Posted on 10/31/2011 1:04:53 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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Bookmark for more complete read and contemplation to its significance to my own weak and at times wavering faith in Christ alone.
It didn’t work out well for Jan Hus a century earlier.
..”Lord please increase my faith”
Did you know that someone said to Luther ..”you mean we are saved by just having faith”...Luther replied ..”who said faith is easy”...
Thank you for posting this!
R.C. Sproul ping!
Faith Alone is not in the bible, I believe? In my own personal study of the text I haven’t come across it. Please correct me if I’m incorrect. :)
Catholic translations prior to Luther spoke of faith alone at Romans 3:28. Hence, the Nuremberg Bible of 1483 had “allein durch den glauben,” while the Italian Bibles of Geneva in 1476 and even 1538 had “per sola fede.”
Some Luther quotes on this
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“If your papist wishes to make a great fuss about the word sola (alone), say this to him: “Dr. Martin Luther will have it so, and he says that a papist and a donkey are the same thing.” …For we are not going to be students and disciples of the papists. Rather, we will become their teachers and judges. For once, we also are going to be proud and brag, with these blockheads; and just as Paul brags against his mad raving saints, I will brag against these donkeys of mine! Are they doctors? So am I. Are they scholars? So am I. Are they preachers? So am I. Are they theologians? So am I. Are they debaters? So am I. Are they philosophers? So am I. Are they logicians? So am I. Do they lecture? So do I. Do they write books? So do I.”
“I will go even further with my boasting: I can expound the psalms and the prophets, and they cannot. I can translate, and they cannot. I can read the Holy Scriptures, and they cannot. I can pray, they cannot. Coming down to their level, “I can use their rhetoric and philosophy better than all of them put together. Plus I know that not one of them understands his Aristotle. If any one of them can correctly understand one preface or chapter of Aristotle, I will eat my hat! No, I am not overdoing it, for I have been schooled in and have practiced their science from my youth. I recognize how deep and broad it is. They, too, are well aware that I can do everything they can do. Yet they treat me as a stranger in their discipline, these incurable fellows, as if I had just arrived this morning and had never seen or heard what they teach and know. How they do brilliantly parade around with their science, teaching me what I outgrew twenty years ago! To all their noise and shouting I sing, with the harlot, “I have known for seven years that horseshoe nails are iron.”
“Let this be the answer to your first question. Please do not give these donkeys any other answer to their useless braying about that word sola than simply this: “Luther will have it so, and he says that he is a doctor above all the doctors of the pope.” Let it rest there. I will from now on hold them in contempt, and have already held them in contempt, as long as they are the kind of people (or rather donkeys) that they are.”
"Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law." (KJV)
But what law is referred to here in this passage?
Rom. 5:1, "therefore having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,"
Romans 9:30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. 31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. 32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
Gal. 2:16, "nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law shall no flesh be justified."
Phil. 3:9, "and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith."
What Catholic translations would these be? Care to specify?
The Vulgate has this:
“arbitramur enim iustificari hominem per fidem sine operibus legis”
per fidem. Not sola fidem. Sola appears nowhere in the Latin.
Might be useful to read” Hitlers Pope “
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/hitlerspope.htm
or maybe look at the current pope that was a member of the Hitler Youth movement
I was a Catholic child in Catholic schools post WW II and I was taught the Jews crucified Christ..and it was not taught with “love”
Let he that is without sin cast the 1st stone
That just points out that God does great things to His glory with sometimes evil men. One would be long engaged to discover all the instances where His greatness was illustrated through wicked men. Even evil countries, dictators, and religions.
You have access to the original bibles from1400-1500 ??? You must have some library
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Amen !!
I seem to remember a man chosen by Jesus denying Him 3 times...
Pro 16:4 The LORD hath made all [things] for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.
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