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Are dinosaurs fossils really that old? [vanity]

Posted on 10/28/2011 6:39:41 AM PDT by Ancient Drive

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To: RoadGumby

If so, why do you discount His Word?..................................................................Help me here, show me what he wrote. What?? He never wrote anything himself, I wonder why?


141 posted on 10/28/2011 8:38:49 AM PDT by eastforker
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To: eastforker

Yet He did. I’ll help you out, 5 simple letters, B-i-b-l-e.


142 posted on 10/28/2011 8:41:00 AM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: ETL

Looks like an interesting read.


143 posted on 10/28/2011 8:41:05 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: RoadGumby

The same can be said about God, in theory it is just that, a theory.


144 posted on 10/28/2011 8:41:20 AM PDT by eastforker
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To: RoadGumby

I do not engage in tear-downs of anyone or their faith.

My faith is in God. He doesn’t get broken down into different parts or persons or deities, just a one God for all. I also believe that there is no way for anyone to actually prove or disprove His existence, or that anyone’s belief is right, wrong, correct or incorrect or that that there should or shouldn’t be one faith for everyone.

I believe Jesus existed as a man, yes. I do not believe He came back from the dead, or is the Son of God anymore than any other man is.


145 posted on 10/28/2011 8:43:39 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: eastforker

Whether you believe in God or not, you do have ‘faith’ in something. In your case, it appears that you have ‘faith’ in chance, that you are but a cosmic accident, a roll of the dice, here today, gone tomorrow. Quite a sad way to live. I know, I was there.

IF there is no God, then why is there a premium set on ‘good’?

IF I am just here a little while, to disappear forever, then why should I, or anyone be concerned with anyone else? It is then in my best interest not to subjugate myself to anyone, but to get all that I can, even if it hurts someone else. Because there is no tomorrow for me. What a world that would be.


146 posted on 10/28/2011 8:45:30 AM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: stuartcr

Those are sad words. You are prayed for stuart.


147 posted on 10/28/2011 8:47:15 AM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: eastforker
you said:
“Correct, much of it is written by many, some unknown,King James edited it, and shoved down our throats as absolute truth.”

“much of it is written by many, some unknown”

All inspired by GOD. 2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

“King James edited it”

“Arrangements for this version were completed by the appointment of fifty-four learned men, who were also to secure the suggestions of all competent persons, that, as the king put it, “our said translation may have the help and furtherance of all our principal learned men within this our kingdom.”

“Only forty-seven of the men appointed for this work are known to have engaged in it. These were divided into six companies, two of which met at Oxford, two at Cambridge, and two at Westminster. They were presided over severally by the Dean of Westminster and by the two Hebrew Professors of the Universities.”

“When the translators had finished their work, a copy each was sent from Oxford, Cambridge and Westminster to London, where two from each place, six in all, gave it a final revision, and Dr. Miles Smith and Bishop Wilson superintended the work as it passed through the press. The former wrote the Preface, which is entitled, “The Translators to the Reader.”
http://www.bible-researcher.com/kjvhist.html

While the king did give a list of 15 (”INSTRUCTIONS TO THE TRANSLATORS”) He did not “edit” their work.

“shoved down our throats “

No one “shoves” any bible or God down anyone’s throat. That's Islam. It is your free will to read or don't read whatever bible you want, believe whatever you want, accept or reject Jesus as you will.

“as absolute truth.”

For those of us who “believe”, (faith) yes, it is “absolute truth.” You may decide to believe it or not at your own peril.

Mathew 7:13-14

“13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.”

“destruction” = Hell
“life” = Heaven

You decide where you want to spend eternity, no shoving, just information. You do with it what you will.

148 posted on 10/28/2011 8:52:02 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: RoadGumby
There you go assuming. I never said there was no God, I said he didn't write the bible and Jesus didn't either. Oh, and is God just earth God or does each solar system and other galaxies have their own God and savior. Now lets get back to dino’s and fossils. You believe the Eden, Adam and eve story and this being a young earth, do you then believe the Dino's and man coexisted. Who wrote Genesis anyway?? I don't think anyone has determined just exactly who the author is.
149 posted on 10/28/2011 8:56:27 AM PDT by eastforker
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To: RoadGumby
In your case, it appears that you have ‘faith’ in chance, that you are but a cosmic accident, a roll of the dice, here today, gone tomorrow. Quite a sad way to live. I know, I was there.

That's a bit presumptious.

If there is no God, then why is there a premium set on ‘good’?

What is more impressive:

1) Someone who follows a strong moral code. who believes that they, Mother Theresa, Adolph Hitler, and everyone else will be the same place - nowhere - after they die,

2)Someone who follows a strong moral code because they believethat they will be punished or rewarded for it after death?

A set of moral standards and ethics doesn't require a deity. People blindly assert that because it makes them feel better (and superior), however.

150 posted on 10/28/2011 8:57:34 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: faucetman

You don’t get it do you. Man says it is inspired by God,man wrote the bible, that doesn’t make it so. You can quote bible passages all day long but it is still what a man said and wrote down.


151 posted on 10/28/2011 9:04:42 AM PDT by eastforker
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To: Ancient Drive

Mainstream science and media have been completely convinced of long ages for the earth and universe ever since Charles Lyell’s geologic research writings from about 1820 iirc.

However true science has found many many problems with both long ages and evolution esp. any with a biblical perspective [my viewpoint too].

Here are several links from my homepage - imho the best is creationscience.com a complete online science research book that combines the majority of jigsaw pieces from science into what Dr. Walt Brown PhD from M.I.T. - the book presents his hydroplate theory in section II. Section I presents a plethora of stuff that we do know about evolution and science. Section III is in-depth questions and answers. I bought the 8th edition hardback version brand new for about $30. Dr. Brown presents most of it in everyday language but also provides footnotes and bibliography showing the vast amount of research he has been doing for well over 50 years.

101 Evidences for a Young Age of the Earth...And the Universe
http://creation.com/age-of-the-earth

Center for Scientific Creation - In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood
http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/IntheBeginningTOC.html

Dinosaur Shocker - 68 million year old T Rex w/ red blood cells
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/10021606.html#ixzz0VZChRzSL

New Chromosome Research Undermines Human-Chimp Similarity Claims
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2565348/posts

Science in the Bible
http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/science.shtml

Testimonies of Scientists Who Believe the Bible
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2761001/posts


152 posted on 10/28/2011 9:04:55 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: Ancient Drive
could they have died off in the flood?

No, that was unicorns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4bc9UwZsYs

153 posted on 10/28/2011 9:09:31 AM PDT by Cheburashka (If life hands you lemons, government regulations will prevent you from making lemonade.)
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To: RoadGumby

While I would never say something like that to someone of a different faith than me, I’m sorry that for you they are sad, just the opposite for me though. Thanks


154 posted on 10/28/2011 9:16:13 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: dfwgator
Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

No animals were created untill the length of days was set.

155 posted on 10/28/2011 9:17:25 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Strategerist

Who cares about your man-made ‘moral (small ‘m’) code’?

The ‘morals’ today say that it is fine a for men to have sex together, that it is ok to kill and unborn child and that it is ok to lie, ad nauseum.

Without a fixed, set-in stone Moral code, you are at the mercy of man, not a good place to be, ask the Germans in WW2, or any unborn abortion victim.


156 posted on 10/28/2011 9:17:29 AM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: RockyMtnMan
“You push them away by attempting to argue against a uniform theory of God and Science being compatible.”

I disagree. I believe in science. Math, 2 + 2 = 4. FACT.
The trouble is in the definition of “science”. Too much science is “theory”. Science is constantly being proved wrong. Then scientists just say “never mind” and move on to the NEW theory as being fact. All theories should be investigated and studied, but to claim them as fact is deceitful. Man made global warming is the perfect example. Man made CO2 as a cause is absolutely disproved by actual measurements in ice cores, yet it is still pushed by scientists as fact.

The planet Orpheus crashed into the earth, knocked off a big chunk, which formed our moon. I know this is true because scientists on the National Geographic Chanel told me so. Only one problem, there is no proof or evidence that there ever was a planet Orpheus or any other planet hitting the earth. IT IS A THEORY, not science.

157 posted on 10/28/2011 9:18:22 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: eastforker
Oh, I get it. It is a matter of “faith”. Either you believe what is written in the bible or you don't. That is up to you. I believe the bible is true. Therefore since it says right in it that “ALL Scripture is God breathed”, I believe just that. Moses was instructed directly by God to do what he did. It says so in the bible, so yes I believe it.

You don't have to, but it doesn't make you correct.

158 posted on 10/28/2011 9:25:55 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: faucetman

If they are incompatible then they are in opposition. Science is an attempt to understand the world around us. We assign confidence levels to that understanding. You would be hard pressed to find a scientist that believes it impossible to disprove what may be considered “FACT” with current understanding. It is an evolving process where by we may expand our understanding by building on lessons learned.

You will do more harm than good by spewing nonsense about the literal meaning of the Bible. What will that accomplish other than your own personal gratification and comfort? How much do you harm the image of Christian’s knowing full well most people will consider this line of thinking a form madness. Focus on winning more for the team rather than your personal crusade to bring others to believe as you do.


159 posted on 10/28/2011 9:39:07 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: montyspython

The early church believed the earth was flat? Got any evidence for that claim?


160 posted on 10/28/2011 9:48:19 AM PDT by Boogieman
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