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Is the Obama Administration Anti-Catholic?
National Catholic Register ^ | November 15, 2011 | Matthew Archbold

Posted on 11/15/2011 8:30:28 PM PST by Alex Murphy

A majority of Catholics voted for Barack Obama. And for it, we got a nice photo op at the University of Notre Dame and some ameliorating verbiage. But since then, we’ve seen a long list of actions that’s caused obvious displeasure among many Catholics, including priests and bishops.

And it has some asking if the Obama administration anti-Catholic?

For answers, let’s look at some recent actions by the administration.

Recently, The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) filed a Freedom of Information Act request to discover why the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) declined to renew a grant to them to aid victims of human trafficking. But it’s clearly because the bishops refused to refer for contraceptives and abortion.

Sarah Posner of Religion Dispatches Magazine argues that “The USCCB not getting taxpayer money doesn’t mean the government is anti-Catholic.”

So organizations don’t have a right to funding just because they’re received that funding in the past? Hmmm. That’s odd because Posner described the GOP’s efforts to cut funding to Planned Parenthood as “anti-Planned Parenthood activism of the GOP.”

So attempting to cut off funding to Planned Parenthood is anti-Planned Parenthood, but the Obama administrations cutting off funding to the USCCB is just a bureaucratic shuffle?

But if this was an isolated incident, that would be different.

Obama’s National Labor Relations Board has been running its own little Inquisition in its spare time by deciding which Catholic colleges weren’t Catholic enough so the government could tell them who they had to hire. In 2011, both Manhattan College in New York and St. Xavier University in Illinois have been victims of NLRB rulings declaring that they “lack substantial religious character.” Ha! A bit of irony there, huh?

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TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: anticatholic; antiromancatholic; catholic; obama; romancatholic
A majority of Catholics voted for Barack Obama. And for it, we got a nice photo op at the University of Notre Dame and some ameliorating verbiage. But since then, we’ve seen a long list of actions that’s caused obvious displeasure among many Catholics, including priests and bishops. And it has some asking if the Obama administration anti-Catholic?....

....Obama’s National Labor Relations Board has been running its own little Inquisition in its spare time by deciding which Catholic colleges weren’t Catholic enough so the government could tell them who they had to hire. In 2011, both Manhattan College in New York and St. Xavier University in Illinois have been victims of NLRB rulings declaring that they “lack substantial religious character.” Ha! A bit of irony there, huh?

1 posted on 11/15/2011 8:30:29 PM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

Is There a Trend in Modern Pseudo-Journalism to ask Inane Questions?


2 posted on 11/15/2011 8:32:05 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Madoff screwed the rich. Bernanke screwed us all.)
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To: Alex Murphy

The answer is “Yes”.


3 posted on 11/15/2011 8:32:28 PM PST by jdsteel (Cain vs. Not Able.......now that Sarah's out.)
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To: jdsteel

Is the Pope Catholic?


4 posted on 11/15/2011 8:35:13 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: BenKenobi

Does Pinochio have a wooden joint.


5 posted on 11/15/2011 8:36:46 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Alex Murphy

0bama is against anything good. He’s pure evil.


6 posted on 11/15/2011 8:39:02 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Alex Murphy

Well, he’s only anti-Catholic on days whose names end in “Y”.


7 posted on 11/15/2011 8:40:52 PM PST by Campion ("It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins." -- Franklin)
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To: Alex Murphy

Anti Christian.


8 posted on 11/15/2011 8:44:18 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Alex Murphy

ozero is not THE anti Christ, he just IS anti Christ.


9 posted on 11/15/2011 8:44:19 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Alex Murphy

“Is the Obama Administration Anti-Catholic?”
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Obama is a Marxist...What else would you expect?

“A majority of Catholics voted for Barack Obama. “

Well, so did a majority of all Americans.
The USSA is now full of brain dead morons
that can not think or do research outside of what they
are fed by the likes of CNN and PMSNBC.


10 posted on 11/15/2011 8:46:07 PM PST by AlexW
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To: AlexW
“A majority of Catholics voted for Barack Obama. “

Well, so did a majority of all Americans.

I think we have the winning answer here!

11 posted on 11/15/2011 8:49:48 PM PST by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2703506/posts?page=518#518)
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To: Alex Murphy
A majority of Catholics voted for Barack Obama

this says it all

12 posted on 11/15/2011 8:53:03 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: Alex Murphy

13 posted on 11/15/2011 8:53:51 PM PST by garjog
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To: AlexW
“A majority of Catholics voted for Barack Obama. “

Well, so did a majority of all Americans

Well, so did a majority of all dead ” Americans & “illegal immigrants

There, fixed it for you

14 posted on 11/15/2011 8:57:34 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: Alex Murphy

No! Just anti-G_d!


16 posted on 11/15/2011 9:01:55 PM PST by reg45 (I'm not angry that Lincoln freed the slaves. I'm angry that Franklin Roosevelt bought them back.)
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To: BenKenobi

—Is the Pope Catholic?

LOL! Good one! Wish I had thought of that!

Cheers


17 posted on 11/15/2011 9:12:44 PM PST by DoctorBulldog (I'm a Cainiac! Get over it. -- If the dress aint got no stain, you MUST acquit Cain!)
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To: BenKenobi
Amazing, isn't it, that many other religions voted for Obama?

xx% McCain, 23% Obama - White Evangelicals age 30-6411
75% McCain, 25% Obama - White7,10 Born Again5,10,12 Evangelicals1,8,10,12
73% McCain, 26% Obama - Evangelical/Born-again Protestant14
xx% McCain, 32% Obama - White Evangelicals age 18-2911
65% McCain, xx% Obama - Weekly church-attending Protestants7
65% McCain, 34% Obama - White Protestants7,8
65% McCain, 34% Obama - White Protestant/Other Christian14
59% McCain, 40% Obama - Working-class whites13
57% McCain, 41% Obama - White men13
55% McCain, 43% Obama - "White voters" 13
55% McCain, 44% Obama - Non-evangelical Protestant14
54% McCain, 44% Obama - Weekly church-goers1,4,7,12
54% McCain, 45% Obama - Protestants6,8
53% McCain, 46% Obama - White women 13
51% McCain, 49% Obama - White Catholics1,7,11
46% McCain, 52% Obama - Non-Evangelical Protestants 12
46% McCain, 53% Obama - Protestant/Other Christian14
xx% McCain, 53% Obama - Monthly church-goers 4**
44% McCain, 54% Obama - "Young whites"13
xx% McCain, 59% Obama - Semi-annual church-goers4**
38% McCain, 61% Obama - Occasional churchgoers1
28% McCain, 62% Obama - Other faiths14
xx% McCain, 67% Obama - Hispanic Protestants and other Christians11**, ****
xx% McCain, 68% Obama - Don't attend church4 **
22% McCain, 73% Obama - Other faiths14
23% McCain, 75% Obama - Unaffliliated with any religion11
23% McCain, 75% Obama - Unaffliliated14
21% McCain, 78% Obama - American Jews2,8,12 and other faiths12
21% McCain, 78% Obama - Jewish14**
xx% McCain, 94% Obama - Black Protestants11,13**,****
xx% McCain, 96% Obama - Blacks13**,****

18 posted on 11/15/2011 9:29:33 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
Amazing, isn't it, that many other religions voted for Obama?

If you're going to use my stats and even lift my HTML formatting, the least you could do is quote the source.

19 posted on 11/15/2011 9:35:41 PM PST by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2703506/posts?page=518#518)
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To: Alex Murphy

No, Ostupid is not particularly anti catholic; he is anti GOD, can’t be a COMMUNIST/STALINIST and believe in GOD at the same time, don’t you know.


20 posted on 11/15/2011 9:39:14 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: patlin

“Well, so did a majority of all“ dead ” Americans & “illegal immigrants””
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Well, it is a given that the Dims engage every fraud trick in the book. That has always been par for the course, but
the overriding factor was anger at Bush and a just plain stupid electorate.

While we cant blame Bush next time, we will have an even more stupid electorate, along with even more illegal voters.


21 posted on 11/15/2011 9:39:38 PM PST by AlexW
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To: AlexW
the overriding factor was anger at Bush

I would call it misdirected anger and the electorate is stupid because sadly we now live in a country where it's ‘me’ first, country last. Where our moral compass that is defined in the Old Testament has been rinsed down the proverbial drain with the bath water in lieu of self gratification through false doctrine of Christ crucified instead of self crucified.

When Yah’shua said to pick up ones cross and follow him, he wasn't talking about some carnal spoken phrase of one just saying ‘I believe’. He was speaking of one turning back to the ways of his Father by casting off man made religious dogma that added extra burdens to the people in order to keep them in bondage by excluding them from participating in Temple services. Paul said it best about what was nailed to the cross when Yah’shua died when he said in Ephesians 2

14 For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, 15 having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments in ""(G1378)

G1378 dogma
dog’-mah
a law (civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical)

H1881 dath
dawth
a royal edict or statute

Yah’s instructions are divine, they are not dogma and thus the hypocrisy of religious dogma that says the law came to abolish itself for a select group of people called the new church. Total hypocrisy! and Total heresy! The mere fact that the majority a large sect of Christendom saw fit to elect an unqualified miscreant shows the core problem of man's religious dogma. Yes, YHVH did send us a powerful message. Sadly the system is so corrupt that it is likely to repeat itself in 2012.

Here endeth the lesson on why it is "SO IMPORTANT" to take the Greek words of the 1st century writings back to the LXXC in order to get a proper interpretation of what was being said. From the LXXC we can then get the words back to their original Hebrew from which the Greek was translated/transliterated from.

22 posted on 11/15/2011 10:30:54 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: AlexW
freak accident in posting, I have no idea what happened but here it the correct interpretation of Ephesians 2

14 For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, 15 having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments in “religious dogma”(G1378)

23 posted on 11/15/2011 10:34:53 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Anti Christian

= Muslim!


24 posted on 11/15/2011 10:40:16 PM PST by himno hero (Obamas theme...Death to America...The crusaders will pay!)
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To: patlin

“I would call it misdirected anger and the electorate is stupid because sadly we now live in a country where it’s ‘me’ first, country last.”
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I agree on that point, but you pretty much left me in the dust on the biblical interpretations.

While I was the senior warden at my very old (1832) but
small Episcopal church in rural Tennessee, I was never immersed in biblical interpretation.

Sadly, it seems that the Episcopal church has fallen into Hell, and taken over by radical homosexuals, and Marxist, which means it is no longer a church of Christ or God.


25 posted on 11/15/2011 10:55:15 PM PST by AlexW
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To: AlexW
Episcopal, Catholic, Protestant, whatever, they are all full of sexual immorality in the pulpit as well as the ecclesia. There is none that are immune, not even Judaism.

Yah stated His true intentions best when he said in Ex 19:6And you shall be to Me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.”

This is the Malki’Tzedek priesthood that was established before earth was created. It is the priesthood that was ushered back in when Yah’shua died and became the eternal High Priest of the order of Malki’Tzedek because death & sin had continued to corrupt the levitical high priesthood, therefore we now have a High Priest that never dies. A heavenly High Priest through which all sin is forgiven, but forgiveness does not equal salvation. They are two distinct and separate things and why Yah instructs us to not rely on man, but His Word and the only Word that existed when Yah’shua walked the earth was Genesis-Malichi. This means all doctrine is suppose to follow which is in the front of the book, because none exists in the back of the book. Even the Malki’Tzedek priesthood is defined by Moses. Abraham was a priest of the Malki’Tzedek order as well as Adam, Noah & Shem. It is why Yah said this when he called the people to the base of the mountain:’

Ex 19:21 And the LORD said to Moses, “... let the priests who come near the LORD consecrate themselves, lest the LORD break out against them.”

Now the Levitical priesthood was not yet established when YHVH said this, thus it is clear there was an existing priesthood. The Malki’Tzedek priesthood. And it is THIS MALKI'TZEDEK priesthood that we live under, Yah’shua being the High priest & we being priests. Therefore it is our duty to study the word for ourselves and cast off our dependance on the interpretations of carnal men who have totally made a mockery of His Divine Word. There is none between us & Yah'shua Messiah our High priest. No pontiff, no minister, no pastor, no elder, nada. Not one of them has any authority over the Word or any authority to define that which we are to seek forgiveness for. It is all defined in the front of the book by YHVH ^ "The Word" that came it the flesh. The back of the book is the testimony that the front of the book is true, not new.

Proverbs 2

1 My son, if you receive my words,
And treasure my commands within you,
2 So that you incline your ear to wisdom,
And apply your heart to understanding;
3 Yes, if you cry out for discernment,
And lift up your voice for understanding,
4 If you seek her as silver,
And search for her as for hidden treasures;
5 Then you will understand the fear of the LORD,
And find the knowledge of God.
6 For the LORD gives wisdom;
From His mouth come knowledge and understanding;

7 He stores up sound wisdom for the upright;
He is a shield to those who walk uprightly;
8 He guards the paths of justice,
And preserves the way of His saints.
9 Then you will understand righteousness and justice,
Equity and every good path.
10 When wisdom enters your heart,
And knowledge is pleasant to your soul,
11 Discretion will preserve you;
Understanding will keep you,
12 To deliver you from the way of evil,
From the man who speaks perverse things,
13 From those who leave the paths of uprightness
To walk in the ways of darkness;

14 Who rejoice in doing evil,
And delight in the perversity of the wicked;
15 Whose ways are crooked,
And who are devious in their paths;
16 To deliver you from the immoral woman,
From the seductress who flatters with her words,
17 Who forsakes the companion of her youth,
And forgets the covenant of her God.
18 For her house leads down to death,
And her paths to the dead;
19 None who go to her return,
Nor do they regain the paths of life—
20 So you may walk in the way of goodness,
And keep to the paths of righteousness.
21 For the upright will dwell in the land,
And the blameless will remain in it;
22 But the wicked will be cut off from the earth,
And the unfaithful will be uprooted from it.

26 posted on 11/15/2011 11:29:38 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: garjog
nice picture of a Christian Indian woman greeting the Pope in a traditional indian way. India has about 25 million or more Christians, most of which are heavily integrated in India and wear Indian saris etc.
27 posted on 11/16/2011 12:06:11 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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To: Alex Murphy

This Catholic DID NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA... and never will... no matter the “funding”. Don’t believe in no “funding”...


28 posted on 11/16/2011 12:10:48 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Alex Murphy

There will be less Catholic support for Obama this time around, as his cuts to their programs have cost a lot of them their jobs.

The ordinary of every diocese where Obama carried the Catholic vote in 2008 should have been replaced immediately.


29 posted on 11/16/2011 2:02:11 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: Alex Murphy

Pastor of our parish was positively giddy at Obama’s election.

Lost all respect for him at that point.


30 posted on 11/16/2011 3:32:55 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: garjog

Texe Marrs is a nitwit, but all that’s happening in that picture is that the Pope is being given the traditional formal Indian greeting, by a woman who was (a) married; and (b) Catholic.


31 posted on 11/16/2011 5:11:31 AM PST by Campion ("It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins." -- Franklin)
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To: AlexW; All
"A majority of Catholics voted for Barack Obama"

But a majority of Christians voted AGAINST Obama in 2008! These Christians who voted were not duped by the deception that CNN and NBC and the Liberal Drive-By Media dished out.

32 posted on 11/16/2011 5:46:42 AM PST by bibletruth
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To: Alex Murphy

BHO is anti-anything Christ.


33 posted on 11/16/2011 7:35:16 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: Campion

Oops, sorry. I just searched for the title, Is the pope Catholic. Wanted to be funny, didn’t realize the photo was about that.


34 posted on 11/16/2011 8:26:41 AM PST by garjog
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To: Alex Murphy

Is the Pope, Catholic?


35 posted on 11/16/2011 8:52:40 AM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: garjog
Yeah, ol' Texe Marrs is a strange dude
36 posted on 11/16/2011 9:30:52 AM PST by Campion ("It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins." -- Franklin)
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To: Alex Murphy

Moslems do tend to be anti Catholic.


37 posted on 11/16/2011 12:30:30 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: patlin

G1378-
1) doctrine, decree, ordinance

a) of public decrees

b) of the Roman Senate

c) of rulers

2) the rules and requirements of the law of Moses; carrying a suggestion of severity and of threatened judgment

3) of certain decrees of the apostles relative to right living


38 posted on 11/18/2011 7:44:29 PM PST by Bellflower (Judas Iscariot, first democrat, robber, held the money bag, claimed to care for poor: John 12:4-6)
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To: Bellflower
I see you chose to use the biased Thayer concordance rather than the Strongs that doesn't agree with you. The fact that the word is used so little in the ENTIRE Scriptures from Gen to Rev proves that is does NOT pertain to the laws of Moses, but rather the religious dogma instituted by man.

G1378 δόγμα dogma dog'-mah From the base of G1380; a law (civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical): - decree, ordinance.

LXX related word(s) H633 esar H1881 dat H2942 teem H3791 ketav

G1378 Total LXX Occurrences: 12 δογμα (10) Dan_2:13, Dan_3:10, Dan_3:29, Dan_4:6, Dan_6:8-10 (3), Dan_6:12, Dan_6:15, Dan_6:26 δογματι (2) Dan_3:12, Dan_6:13

G1378 δόγμα dogma Total KJV Occurrences: 5 decrees, 2 Act_16:4, Act_17:7 ordinances, 2 Eph_2:15, Col_2:14 decree, 1 Luk_2:1

G1378 Total Occurrences: 6 δογμα (2) Dan_6:12, Luk_2:1 δογμασιν (2) Eph_2:15, Col_2:14 δογματα (1) Act_16:4 δογματων (1) Act_17:7

39 posted on 11/18/2011 9:09:15 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin
Ya know patlin, I really do not like your tone. You are accusatory which is not needed nor called for (but I do forgive you). Remember that according to James 3:17 the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, easy to be entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. Whenever someone isn't "nice" and doesn't try to think the best of the someone he is discussing something with a red flag goes up for me and I think there may be something wrong about what he/she is saying or they wouldn't need to cop a cold and rather mean attitude.

G1378 δόγμα dogma dog'-mah From the base of G1380; a law (civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical): - decree, ordinance.

Strongs says (and I was using Strongs) a law which is civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical. You have decided it means a law made up by man rather than God. What you seem to not understand or have falsely rejected is that by the law of God all are guilty. Nobody kept/keeps the law of God perfectly and therefore all stand condemned before Almighty God whose standard is perfection. I am probably telling you something you have heard many times and deem heresy but as Paul said "For I testify again to every man that is circumcised [[meaning the law of The Old testament]], that he is a debtor to do the whole law." When Jesus died on the cross He paid for all of our sins, yes even nailing the ordinances of God's law to His cross, for if He hadn't not one of us could stand. The whole New Testament is about how, though we are free from the law, we are to live unto God, out of love and trust of God because we have come to the light and know that He is good and His ways are right. Essentially we have become sane.

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Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed [is] every one that hangeth on a tree:

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Gal 4:9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?

Gal 4:10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years

Gal 4:11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.

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Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed [is] every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

Gal 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, [it is] evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

Gal 3:12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed [is] every one that hangeth on a tree:

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Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster [to bring us] unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith

Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

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Gal 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only [use] not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.

Gal 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

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Jhn 13:33 Little children, yet a little while I am with you. Ye shall seek me: and as I said unto the Jews, Whither I go, ye cannot come; so now I say to you.

Jhn 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

Jhn 13:35 By this shall all [men] know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

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Jhn 15:17 These things I command you, that ye love one another.

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1Cr 13:4 Charity suffereth long, [and] is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

1Cr 13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

1Cr 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

1Cr 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

1Cr 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether [there be] prophecies, they shall fail; whether [there be] tongues, they shall cease; whether [there be] knowledge, it shall vanish away.

40 posted on 11/19/2011 6:56:26 PM PST by Bellflower (Judas Iscariot, first democrat, robber, held the money bag, claimed to care for poor: John 12:4-6)
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To: Bellflower
I find it interesting that when the truth makes someone uncomfortable, they feel that they have to come back with emotional responses. G1378 is dogma, dogma is religious law of man. That is just plain fact. Divine law has never been dogma and dogma has never been Divine.

I also don't know where you got that long winded vesion of James 3:17. My bible says one who is wise and understanding shows it in ones actions and according to YHVH, we are not to twist His Word, but to lift Him up by keeping His Word pure.

(and I was using Strongs) (G1378- 1) doctrine, decree, ordinance a) of public decrees b) of the Roman Senatence c) of rulers 2) the rules and requirements of the law of Moses; carrying a suggestion of severity and of threatened judgment 3) of certain decrees of the apostles relative to right living)

You were using Thayers, not Strongs. Why lie about it?

G1378 δόγμα dogma Thayer Definition: 1) doctrine, decree, ordinance 1a) of public decrees 1b) of the Roman Senate 1c) of rulers 2) the rules and requirements of the law of Moses; carrying a suggestion of severity and of threatened judgment 3) of certain decrees of the apostles relative to right living Part of Speech: noun neuter A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from the base of G1380 Citing in TDNT: 2:230, 178

Srong's simply says

G1378 δόγμα dogma dog'-mah From the base of G1380; a law (civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical): - decree, ordinance.

LXX related word(s) H633 esar H1881 dat H2942 teem H3791 ketav

So the least you can do in the future is be honest. And you could least be honest about the word law as they are not all created equal. One can not take just any verse with the word law in it and assume they all mean the same thing because they do not.

It would have behooved you to actually look up the word law that is used in Gal 3:10-13 because it is not G1378, it is G3551.

G3551 νόμος nomos nom'-os From a primary word νέμω nemō (to parcel out, especially food or grazing to animals); law (through the idea of prescriptive usage), generally (regulation), specifically (of Moses [including the volume]; also of the Gospel), or figuratively (a principle): - law.

LXX related word(s) H1697 davar H1881 dat H2703 chuqqah H2706 choq H4687 mitsvah H4941 mishpat H6600 pitgam H8452 torah

Gal 4:9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?... 4:10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years

These are in reference to pagan religious practices, not the Divine Appointments and Weekly Sabbaths of YHVH... We are called to keep His Word pure and that is all I am doing. Putting the religious dogma of man where is belongs by lifting up the truth of His Word.

41 posted on 11/19/2011 9:11:53 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin
Do not accuse another Freeper of telling a lie. It attributes motive, the intent to decieve. It is "making it personal."

Words such as "false" "error" "wrong" do not attribute motive.

Discuss the issue all you want but do not make it personal.

42 posted on 11/19/2011 9:16:11 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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