Posted on 10/26/2011 3:36:47 PM PDT by NYer
"These statistics contrast sharply with more theologically conservative Anglican churches in the global south, many of which are witnessing skyrocketing numbers.
"Despite all its liberal cheer leading about inclusiveness, the Episcopal Church is a dwindling, nearly all white, increasingly gray-headed denomination with a grim future, absent divine intervention."
Praise God for this good news! The Lord is not going to prosper those churches that worship and promote false idols like homosexuality and other sexual immorality.
This is where I went... http://www.anglicanpck.org/index.shtml
Sooo,
How’s that fags are ok thing going for ya there Episcopalians??
The only surprise is that they are admitting membership has fallen below 2 million. It's "Hide the Decline" all over again.
We left that church in 2003, after the General Convention that approved the consecration of Vicky Gene the bishop who left his wife and two little girls to live in sin with a man. That was the last straw for my husband (I had been ready to go for a while).
But we are still on the membership rolls. Getting off them is like trying to get off the Plain Truth Magazine mailing list. We finally gave up in disgust -- the diocese outright refused to drop us, so we developed a workaround that would have involved transferring our letters to a sympathetic priest in North Carolina, who would then have quietly dropped us from his rolls. But aside from involving him in skullduggery that might have resulted in discipline, it kept us involved in all the drama.
So it's really "less than 2 million, minus 4 . . . and a whole lot more."
Average Sunday Attendance ("ASA") is what you really need to look at. When the national church still published those figures, they were in steep decline. They stopped publishing them, and you have to really dig to find them now. And I stopped caring awhile ago.
Shouldn't that be "gaying" population?
I love how the embrace of openly (and practicing) gay clergy, and how that has contributed to the decline, is completely ignored.
Why be an Episcopalian stuck in church on Sunday, when you can be a secular humanist and go out for a bike ride?
And Catholics are witnessing skyrocketing numbers too. Instead of only one Rite of Election for Easter last year for the new converts — our Archdiocese had to schedule two, and the cathedral was packed both times!
All that were in attendance were the converts and their sponsors!
(”Despite all its liberal cheer leading about inclusiveness, the Episcopal Church is a dwindling...”)
Shouldn’t that be “Because” instead of “Despite”? That would be more “reality-based”!
What is it that should attract anybody to a Church that does not stand for anything, and accepts not just everybody, but even more importantly, every behavior? It reminds me of socialism, where everybody owns everything, which is another way of saying that nobody owns anything, with the predictable result of nothing is maintained, and everything falls into decay.
I wonder if the Episcopal leadership will agree to convert to Islam if Obama gives them a taxpayer bailout?
As one of the former Episcopalians who left, I couldn’t be happier.
Makes three of us. Catholic now. :)
I was raised up Catholic, fell away from almost all involvement after high school. Years later, sfter my divorce, I became involved in the Episcopal church, raising my daughters in it. I got lukewarm in the early nineties when Frank Griswold became Bishop of Chicago, later Presiding Bishop for the US Church. I could see which way this was heading, and left the Episcopal Church. I am now attending an Assemblies of God Church. While we may have our theological differences with the catholic Church, we are on the same page on social issues.
I know what you mean; been there! (We finally got off after Herbie W. assumed room temperature.)
I was also in Chicago then and remember Griswold well. We attended a fairly high Episcopal church there, Church of the Ascension on La Salle. Having attended a Catholic high school in Dallas and Catholic grad school in Chicago, I knew which way I was headed, just took a few decades to finally swim the Tiber.
Thank Gene Gene the Preaching Machine, says this former member.
If Catholic numbers are up, why the shortage of priests? Or is this not a problem anymore?
Wow! From Episcopal to Assemblies of God!! How did you recover from the culture shock?
This is total nonsense. TEC WISHES they had 2 million members!
Their system is to NEVER remove a member from their rolls unless that person specifically demands it. I left the church 5 years ago and they STILL carry me as a member. Horse Pucky!
Over 1/3 of all TEC churches are expected to be shuttered within the next several years.
This organization adopted the ‘strategy’ to become a social club, not a church of Christ. In their new role they have fierce competition from much more well established social clubs and from groups that do ‘social club’ much more effectively.
Meanwhile, those REAL churches of Christ who remain just that are exploding.
A half dozen year back, when it became clear the gays had successfully taken over TEC, many predicted this atrophy - but also predicted the gays could not care in the least, since they would still have control of the vast real estate holdings and still have a small-to-medium sized group of contributors who don’t care the church is no longer a church.
Prophetic, huh?
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