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"THE PRECIOUS BLOOD OF CHRIST"
The Highway ^ | 11/04/2011 | Charles H. Spurgeon

Posted on 11/04/2011 12:06:23 PM PDT by RnMomof7

1. The precious blood of Christ has a REDEEMING POWER. It redeems from the law. We were all under the law which says, "This do, and live." We were slaves to it: Christ has paid the ransom price, and the law is no longer our tyrant master. We are entirely free from it. The law had a dreadful curse; it threatened that whosoever should violate one of its precepts, should die: "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us." By the fear of this curse, the law inflicted a continual dread on those who were under it; they knew they had disobeyed it, and they were all their lifetime subject to bondage, fearful lest death and destruction should come upon them at any moment: but we are not under the law, but under grace, and consequently "We have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear, but we have received the spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father."

We are not afraid of the law now; its worst thunders cannot affect us, for they are not hurled at us! Its most tremendous lightnings cannot touch us, for we are sheltered beneath the cross of Christ, where the thunder loses its terror and the lightning its fury. We read the law of God with pleasure now; we look upon it as in the ark covered with the mercy seat, and not thundering in tempests from Sinai’s fiery brow.

Happy is that man who knows his full redemption from the law, its curse, its penalty, its present dread. My brethren, the life of a Jew, happy as it was compared with that of a heathen, was perfect drudgery compared to yours and mine. He was hedged in with a thousand commands and prohibitions, his forms and ceremonies were abundant, and their details minutely arranged. He was always in danger of making himself unclean. If he sat upon a bed or upon a stool, he might be defiled; if he drank out of an earthen pitcher, or even touched the wall of a house, a leprous man might have put his hand there before him, and he would thus become defiled.

A thousand sins of ignorance were like so many hidden pits in his way; he must be perpetually in fear lest he should be cut off from the people of God. When he had done his best any one day, he knew he had not finished; no Jew could ever talk of a finished work. The bullock was offered, but he must bring another; the lamb was offered this morning, but another must be offered this evening, another tomorrow, and another the next day. The Passover is celebrated with holy rites; it must be kept in the same manner next year. The high priest has gone within the veil once, but he must go there again; the thing is never finished, it is always beginning. He never comes any nearer to the end. "The law could not make the comer thereunto perfect."

But see our position: we are redeemed from this. Our law is fulfilled, for Christ is the end of the law for righteousness; our passover is slain, for Jesus died; our righteousness is finished, for we are complete in Him; our victim is slain, our priest has gone within the veil, the blood is sprinkled; we are clean, and clean beyond any fear of defilement, "For he hath perfected for ever those that were set apart." Value this precious blood, my beloved, because thus it has redeemed you from the thraldom and bondage which the law imposed upon its votaries.

Full sermon here

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Moral Issues; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: faith; forgiveness; justification; spurgeon
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Excellent sermon on the cleansing power of the blood of Christ
1 posted on 11/04/2011 12:06:33 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Dutchboy88; Iscool; metmom; boatbums; Quix; bkaycee; Gamecock; count-your-change; Alex Murphy; ...

Christ our righteousness ping


2 posted on 11/04/2011 12:09:36 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 posted on 11/04/2011 12:22:19 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: RnMomof7

AMEN!!!! THANK YOU JESUS!!! I LOVE YOU SO MUCH, MY SAVIOUR AND REDEEMER!!!


4 posted on 11/04/2011 12:25:08 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
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To: RnMomof7

That cleansing power cleanses the whole life from sin and sinfulness.

And if we forget to repent of a sin, we’re not damned forever.

Praise God it doesn’t depend on our perfection (works).


5 posted on 11/04/2011 12:25:30 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
"And if we forget to repent of a sin, we’re not damned forever."

Wouldn't that cleansing of the unrepented sin be "Purgation"?

6 posted on 11/04/2011 12:40:13 PM PDT by Natural Law (Transubstantiation - Change we can believe in.)
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To: Natural Law

Jesus IS our ‘purgation’.


7 posted on 11/04/2011 12:57:50 PM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: Natural Law

Nope.

The sin is cleansed by forgiveness on God’s part, not suffering or works on my part.


8 posted on 11/04/2011 1:11:17 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
"The sin is cleansed..."

Purgatory, by any other name, is still Purgatory.

9 posted on 11/04/2011 1:14:55 PM PDT by Natural Law (Transubstantiation - Change we can believe in.)
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To: RnMomof7
Hi Rnmomof 7- When I did overnight deliveries or pickups in Ny. I had customers who were satanic Worshippers. They worked for Tower records. They even sold the satanic bible with Satan magazines in one section . When I would walk in the place a worker would mock Christ towards myself. I think he could sense or see into the spiritual. He knew I had the Holy Spirit .

Do you know what would confound and baffle him?

Besides main prayers for this man's soul. I would just cover the Blood of Christ over him. Well you would see so much hate in a face then retreat in a person. I would say it right in front of him. I told him he is working for the wrong person in a mental prayer. He would acknowledge with a face look then response. Truly amazing!!

Yes ! The precious Blood of Christ ! Indeed!!! Praise Jesus!!

Eternal Father, I offer You the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Your dearly beloved Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ, in atonement for our sins and those of the whole world. Amen!

10 posted on 11/04/2011 1:20:13 PM PDT by johngrace (1 John 4!- declared at every Sunday Mass.)
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To: Natural Law

Nope. Forgiveness is forgiveness.

No need to pay anything or suffer for anything.


11 posted on 11/04/2011 1:33:11 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Natural Law; RnMomof7
"Purgatory, by any other name, is still Purgatory."

No wonder Rome lives in utter darkness. The kind of twisted logic you have performed here rivals the absolute screwed up doctrines that the Roman Cult Clan manufactured out of whole cloth. No pope in Scripture, but there is a rope-a-pope in Rome. No purgatory in Scripture, but there is a purgatory in the self-made religion of Rome. No indulgences in Scripture, but there certainly were (and are) a lot of them for sale from Rome. No sacerdotalism in the Scriptures, but Rome desparately needs the men in bathrobes to absolve sin from the poor parishoners.

There is no light in Rome, only the darkness of your kind of logic. Tragic. We entreat you, leave the chains of Rome, swim back over the Tiber...the light of Christ, and His Precious Shed Blood alone, awaits. That is, if He permits you to escape.

12 posted on 11/04/2011 1:50:04 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Natural Law

Purgatory, by any name, is a satanic hallucination.

The cross is where the entire payment was made.


13 posted on 11/04/2011 2:09:07 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: editor-surveyor; Natural Law
Forgiveness is given on a God sized scale. He is not stingy with it. It's not partial forgiveness based on how much we abase ourselves to prove to Him how much we hate ourselves.

Romans 8:1-2 1There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 2For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.

Free is free. If we still have to pay for anything, it's not been forgiven and we are not free. That then makes Jesus, Paul, a whole bunch of other disciples liars, and Scripture itself liars.

14 posted on 11/04/2011 2:34:03 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Natural Law
"Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord." (Rom. 8:35-39).

There is NOTHING that can separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ. The question that must be asked is "what does 'in Christ' mean? Because once you're there, you are there to stay. Your life cannot separate you, your death cannot separate you. "Purgatory" cannot separate you. Things to come cannot separate you. That would include sins to come. Present things cannot separate you. NOTHING can separate you. IF you are IN CHRIST.

If you are NOT IN CHRIST, NOTHING can join you to the love of God.

It's all about Christ, Natural Law. And being IN Him. And He in you.

15 posted on 11/04/2011 3:06:36 PM PDT by smvoice (Who the *#@! is Ivo of Chatre & why am I being accused of not linking to his quote?)
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To: metmom; smvoice; Natural Law

“......for those who are in Christ Jesus”

how does the Bible say we get “ in Christ Jesus”?


16 posted on 11/04/2011 5:19:01 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

Those that have repented and come in faith.. have put on Christ.. this is symbolized by our baptism ....


17 posted on 11/04/2011 5:58:35 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
how does the Bible say we get “ in Christ Jesus”?

Philippians 3:8-9
8 More than that, I count all things to be loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but rubbish in order that I may gain Christ,
9 and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith

Faith alone my friend ... faith alone.

18 posted on 11/04/2011 6:11:14 PM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: editor-surveyor
Purgatory, by any name, is a satanic hallucination.

You may have said this half in jest ... but if you look at this publication ...

http://www.theworkofgod.org/Library/Purgatry/Readme.htm

... it is clear your characterization applies aptly.

19 posted on 11/04/2011 6:18:20 PM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: RnMomof7; dartuser

we have heard from men and women, let’s see what the Bible says about how we become “ in Christ”

Galatians 3:27

“for as many of you

as were BAPTIZED INTO CHRIST have put on Christ.”

Romans 6:3

“do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?”

( we know at least two who didn’t know this )

finally 1 Corinthians 12:12-13

for just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ. for by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body - jews or greeks, slaves or free - and all were made to drink of one Spirit.

Let God be true and every man a liar.


20 posted on 11/04/2011 6:27:38 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: RnMomof7

care to show me one Scripture where we are told baptism is “symbolic”?


21 posted on 11/04/2011 6:30:54 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: Natural Law
Now for the truth:

Chaplet of the Most Precious Blood
The Traditional Feast of the Most Precious Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ (Catholic Caucus)
Devotion to the Precious Blood
DOCTRINE OF THE BLOOD OF CHRIST
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,And More on the Precious Blood
Litany of the Most Precious Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ
NOTHING IS MORE POTENT AGAINST EVIL THAN PLEADING THE PRECIOUS BLOOD OF CHRIST
FORMER PENTECOSTAL RELATES MIRACLE THAT OCCURRED WITH THE PRECIOUS BLOOD
Litany of the Most Precious Blood of Jesus
St.Gaspar:Founder of the Society of the Precious Blood[AKA The Hammer of Freemasons]

22 posted on 11/04/2011 6:35:21 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; RnMomof7; dartuser

...and once again you seem to show complete ignorance of what that baptism is exactly. It is the Holy Spirit baptizing the believer into the body of Christ. Spiritual baptism, just like Spiritual circumcision. But don’t let the truth stop you from proclaiming your understanding of God’s Word. You’re on a roll now. Straight downhill, but a still a roll.


23 posted on 11/04/2011 6:37:05 PM PDT by smvoice (Who the *#@! is Ivo of Chatre & why am I being accused of not linking to his quote?)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
And you see water baptism here?
24 posted on 11/04/2011 6:43:13 PM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: smvoice

ignorance of what baptism is?

i think your arguement is with Paul ( really the Holy Spirit ) and not me.

people can read what the Scriptures say about baptism.


25 posted on 11/04/2011 6:52:59 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
So now you ought to see your error clearly ...

As I have given you the passage from Philippians that shows being "in Him" is by faith alone. And since it is impossible for an infant to excercise faith ... being "in Him" cannot be as a result of water baptism, ... which imples that the baptism mentioned in your passages CANNOT refer to water baptism.

26 posted on 11/04/2011 6:55:15 PM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: dartuser

“water baptism”? i reject the term unless you can show me where the Scriptures speak of “water baptism”.

the Scriptures i am holding in my hands only speak of “baptism”

and Ephesians 4:5 says “One Lord, one faith, one baptism”


27 posted on 11/04/2011 6:56:36 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: RnMomof7
We read the law of God with pleasure now; we look upon it as in the ark covered with the mercy seat

That line really caught my attention. The tablets of stone, the Ten Commandments, are within the Ark of the Covenant, whose top was the Mercy Seat. Just like we flee to the Throne of Grace for our redemption. Thank you for this wonderful sermon by a precious servant of God.

28 posted on 11/04/2011 6:58:48 PM PDT by boatbums ( Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
Acts 8 ...

36 And as they went along the road they came to some water; and the eunuch said, "Look! Water! What prevents me from being baptized?"
37 And Philip said, "If you believe with all your heart, you may." And he answered and said, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."
38 And he ordered the chariot to stop; and they both went down into the water, Philip as well as the eunuch; and he baptized him.

Care to rephrase your statement for the record?

29 posted on 11/04/2011 7:02:04 PM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
"people can read what the Scriptures say about WHICH baptism? You DO know there is more than ONE baptism spoken of in the Bible?

We've been through this one before, too. You seem unable or unwilling to understand the difference between water baptism, baptism IN the Holy Spirit, and baptism BY the Holy Spirit. Once again, not my problem. I'm sorry, I just cannot deal with the same ignorance of Scripture once again. If I thought you were truly searching for answers, I would take all the time necessary to show you. But the fact that you seem to be once again attempting to argue the same wrong understanding of water/Spiritual baptism tells me it's a total waste of time. Maybe someone else can help you. Prayerfully.

30 posted on 11/04/2011 7:03:21 PM PDT by smvoice (Who the *#@! is Ivo of Chatre & why am I being accused of not linking to his quote?)
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To: dartuser

Yes they baptized the eunuch in a mud hole basically, so there goes the “you don’t water to be baptized” theory


31 posted on 11/04/2011 7:07:50 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: dartuser

the verses from Phillipians say righteousness is by faith, not being placed “in Christ” the Bible is very clear this only happens by baptism.

besides, faith is a work and we know we are not saved by works. faith is something we do, therefore a work.

baptism is by the Holy Spirit, thru the Church and it is done to us, not by us.


32 posted on 11/04/2011 7:10:27 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: dartuser

i am still waiting for a verse in the Bible that says “water baptism”

i have found in the past that those that use this phrase do so in order to try and bring some other baptism into the picture.

The Bible is clear, Paul says there is only one baptism.

v38 says .......and he baptized him.

it does not say ......and he “water” baptized him.

you do believe Paul in Ephesians when he says there is “one baptism”, don’t you?


33 posted on 11/04/2011 7:14:05 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: DrewsMum

You obviously need water to be baptized in water, but as I have shown, Philippians clearly teaches that being “in Him” is by faith alone ... it has nothing to do with water baptism.


34 posted on 11/04/2011 7:16:18 PM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: smvoice

read Ephesians 4:5 and then re-read your post and then tell me who is ignorant of the Scriptures.

there is a reason when the Catholic Bishops gathered in Nicea, they said “ we acknowledge ONE baptism for the forgiveness of sins”.


35 posted on 11/04/2011 7:16:30 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; smvoice; RnMomof7
Romans 10:8-10 8But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart" (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim); 9because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Luke 18:9-14 9He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt: 10"Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.' 13But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me, a sinner!' 14I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted."

John 1:1-13 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

6There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7He came as a witness, to bear witness about the light, that all might believe through him. 8 He was not the light, but came to bear witness about the light.

9 The true light, which enlightens everyone, was coming into the world. 10He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him. 11He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him. 12But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, 13who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

36 posted on 11/04/2011 7:24:49 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; smvoice; RnMomof7

Throw yourself on the mercy of the court and quit trying to work your way to heaven.


37 posted on 11/04/2011 7:25:32 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: dartuser; DrewsMum

i have clearly shown we are “baptized into Christ”

you have two problems with your post:

1. you keep using the non-biblical term “water baptism”, why do you do this?

2. you add the word “alone” after faith that doesn’t appear in the verses, why do you add words to the Bible?


38 posted on 11/04/2011 7:25:40 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: metmom; dartuser; smvoice

those are all fine verses and all very true, of course.

but they don’t answer my question about how one is placed “INTO CHRIST”

the verses i supplied in post #20 absolutely tell us we are baptized into Chrsit.

are you denying that one is placed into Christ by baptism?


39 posted on 11/04/2011 7:28:53 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
Peter himself says that it's not water baptism, that water baptism does not save....

1 Peter 3:18-22 18For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, 19in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, 20because they formerly did not obey, when God’s patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water.

21Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, with angels, authorities, and powers having been subjected to him.

40 posted on 11/04/2011 7:30:11 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom; RnMomof7; smvoice

actually, baptism is not a work. a “work” is something you do.
baptism is by the Holy Spirit, thru the Church and it is done TO you, not BY you.

faith is a work, because it is something you do. faith is a gift from God. no one can work their way to heaven, salvation is by grace alone.


41 posted on 11/04/2011 7:32:20 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

Exactly. And that is why the baptism they acknowledged (water) was completely wrong. As is everything the RCC attempts to do Scripturally. And hence, the need for doctrines, traditions, blah, blah.


42 posted on 11/04/2011 7:32:46 PM PDT by smvoice (Who the *#@! is Ivo of Chatre & why am I being accused of not linking to his quote?)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; dartuser
besides, faith is a work and we know we are not saved by works. faith is something we do, therefore a work. baptism is by the Holy Spirit, thru the Church and it is done to us, not by us.

So, tell us. How does the Catholic receive the Holy Spirit through the church?

43 posted on 11/04/2011 7:32:59 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

Placed into Christ by water baptism? Is this what you’re pecking towards?


44 posted on 11/04/2011 7:34:27 PM PDT by smvoice (Who the *#@! is Ivo of Chatre & why am I being accused of not linking to his quote?)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
Water baptism does not save anyone. That is not how one is placed *In Christ*.

Ephesians 3:14-19 14For this reason I bow my knees before the Father, 15from whom every family in heaven and on earth is named, 16that according to the riches of his glory he may grant you to be strengthened with power through his Spirit in your inner being,

17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith—

that you, being rooted and grounded in love, 18may have strength to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, 19and to know the love of Christ that surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.
45 posted on 11/04/2011 7:37:50 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

Ahhhh! VERY good question, mm. ;)


46 posted on 11/04/2011 7:38:34 PM PDT by smvoice (Who the *#@! is Ivo of Chatre & why am I being accused of not linking to his quote?)
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To: metmom; dartuser; RnMomof7; smvoice

let’s all read verse 21 together:

“baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you......”

baptism saves us??? really? how can that be?

yes, baptism saves us, because it places us into Christ, we receive remission of our sins and we receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

so yes my friends, the Bible teaches us that baptism does save us!!

it saves us not by washing the outer man but the soul!

Paul tells us this in Titus 3:5
“he saved us, not because of deeds done by us in righteouness, but in virtue of his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit”


47 posted on 11/04/2011 7:39:25 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: smvoice

hmm, do you see the word “water” in the Nicene Creed?


48 posted on 11/04/2011 7:40:54 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: metmom

baptism. see Acts 2:38 for what Peter had to say.


49 posted on 11/04/2011 7:41:52 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: metmom; dartuser; smvoice; RnMomof7

see post #20 to learn how to be placed “into Christ”, Paul is quite clear.

“water baptism does not save anyone” again, where does the Bible speak of “water” baptism. Peter tells us baptism does save us.

what i am giving everyone is the historical, orthodox, biblical faith, believed by Christians for 2,000 years.
many may be hearing for the first time as there are many false teachers out there who deny baptismal regeneration.


50 posted on 11/04/2011 7:45:58 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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