; YellowRoseofTx; ..
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.


11 posted on 10/20/2011 10:14:59 PM PDT by narses (what you bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and what you loose upon earth, shall be ..)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
Where in the Bible,Jewish or Christian,does it mention polyester?

Its a new translation:
Book of Onan 6:66 Thou shalt not use the synthetic fabric, it drapes poorly and makes you look fat. Instead follow the LGBTQASAPFOB who always seek to be fabulous.
12 posted on 10/21/2011 5:04:24 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: NYer

This is why I don’t believe the Catholic Church when they feign a position of pro-family. How could anyone believe them?


13 posted on 10/21/2011 6:07:44 AM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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To: Dominick

How many more letters could they possibly add to their group’s abbreviation?


14 posted on 10/21/2011 6:18:31 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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To: NYer
What a horid story.

Why is it that the Bishops and other hierarchy are such naive persons?

This makes me sick. No other comment is necessary, because we are sure to be argued against and no one can convince the sinners that they sin!
15 posted on 10/21/2011 8:05:05 AM PDT by AKA Elena (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: NYer

My Pastor met Pope John Paul with five other Priests. One of them was introduced as a Jesuit. The Pope asked, “but are you a Catholic”. Go BC beat Va Tech!


16 posted on 10/21/2011 8:17:17 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: fwdude
This is why I don’t believe the Catholic Church when they feign a position of pro-family.


17 posted on 10/21/2011 8:21:43 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480

Tell me when they have stood behind their claimed Pro-family stance; in substantive ways.


18 posted on 10/21/2011 8:47:18 AM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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To: fwdude

Tell me, which demographic makes up most of the dedicated pro-life activists? Which demographic contributes the most materially to the pro-life cause? Which one is establishing anti same-sex “marriage” councils in each of its parishes in Minnesota? Shall I go on?


19 posted on 10/21/2011 8:58:48 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480
Which denomination SUSPENDS priests for preaching about the sinfulness of homosexuality and abortion? Shall I go on?
20 posted on 10/21/2011 3:30:26 PM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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To: fwdude

“Shall I go on?”

Yes, please, but be sure you have your facts straight, and that you’re not just talking about some rogue cleric.


21 posted on 10/21/2011 8:15:30 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: NYer

It’s both provocative and sad at the same time, to see how deep some people’s persecution complexes run. I wonder if they ever think something happy in their heads when they look at the rest of the world that isn’t like them.


22 posted on 10/22/2011 11:27:16 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: dsc
...be sure you have your facts straight, and that you’re not just talking about some rogue cleric.

As long as a thread is not a "Catholic Caucus," I will continue to react in horror to the evil repeatedly allowed in this "church" by its highest leadership.

23 posted on 10/22/2011 1:02:49 PM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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To: fwdude

“I will continue to react in horror to the evil repeatedly allowed in this “church” by its highest leadership.”

It is very difficult to persuade a person that the sources he trusts have been lying to him. Not only does a person have an emotional investment in the beliefs he has developed on the basis of information received from those sources, it is difficult for most people to face the facts when they have been wrong.

Perhaps more importantly, no one wants to be the sort of person who could be fooled like that. Everyone wants to think, “If they were lying to me all those years, I would have picked up on it. After all, I’m not stupid.”

It’s like Mel Blanc said, “Bugs Bunny is who we want to be; Daffy Duck is who we are afraid we are.”

Still, you can fool all the people some of the time, which means that even the smartest people do get fooled.

Which is all my way of saying, with absolutely no hope whatsoever that my remarks will be taken as they are intended, that you have been told many lies about the Catholic Church.


24 posted on 10/23/2011 11:39:23 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc
...that you have been told many lies about the Catholic Church.

Has it ever occurred to you that perhaps YOU may have been told many lies about the Catholic Church?

25 posted on 10/23/2011 12:02:55 PM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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