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Baal, Jupiter, and other God(s) of Romney's LDS sect of Mormonism.

Posted on 10/29/2011 10:14:55 AM PDT by SENTINEL

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and RINO Presidential candidate Mitt Romney have brought the many aspects of the breakaway LDS sect of Mormonism into the media spotlight. Energetic accusations and counter accusations, denials, coverup and obfuscation rule the discussion, all he while the forest is missed for the trees.

I present here the most shocking evidence yet brought to bear against the christianity claims of mormons.

Mormons believe Baal and Jupiter helped create the universe.

A graven image of Baal at the Nauvoo Illinois LDS Temple.

This is a photo of the very Jupiter Talisman that Emma Smith, Joseph's widow, claimed was his most prized possession and was in his pocket the day he died.

Just a little "light reading" from the breakaway LDS sect's version of Mormonism's Book of Abraham proves that mormons, like buddists, hindus, ancient greeks, egyptians and other babylonian mystery religion offshoots believe in multiple gods.

Abraham Chapter 4:

1 And then the Lord said: Let us go down. And they went down at the beginning, and they, that is the Gods, organized and formed the heavens and the earth.

2 And the earth, after it was formed, was empty and desolate, because they had not formed anything but the earth; and darkness reigned upon the face of the deep, and the Spirit of the Gods was brooding upon the face of the waters.

3 And they (the Gods) said: Let there be light; and there was light.

4 And they (the Gods) comprehended the light, for it was bright; and they divided the light, or caused it to be divided, from the darkness.

5 And the Gods called the light Day, and the darkness they called Night. And it came to pass that from the evening until morning they called night; and from the morning until the evening they called day; and this was the first, or the beginning, of that which they called day and night.

6 And the Gods also said: Let there be an expanse in the midst of the waters, and it shall divide the waters from the waters.

7 And the Gods ordered the expanse, so that it divided the waters which were under the expanse from the waters which were above the expanse; and it was so, even as they ordered.

8 And the Gods called the expanse, Heaven. And it came to pass that it was from evening until morning that they called night; and it came to pass that it was from morning until evening that they called day; and this was the second atime that they called night and day.

9 And the Gods ordered, saying: Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto bone place, and let the earth come up dry; and it was so as they ordered;

10 And the Gods pronounced the dry land, Earth; and the gathering together of the waters, pronounced they, aGreat Waters; and the Gods saw that they were obeyed.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Other Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: baal; flds; harryreid; inman; josephsmith; jupiter; lds; mittromney; mormon; reid; romney
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To: Gamecock

“Here’s a thought: then stay out of the religion forum.”

There is no religion in a forum that allows hatred for a particular religion to be spewed forth virtually every day of the week on these threads. That ain’t religion in my book. It’s just vile.


81 posted on 10/29/2011 2:18:16 PM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: MitchSouthFla.; wagglebee

The old “Christianity makes amazing claims, too” approach, eh?

Mary WAS a virgin when she had her baby.

OK, you bring me your best evidence for the actual existence of Zeus, and I’ll bring you my evidence for the supernatural birth, life, death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus.

Let’s see whose evidence can cause wonder.


82 posted on 10/29/2011 2:29:39 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: FryingPan101
Thank God I live in America where you can worship a cow if you want to.....or a tree. I love this country more at moments when the freedom to worship any god you chose is under attack than I do at any other time.

I'd rather be beheaded for not kissing caesar's ring.

83 posted on 10/29/2011 2:39:31 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: MitchSouthFla.

“yea, and there are some people out there who actually believe Mary was a virgin when she had her baby. Go figure.”

She was a virgin when Jesus was born but she had several children after that by Joseph.


84 posted on 10/29/2011 2:40:12 PM PDT by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: flaglady47

Well, if FR is too vile for you, why don’t you just take a freaking hike.


85 posted on 10/29/2011 2:42:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: SENTINEL

“I disagree with you about what Christianity is, it is a relationship with Christ, not a religion. I have that relationship. Please trust my motives and methods. “

You have the Real Thing.


86 posted on 10/29/2011 2:43:14 PM PDT by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: 50mm; MitchSouthFla.; Old Sarge
Troll MitchSouthFla. gets the ZOT!

I can't say I'm sorry to see that one go.

I've seen it around here the past few days imperiously telling established FReepers how to post, slamming Christians and promoting RINOs.

Buh-bye, troll.

87 posted on 10/29/2011 2:43:59 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: 50mm

Excellent. He was really asking for it.


88 posted on 10/29/2011 2:46:11 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Allegra; Old Sarge

This troll is definitely a retread. I just can’t quite place where I’ve seen the posting style before.


89 posted on 10/29/2011 2:51:20 PM PDT by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: Jim Robinson

“Well, if FR is too vile for you, why don’t you just take a freaking hike.”

I was speaking to the religious threads that slam a particular religion quite religiously. I never said FR is vile, ever. But if you want to interpret my comments as such then I guess you will. Whatever, I’m losing heart as to people being just basically fair anyhow. Fairness doesn’t seem to enter into the equation. Do as you will. I don’t care anymore.


90 posted on 10/29/2011 2:51:54 PM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: MitchSouthFla.
the hate mormon stuff is getting tired.

Hate: again, hallucinating. I have no reason to have anything against any individual mormon. Perhaps because I don't hang around with any.

But the proposition that the religion makes strikes me as ridiculous.

And this is where I leave our discussion, FRiend.

91 posted on 10/29/2011 3:18:41 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: flaglady47

just who is posting under the name “Jim Robinson” these days?


92 posted on 10/29/2011 3:19:38 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: the invisib1e hand; Jim Robinson

Courtesy on FR is that you ping someone when speaking of them. #92, JR.


93 posted on 10/29/2011 3:22:51 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (If other churches were dead dunking mormons to save them mormons would be furious.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Why do some choose to remain unevenly yoke when it is evident to post such vile contempt?

....surely it is until death do we part and not for all of eternity!


95 posted on 10/29/2011 3:27:48 PM PDT by restornu (Love One Another)
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To: chesley

Heard what exactly about Nimrod?


96 posted on 10/29/2011 3:32:10 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: SENTINEL

How can you be a “lifelong FORMER mormon”?

Does that mean you WERE a Mormon in the pre-mortal life?


97 posted on 10/29/2011 3:33:37 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Insanity runs in my family. It practically gallops. -- Mortimer Brewster)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Basically what you said. about he and Semiramis being worshipped in ancient Babylon. Can’t find it in the Bible


98 posted on 10/29/2011 3:59:59 PM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: SENTINEL

“In the heat of the Missouri “Mormon War” of 1838, Joseph Smith made the following claim, “I will be to this generation a second Mohammed, whose motto in treating for peace was ‘the Alcoran [Koran] or the Sword.’ So shall it eventually be with us—‘Joseph Smith or the Sword!’”


Mohammed and Joseph Smith both had humble beginnings. Neither had formal religious connections or upbringing, and both were relatively uneducated. Both founded new religions by creating their own scriptures. In fact, followers of both prophets claim these scriptures are miracles since their authors were the most simple and uneducated of men.[2]

Both prophets claim of having angel visitations, and of receiving divine revelation to restore pure religion to the earth again. Mohammed was told that both Jews and Christians had long since corrupted their scriptures and religion. In like manner, Joseph Smith was told that all of Christianity had become corrupt, and that consequently the Bible itself was no longer reliable. In both cases, this corruption required a complete restoration of both scripture and religion. Nothing which preceded either prophet could be relied upon any longer. Both prophets claim they were used of God to restore eternal truths which once existed on earth, but had been lost due to human corruption.

Both prophets created new scripture which borrowed heavily from the Bible, but with a substantially new “spin.” In his Koran, Mohammed appropriates a number of Biblical themes and characters—but he changes the complete sense of many passages, claiming to “correct” the Bible. In so doing he changes many doctrines, introducing his own in their place. In like manner, Joseph Smith created the Book of Mormon, much of which is plagiarized directly from the King James Bible. Interestingly, the Book of Mormon claims that this same Bible has been substantially corrupted and is therefore unreliable. In addition, Joseph Smith went so far as to actually create his own version of the Bible itself, the “Inspired Version,” in which he both adds and deletes significant portions of text, claiming he is “correcting” it. In so doing he also changes many doctrines, introducing his own in their place.

As a part of their new scriptural “spin,” both prophets saw themselves as prophesied in scripture, and both saw themselves as a continuation of a long line of Biblical prophets. Mohammed saw himself as a continuation of the ministry of Moses and Jesus. Joseph Smith saw himself as a successor to Enoch, Melchizedek, Joseph and Moses. Joseph Smith actually wrote himself into his own version of the Bible—by name.

Both prophets held up their own scripture as superior to the Bible. Mohammed claimed that the Koran was a perfect copy of the original which was in heaven. The Koran is therefore held to be absolutely perfect, far superior to the Bible and superceding it. In like manner, Joseph Smith also made the following claim. “I told the Brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding its precepts, than by any other book.”[3]

Despite their claim that the Bible was corrupt, both prophets admonished their followers to adhere to its teachings. An obvious contradiction, this led to selective acceptance of some portions and wholesale rejection of others. As a result, the Bible is accepted by both groups of followers only to the extent that it agrees with their prophet’s own superior revelation.

Both Mohammed and Joseph Smith taught that true salvation was to be found only in their respective religions. Those who would not accept their message were considered “infidels,” pagans or Gentiles. In so doing, both prophets became the enemy of genuine Christianity, and have led many people away from the Christ of the Bible.

Both prophets encountered fierce opposition to their new religions and had to flee from town to town because of threats on their lives. Both retaliated to this opposition by forming their own militias. Both ultimately set up their own towns as model societies.

Both Mohammed and Joseph Smith left unclear instructions about their successors. The majority of Mohammed’s followers, Sunni Muslims, believe they were to elect their new leader, whereas the minority, Shiite Muslims, believe Mohammed’s son was to be their next leader. Similarly, the majority of Joseph Smith’s followers, Mormons, believed their next prophet should have been the existing leader of their quorum of twelve apostles, whereas the minority, RLDS, believed Joseph Smith’s own son should have been their next prophet. Differences on this issue, and many others, have created substantial tension between these rival groups of each prophet.

Mohammed taught that Jesus was just another of a long line of human prophets, of which he was the last. He taught that he was superior to Christ and superceded Him. In comparison, Joseph Smith also made the following claim.

“I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him, but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.”[4] In light of these parallels, perhaps Joseph Smith’s claim to be a second Mohammed unwittingly became his most genuine prophecy of all.
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[1] Joseph Smith made this statement at the conclusion of a speech in the public square at Far West, Missouri on October 14, 1838. This particular quote is documented in Fawn M. Brodie, No Man Knows My History, second edition, (New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1971), p. 230–231. Fawn Brodie’s footnote regarding this speech contains valuable information, and follows. “Except where noted, all the details of this chapter [16] are taken from the History of the [Mormon] Church. This speech, however, was not recorded there, and the report given here is based upon the accounts of seven men. See the affidavits of T.B. Marsh, Orson Hyde, George M. Hinkle, John Corrill, W.W. Phelps, Samson Avard, and Reed Peck in Correspondence, Orders, etc., pp. 57–9, 97–129. The Marsh and Hyde account, which was made on October 24, is particularly important. Part of it was reproduced in History of the [Mormon] Church, Vol. III, p. 167. See also the Peck manuscript, p. 80. Joseph himself barely mentioned the speech in his history; see Vol. III, p. 162.”

[2] John Ankerberg & John Weldon, The Facts on Islam, (Eugene, OR: Harvest House Publishers, 1998), pp.8–9. Eric Johnson, Joseph Smith & Muhammed, (El Cajon, CA: Mormonism Research Ministry, 1998), pp. 6–7.

[3] Documentary History of the [Mormon] Church, vol.4, pp.461.

[4] Documentary History of the [Mormon] Church, vol.6, pp.408–409.

(Decker, Ed, My Kingdom Come: The Mormon Quest for Godhood, Xulon Press, 2007)


99 posted on 10/29/2011 4:04:23 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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