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Mormon Halloween bash bans 'cross-gender' costumes ^ | 10/30/2011 |

Posted on 10/30/2011 11:46:38 AM PDT by Morgana

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) - A recent Halloween party hosted by a Mormon church ward in Utah angered at least one resident after fliers specified no "cross-gender" costumes.

The Salt Lake Tribune reports ( that meant no girls dressed as Harry Potter or boys as Lady Liberty at the party in Sandy.

Raquel Smith says she was "appalled" when she read the flier taped to her door. She is not a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

The flier urged children to "wear costumes" but noted, "please no masks or cross-gender dressing."

Smith calls it "fear-mongering and hate-driven."

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TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Other Christian
KEYWORDS: booooooo; costume; crossdressing; halloween; homosexualagenda; mormon; mormons; religion

1 posted on 10/30/2011 11:46:42 AM PDT by Morgana
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To: Slings and Arrows; Chode; little jeremiah; Tax-chick

I agree this is so wrong. The one day a year “cross dressers” would look normal? They ban normalcy? That is just wrong. /sarc

2 posted on 10/30/2011 11:48:10 AM PDT by Morgana ("Since using your shampoo my hair has come alive!" ----Medusa)
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To: Morgana

No cross dressing kiddie kostumes?

Queer undies will certainly be in knots over that rule!

3 posted on 10/30/2011 11:53:16 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles.)
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To: Morgana
"LDS Bishop Dennis Toone, whose ward hosted the party, says he thought it was church policy but it wasn't. He says anyone who didn't like the rule didn't have to come."

4 posted on 10/30/2011 11:54:25 AM PDT by DemforBush (Serpentine, Shel! Serpentine!)
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To: Morgana

Just my two cents worth but what?! My daughter (when she was four) dressed up in a football costume. She was adorable. Would that be considered as cross dressing?!

5 posted on 10/30/2011 11:54:37 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Morgana

What an idiot. I guess people aren’t going to be allowed to express moral opinions soon.

6 posted on 10/30/2011 12:02:03 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: momtothree; All
A fine line is it not? I figure she was cute too! The way I see it if it is done in the spirit of Halloween then what is the problem? I understand them not wanting agendas pushed. Even if someone shows up as a "cross dresser" 9 times out of 10 at a Halloween party they are poking fun at that not actually wanting to be that. Think about it. Did you ever go to a school where at homecoming the football players dressed up as cheerleaders and the cheerleaders as football players during the events that week? I remember that. Funny too, but football players in terrible wigs and red lipstick acting stupid. Same thing really if you think about it. Bugs Bunny the Drag Queen Pictures, Images and Photos
7 posted on 10/30/2011 12:03:53 PM PDT by Morgana ("Since using your shampoo my hair has come alive!" ----Medusa)
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To: momtothree

Not unless it was specifically the NFL I guess. There are women football players in high schools and stuff in this country. One of them became Homecoming Queen on the same day she kicked a winning field goal. :p

8 posted on 10/30/2011 12:04:02 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Morgana

People always have the choice of not going to THAT party.

9 posted on 10/30/2011 12:05:57 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Morgana
Raquel Smith says she was "appalled" when she read the flier taped to her door.

The faggots are relentless with their agenda to push faggotry on the rest of the world as being normal.

10 posted on 10/30/2011 12:08:13 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: GeronL; Morgana

She likes to watch football. Now.. it could be that her older brother plays the sport and her Daddy likes to watch the Ravens. I’m thinking that many little girls will choose “masculine” costumes because they are more interesting. I went to the elementary school Halloween parade on Friday and there were little girls dressed as soldiers, firemen, policemen, etc. Now, what I DIDN’T SEE was boys dressed a ballerinas, princesses, Little Red Riding Hood etc.. Now... if she actually asked to play football? No. Another sport is fine but not football.

11 posted on 10/30/2011 12:10:20 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: GladesGuru
Queer undies will certainly be in knots over that rule!

Male panties in a wad...

These "fruitcakes" (no pun intended) can do what they want with their life but they just need to keep their warped, demented selves out of my face!

12 posted on 10/30/2011 12:12:19 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: momtothree

They can’t all be lesbians. lol.

13 posted on 10/30/2011 12:12:19 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Morgana
Smith calls it "fear-mongering and hate-driven."

Alec, give me "racist" for 100 please to complete the row....

Talking points are used in place of actual thought.

14 posted on 10/30/2011 12:15:56 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: GeronL

“Not unless it was specifically the NFL..”

Goodness.. she likes Michael Oher. After watching the Blind Side, she thinks he is neat. Now.. what is hysterical with this is if you saw her (a skinny, little Asian girl that dressed up like Oher).. you would laugh.

15 posted on 10/30/2011 12:17:19 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: Morgana
shakes head...
16 posted on 10/30/2011 12:25:14 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Morgana

Smith calls it “fear-mongering and hate-driven.”

Because you live in America you are free to be an idiot and make that statement..
I call it common sense and decency....

17 posted on 10/30/2011 12:49:17 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Morgana
angered at least one resident

And at most one resident, I suspect.

18 posted on 10/30/2011 1:57:04 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Dan, is that your eyeball on the floor?)
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To: momtothree
there were little girls dressed as soldiers, firemen, policemen

Out in the Real World, there are real female soldiers (and Seamen!), firefighters, police officers ... and, I suppose, ninjas and zombies.

19 posted on 10/30/2011 1:59:26 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Dan, is that your eyeball on the floor?)
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To: Tax-chick

I’m thinking that there are very few male only roles that a little girl would dress up in... A boy, IMHO, wouldn’t want to be a princess or a sprite (I would use the world fairy... double meaning and all but won’t)

20 posted on 10/30/2011 3:10:44 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: Morgana

21 posted on 10/30/2011 5:06:04 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Morgana

Don’t like the rules, don’t go to the party. Why whine to the press? I guess someone wanted a few minutes of “fame”.

22 posted on 10/31/2011 8:38:07 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: DemforBush

“He says anyone who didn’t like the rule didn’t have to come.”

Agreed. But that statement makes way too much common sense for the contemporary leftist.

23 posted on 10/31/2011 7:56:06 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: All


Well, on a religious forum, wouldn’t it be easier to just end it with a passage from the BIBLE ( maybe not!! But, since I dont see one, everyone read this). It helps in discussions of religious “ what to do “ conversations.

Deuteronomy 22:5
Deuteronomy 22:5 KJV -King James Version
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man neither shall a man put on a womans garment for all that do so are abomination unto the.

Deuteronomy 22:5
New International Version (NIV)
5 A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this.

Deuteronomy 22:5 ( New Jerusalem catholic bible)
5 ‘A woman must not dress like a man, nor a man like a woman; anyone who does this is detestable to Yahweh your God.

All the bibles will say the same.
And since this is an Old testament law, then it applies to Judaism ( Torah) and Muslims ( the Quran). They both believe in the father ABRAHAM. So it applies to the majority of people in this and many other countries.

It’s unfortunate through history that many dont pay attention to JESUS work on this earth. HE had many arguments in synagogues ( places of worship) and in front of political, scholastic, and authoritative people.

While in front of these people, HE tried to explain to those that were blindly following their laws and ways that they are trying to take them from GOD. They are known as Pharisees ( but in the WORD are also called by their jobs: lawyers, teachers, doctors, etc....).


LUKE 11:37-54
37 He had just finished speaking when a Pharisee invited him to dine at his house. He went in and sat down at table.
38 The Pharisee saw this and was surprised that he had not first washed before the meal.
39 But the Lord said to him, ‘You Pharisees! You clean the outside of cup and plate, while inside yourselves you are filled with extortion and wickedness.
40 Fools! Did not he who made the outside make the inside too?
41 Instead, give alms from what you have and, look, everything will be clean for you.
42 But alas for you Pharisees, because you pay your tithe of mint and rue and all sorts of garden herbs and neglect justice and the love of God! These you should have practised, without neglecting the others.
43 Alas for you Pharisees, because you like to take the seats of honour in the synagogues and to be greeted respectfully in the market squares!
44 Alas for you, because you are like the unmarked tombs that people walk on without knowing it!’
45 A lawyer then spoke up. ‘Master,’ he said, ‘when you speak like this you insult us too.’
46 But he said, ‘Alas for you lawyers as well, because you load on people burdens that are unendurable, burdens that you yourselves do not touch with your fingertips.
47 ‘Alas for you because you build tombs for the prophets, the people your ancestors killed!
48 In this way you both witness to what your ancestors did and approve it; they did the killing, you do the building.
49 ‘And that is why the Wisdom of God said, “I will send them prophets and apostles; some they will slaughter and persecute,
50 so that this generation will have to answer for every prophet’s blood that has been shed since the foundation of the world,
51 from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who perished between the altar and the Temple.” Yes, I tell you, this generation will have to answer for it all.
52 ‘Alas for you lawyers who have taken away the key of knowledge! You have not gone in yourselves and have prevented others from going in who wanted to.’
53 When he left there, the scribes and the Pharisees began a furious attack on him and tried to force answers from him on innumerable questions,
54 lying in wait to catch him out in something he might say.

Now of course. Some will say, “ well that’s back then”. Funny how many people forget that we people who are supposed to be “ good or religious or spiritual” pro-create. So does evil. THey also procreate and teach their children their ways. And they are still here today. It was a concept that took me a long time to want to accept. But, yes, there are people that love to be evil and push for evil ways. Like Satan, they are subtle and sometimes obvious; but always confusion. That’s why JESUS said to BEWARE of them.

They bring the worship of man to themselves before GOD, and give GOD personal days ( holidays, traditions, and occassions) of worship instead of everday. YES, and they will know GOD’s WORD, do some of the work HE says to do in order to fool us, and even speak HIS HOLY NAME!!
Remember that GOD said for us to have no idols before HIM! Dressing up in a favorite character or thing is an idol.

The best way to know if we are in the right is just to follow what JESUS did. Jesus celebrating or doing this day at 12 years old?? No.
HE may be out there talking to people, but HE would not be dressed up. JESUS is funny in this way. HE would be in the party of the evil or confused people, but not doing what the evil or confused people are doing. This is what is so great about HIS love. HE goes in the fire/evil, doesnt do it, and talks to people to come out of it or to wake up!!

JOHN 12:42-43
42 And yet there were many who did believe in him, even among the leading men, but they did not admit it, because of the Pharisees and for fear of being banned from the synagogue:
43 they put human glory before God’s glory.

Over the decades many things have changed. Just look at language on the media. Things our parents told us not to say we can see being said anywhere now. GOD tells us not to swear and more, and we can see that being broken all the time.

So the more weak we become and accept the adversaries different ways of bending GOD’s laws, the more we actually show our kids, friends, and family that it’s okay to do it themselves. And remember, we have to train children towards GOD or their blood is on our hands.

6 Give a lad a training suitable to his character and, even when old, he will not go back on it.

If we dont warn people away from evil:
Ezekial 3:18
18 If I say to someone wicked, “You will die,” and you do not warn this person; if you do not speak to warn someone wicked to renounce evil and so save his life, it is the wicked person who will die for the guilt, but I shall hold you responsible for that death.

Sin always looks beautiful in the beginning until it eats us up and makes us chase it. THen we cry for GOD to get us out of it. Remember he is the angel of light, the prettiest angel, so, he comes in ways that appeal to us. BUT remember JESUS IS THE LIGHT!! THEre is the difference. But, that is why JESUS says to BEWARE because the angel of light can look like the light, but he is not. I pray all understand this.

Another thing for believers ( for who that is that is here). Remember not to name evil. That is what the adversary wants. Remember all things in matter of the flesh is just sin or perversion. Naming the sin gives it value. It gives it truth. And there is no truth in sin/evil. So, even in hating sin, remember not to name it. The evil one perpetuates names for what he does, because he wants us to be seperated by sins so that it is harder to fight them. Because then we think we have a specific problem and forget that JESUS took all sins on the cross. BELIEVERS please remember this. I know there are many ministers, priest, evangelists, rabbis, Imans, etc....( that focus on this. Believe or not, many have been taught to do this, or do this just to bring glory, fame, and attention to themselves. Glory in form for their flesh, money, or just fame. This is a move of the Pharisees. BEWARE as JESUS said. That’s why JESUS says, “ MANY ARE CALLED!! CHOSEN ARE FEW!!”, also HE says that many will say they cast out demons in HIS name and called on HIM, and HE will say HE never knew them and all they did was work evil.

Many called few chosen:
Matthew 22:14-15
14 For many are invited but not all are chosen.’
15 Then the Pharisees went away to work out between them how to trap him in what he said.

Many will call thinking they did JESUS work and HE will say HE doesnt know them:
Matthew 7:20-23
20 I repeat, you will be able to tell them by their fruits.
21 ‘It is not anyone who says to me, “Lord, Lord,” who will enter the kingdom of Heaven, but the person who does the will of my Father in heaven.
22 When the day comes many will say to me, “Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, drive out demons in your name, work many miracles in your name?”
23 Then I shall tell them to their faces: I have never known you; away from me, all evil doers!

remember that Children who play 18yrs old may come pass these sights and dont need to see labels or names of sins that they dont know or never committed ( as well as adults). Seeing the name brings the curiousity, which pushes temptations, which then pushes the action or thought of sin. BEWARE. Just train them strong in GOD’s way by first being a living example of the WORD, so that when you read the WORD or when they read the WORD they can see it in living proof. This is the most important thing. Bring them to church, but dont leave it on just the church building to show them they way of a believer. Beleivers must also be the example out of the church and each one must be an individual church throughout their daily lives. Always relying on “ two or more gathered in HIS name there HE is”. HE is everywhere which is 1 and each believer is the other 1, which makes 2 the more is who we spread the WORD to.

Those that are here to purposely promote evil?? I pray GOD stops you and you learn the love of CHRIST JESUS. JESUS is the way to love, the truth to follow, and the life to lead. HE is the light of the world. HIS love is better than anything.

BELIEVERS, may we pray today and everyday for ourselves to stay covered by HIS LOVE. May we pray for those trapped in evil and are blindly following evil. May be pray that they be brought to follow CHRIST with eyes on the FATHER! Lastly may we pray to be tolerant and loving of those that truly love evil. JESUS told us to love our enemies and our neighbors. So we must.

Love your enemies
Luke 6:27-36
27 ‘But I say this to you who are listening: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,
28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who treat you badly.
29 To anyone who slaps you on one cheek, present the other cheek as well; to anyone who takes your cloak from you, do not refuse your tunic.
30 Give to everyone who asks you, and do not ask for your property back from someone who takes it.
31 Treat others as you would like people to treat you.
32 If you love those who love you, what credit can you expect? Even sinners love those who love them.
33 And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit can you expect? For even sinners do that much.
34 And if you lend to those from whom you hope to get money back, what credit can you expect? Even sinners lend to sinners to get back the same amount.
35 Instead, love your enemies and do good to them, and lend without any hope of return. You will have a great reward, and you will be children of the Most High, for he himself is kind to the ungrateful and the wicked.
36 ‘Be compassionate just as your Father is compassionate.



24 posted on 11/05/2011 8:45:04 PM PDT by jesus4life
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