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To: Godzilla

Have you ever read the Church fathers on matters of sacramental grace, Church authority, etc.?

Mormonism has a lot more in common with the Gnostic sects that were prevalent in the early centuries.

Perhaps the gulf between Catholicism and Mormonism might be further than between Catholicism and Evangelicalism, but that doesn’t make Evangelicalism any more orthodox.

Lutherans have retained far more of apostolic tradition, especially when it comes to the sacraments and ordained ministry than Baptists have, but that doesn’t change the heterodoxy of Lutheran beliefs about grace and Sola Scriptura.

I don’t have the right to judge your soul, but I have the right to judge your beliefs because the Church has already judged them, assuming you are a Protestant.


27 posted on 10/27/2011 1:10:52 PM PDT by rzman21
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To: rzman21
I don’t have the right to judge your soul, but I have the right to judge your beliefs because the Church has already judged them, assuming you are a Protestant.

Then you better pull the beam out of YOUR eye rz, because judging the doctrines is what is being done.

Mormonism has a lot more in common with the Gnostic sects that were prevalent in the early centuries.

Incase you haven't figured out, mormonism is sometimes referred to as American gnosticism by some.

Perhaps the gulf between Catholicism and Mormonism might be further than between Catholicism and Evangelicalism, but that doesn’t make Evangelicalism any more orthodox.

If you believe that then your understanding of mormonism is very poor.

Have you ever read the Church fathers on matters of sacramental grace, Church authority, etc.?

I have read some of the ANF writings - though no where exhaustive. In any case I do not consider their writings superior to what is preserved in the bible.

30 posted on 10/27/2011 1:37:43 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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Perhaps the gulf between Catholicism and Mormonism might be further than between Catholicism and Evangelicalism, but that doesn’t make Evangelicalism any more orthodox.

Yet the core essentials remain the same - Evangelicals are as Christian as Catholics or Lutherians. Check out the Vatican II writings.

Yet those same core essentials are denied by mormonism, which makes them inelegible to be grouped with the rest of Christianity.

31 posted on 10/27/2011 1:40:30 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: rzman21; Godzilla; greyfoxx39; Tennessee Nana; Elsie
between Catholicism and Evangelism or Lutheranism and Evangelism, we still believe in ONE God, in much of the tenets of the Nicene Creed and in Jesus Christ as God with the Father and the Holy Spirit

The Mormon religion is polytheistic. J Smith may have taken bits and pieces out of the Revival movement in the 1800s, but his "theology" is not the same.

Mormonism to use your analogy, hasn't kept a quarter of a loaf but rather eats rice instead of bread.

Mormonism is even crazier than the earlier Gnostic heresies, because those at least were heresies

Mormonism is a polytheistic religion with inherent dislogic in it (it cannot be an offshoot of Judeo-Christianity as we are monotheists), so theologically they are completely different from all stripes of Christians

While Evanglicals, Pentecostals, Catholics, Presbyterians, Lutheans, Anglicans, Methodists etc. will fight among each other, we are still all under the umbrella term "Christians".

Mormons are not

32 posted on 10/27/2011 2:06:28 PM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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