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Are dinosaurs fossils really that old? [vanity]

Posted on 10/28/2011 6:39:41 AM PDT by Ancient Drive

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To: dfwgator

You would know because the creation account was written, by Moses, inspired by God. God would obviously Know.


51 posted on 10/28/2011 7:18:03 AM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: bunkerhill7
The Thunderbird.

Heard stories similar to that.

Go talk with some of the old hands on the High Plains. You get some interesting stories.

52 posted on 10/28/2011 7:18:03 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: RoadGumby

Is that even enough time to fill up all the rivers, lakes and oceans? Or for rocks to erode enough to provide soil for plant life?


53 posted on 10/28/2011 7:19:32 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr

Um, the key word is ‘creation’ not filling.


54 posted on 10/28/2011 7:21:10 AM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: ZX12R
Yeah. They're sneaky little buggers...

55 posted on 10/28/2011 7:21:22 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: SoJoCo

Uh-oh...


56 posted on 10/28/2011 7:22:08 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Ancient Drive
You could always come out and see for yourself...
57 posted on 10/28/2011 7:22:47 AM PDT by frankenMonkey (10 years ago we had Steve Jobs, Bob Hope and Johnny Cash. Now it's no Jobs, no Hope and no Cash.)
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To: BereanBrain
Mountain formation can occur relatively quickly.

Mountain formation takes 10s of millions of years. Compared to a ~4.6 billion year old Earth, I suppose that's relatively quick.

The fact that even on very tall supposedly billions of year old mountains are found sea shells from recent geological periods should cause the open minded to realize that large movement have occurred in the past.

The tectonic process which raised the mountains is obviously younger (more recent) than the rocks and fossils that make up the mountains, although molten rock is often injected into preexisting rocks during the mountain building process.

An interesting example is the Matterhorn where very old (billion years or so old) rock sits *atop* younger rock, the explanation being that the older rock layers were folded over the younger ones in the tectonic 'collision' which raised the Alps (the ongoing collision between the African Plate and European Plate).

58 posted on 10/28/2011 7:22:57 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: RoadGumby

You would know because the creation account was written, by Moses, inspired by God..................................................Because Moses said so, right?


59 posted on 10/28/2011 7:24:34 AM PDT by eastforker
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To: ETL

“the explanation being that the older....”

Or perhaps, “The theory being....”

Or “The general consensus being....”

Or “The prevailing winds of thought being.....”


60 posted on 10/28/2011 7:24:36 AM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: RoadGumby

I don’t believe he specified “God Days” or “Earth Days” in the account of events. A day is a relative term when comparing the experience of corporeal beings vs an immortal being like God.


61 posted on 10/28/2011 7:24:41 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: BereanBrain

Why would a website have the real answer?


62 posted on 10/28/2011 7:25:03 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: pgyanke
actually, most dinosaurs are small. Just like all canines are descended from one pair of say, wolves, all dinosaurs, big and small, could be descended from a small pair on the arc.
63 posted on 10/28/2011 7:25:13 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: RockyMtnMan

Except that the days are punctuated by dark and light and called out, such as “this was the first day”


64 posted on 10/28/2011 7:27:01 AM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: Liberty1970

I don’t know what you said, but I agree 100%. LOL!


65 posted on 10/28/2011 7:27:25 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: RockyMtnMan

Man goes to God and asks, “What’s a million years to you?”

God answers, “A second.”

Then the man asks God, “What’s a million dollars to you?”

God answers, “A penny.”

Then the man asks God, “Can I have a penny?”

And God answers, “Sure, in a second.”


66 posted on 10/28/2011 7:27:47 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: vladimir998

Surely you jest. Latent memories of dinosaur/human interaction had nothing to do with it? And who is this “Ralph Kramden” that keeps showing up in my serious Flintstone research?!!

Freegards


67 posted on 10/28/2011 7:27:55 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: eastforker

Because it was. By your answer, I’ll take it you are not a believing Christian, and as such the Bible is probably just foolishness to you anyway.


68 posted on 10/28/2011 7:28:03 AM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: RoadGumby

He can also create fairies, elves, zombies, space aliens, transformers and real magicians...


69 posted on 10/28/2011 7:28:09 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: CGalen

“24 hours after God created an adult man, the man appears to be 30 years old even though he was created only 24 hours ago.”

I musta missed the photographs of Adam. Scratching my head as to who took them, though...


70 posted on 10/28/2011 7:28:14 AM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: BereanBrain
I suggest you check out www.answersingenesis.com or www.icr.org

I would recommend http://talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-qa.html instead, seeing as it is based on science rather than mythology.

71 posted on 10/28/2011 7:28:22 AM PDT by Guy Gardner
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To: stuartcr

Could, but why is that important when He didn’t?


72 posted on 10/28/2011 7:29:28 AM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: RoadGumby

Right, so He can create Muslims and terrorists too.


73 posted on 10/28/2011 7:29:36 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr

He creaeted man, we decide what to do with ourselves. He created you too stuart, why do you mock Him?


74 posted on 10/28/2011 7:30:26 AM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: ZX12R
Come now, this is a high-class establishment here. The word you're looking for is "Coprolites."
75 posted on 10/28/2011 7:32:26 AM PDT by Jagermonster (TANSTAAFL)
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To: stuartcr
He can also create fairies, elves, zombies, space aliens, transformers and real magicians...

Straight into the lake of fire for you, buddy.
76 posted on 10/28/2011 7:33:15 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: ETL

“using known decay rates”

I believe a problem with this assumes (and we all know what “ass u me” means) that decay rates have always been constant. We have no idea what decay rates were in the distant past. We just ASSUME they were the same as today.


77 posted on 10/28/2011 7:33:30 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: RoadGumby

Stuart (and I) are not mocking God Mr. Gumby. We are mocking YOU.


78 posted on 10/28/2011 7:33:34 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: muawiyah
You were not supposed to tell them that!!!

CA....

79 posted on 10/28/2011 7:33:39 AM PDT by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: RoadGumby

No, he’s mocking you and unless you’re God I don’t think he as anything to worry about.


80 posted on 10/28/2011 7:34:18 AM PDT by montyspython (This thread needs more cowbell)
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To: Jagermonster
Come now, this is a high-class establishment here. The word you're looking for is "Coprolites."

Sorry. I'm an ignorant brute.
81 posted on 10/28/2011 7:34:39 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: RoadGumby

Correct, much of it is written by many, some unknown,King James edited it, and shoved down our throats as absolute truth.


82 posted on 10/28/2011 7:34:49 AM PDT by eastforker
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To: mnehring
Well done mnehring! Best description of radiometric isotopic dating I have seen at FR.
83 posted on 10/28/2011 7:35:22 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: Liberty1970
Daddy to Lily Ann, born 3:50 AM, 10/15/11, 9 lb/4 oz. of joy!

Congrats!!

84 posted on 10/28/2011 7:35:34 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Things are so bad now, Kenyans are saying Obama was born in the USA.)
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To: ml/nj
Dino fossils are dated by the rock layers the fossils are found in. The rock layers are dated by the fossils they contain. If this seems like circular reasoning to you, that is because it is circular reasoning.

Fossil containing sedimentary rock layers are rarely dated directly. Rocks that can be dated via radiometric dating must be either igneous (volcanic) or metamorphic (geologically altered through partial melting and high pressure conditions). Scientists date such rocks above and below the fossil containing layers in order to confine the date of the fossils.

85 posted on 10/28/2011 7:35:53 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: John Valentine

Thats expected, and as usual I’m not disappointed.

But that does not change the truth of the Bible.


86 posted on 10/28/2011 7:36:11 AM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: CGalen

Your comments make absolutely no sense.


87 posted on 10/28/2011 7:36:11 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: RoadGumby

I won’t argue with you because I know from experience no matter what I say it will not change your opinion. God is minimized when your view of him is limited to a Earth centered viewpoint. I like to think of him being bigger than that. Somehow I doubt he’ll be upset with me if I think more of him than what was written by a man a couple of thousand years ago (with little understanding of time/space).


88 posted on 10/28/2011 7:36:42 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: John Valentine

Next thing you know RoadApple will be claiming the earth was really flat at one point as the early Church believed but made it spherical once the humans got wise to him.


89 posted on 10/28/2011 7:36:52 AM PDT by montyspython (This thread needs more cowbell)
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To: eastforker

It is held out as truth, I see no throat shoving, though that WILL come in the faith-vacuum being created. The shoving will involve the Koran and you’ll probably wish for better days.


90 posted on 10/28/2011 7:37:50 AM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: Ancient Drive

Is it possible that God created the earth “old”? I mean, when He created it, maybe it came chock full of dinosaur bones, fossils, petrified trees, and the whole nine yards... The bottom line is that God created the heavens and the earth and all that is in them. He created man in His own image and likeness. Man sinned and needed a savior. Jesus came, lived among us, was crucified, died, and rose again to save us. Timelines…? …not much to get hung up about. God’s creation is fascinating, though.


91 posted on 10/28/2011 7:40:07 AM PDT by folkquest
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To: RockyMtnMan
We have just entered...


92 posted on 10/28/2011 7:42:15 AM PDT by montyspython (This thread needs more cowbell)
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To: montyspython

I only claim the truth of what God says. No where does it say the earth is flat, so why claim it.

Try sticking to facts.


93 posted on 10/28/2011 7:42:33 AM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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Our Heritage


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The Men Left Bloody Footprints In The Snow..............

94 posted on 10/28/2011 7:43:18 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: folkquest

Prochronic

A wonderfully backwards idea proposed by the Victorian natural historian Philip Henry Gosse in response to the growing evidence from archaeology that the Earth was much older than the 4000 years that were recorded in the Bible.

Gosse’s idea was that God would have created the Earth 4000 years ago with the appearance that it was much older, in fact he would have had to create it that way.

A chicken in the Garden of Eden would have been created whole, but a biologist studying it might infer that it had been hatched from an egg many months before. Those illusory months are prochronic, outside of time, as opposed to the diachronic passing of time the chicken had experienced since its actual creation.

The problem with Gosse’s theory is that it is actually radically skeptical: no evidence could ever overthrow it. In fact, Gosse’s theory was given a strange kind of boost by Bertrand Russell who concluded from arguments of entropy that it is most likely the universe was created a second ago.

http://simonamey.com/Philosophy/Entry.php?entryid=209


95 posted on 10/28/2011 7:43:58 AM PDT by samtheman (Newt? Can you do it? Can you repudiate your time on the Pelosi couch?)
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To: sodpoodle

Some paleontologists date the rocks where the fossils are found.
Other paleontologists date the fossils where the rocks are found.
Still other paleontologists date Helen Thomas and just asked her.......


96 posted on 10/28/2011 7:44:52 AM PDT by Red Badger (Obama's number one economics advisor must be a Magic Eight Ball.................)
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To: RoadGumby

Yes let’s stick to facts, you’re a loon.


97 posted on 10/28/2011 7:45:48 AM PDT by montyspython (This thread needs more cowbell)
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To: samtheman

...all I am trying to say is that faith and science don’t always have to collide.


98 posted on 10/28/2011 7:46:08 AM PDT by folkquest
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To: Red Badger

LOL!!!

I thought you would have an answer;)


99 posted on 10/28/2011 7:46:20 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Cain - touching the better angels of our nature. Newt - knowledge is power.)
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To: RoadGumby

Perhaps He didn’t do what you think though?

As you said, it’s a matter of faith. Especially since none of it can be proven, and since we both agree that God can do anything, maybe we’re both right, or wrong?


100 posted on 10/28/2011 7:46:40 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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