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Missal 3.0 – Part 1 [Catholic Caucus]
CatholicExchange.com ^ | October 27th, 2011 | Justin Soutar

Posted on 11/17/2011 7:55:41 PM PST by Salvation

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To: Biggirl

Even if Latin is a dead language, it is still an official language of the church. It is the basis for many languages and the derivative of many english words.

Irrespective of the language, the Mass is much more solemn and historic. Perhaps because the public did not fully understood the words, there was a more prayerful silent awe of the Mass.

I don’t think, we will return to a Latin Mass (Tridentine) although it is still available in a few places.

I feel everyone should have an opportunity to experience it.


21 posted on 11/18/2011 5:33:56 AM PST by ADSUM (Body of Christ is the Church, gathered around the crucified risen Lord and fed by Him in Communion.)
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To: rzman21; Salvation
Add to those you mentioned, the RC Dioceses of Albany and Rochester in NY. Fr. Richard Vosko, Ph.D., a priest of the Diocese of Albany, has been making a comfortable living for the past 29 years, travelling the United States and Canada—parish by parish—promoting his liturgical indoctrination program for the renovation of traditional Catholic churches as well as for the design of new Catholic churches. In his travels, he razzle dazzles catholic audiences as he promotes his understanding of VCII. He told his Toledo OH audience:

"Vatican II changes everything," he said exuberantly at one point in his talk. "It means the end of stable religion. We have to understand what religion is all about. Vatican II says we have to have a totally new understanding of what religion is."

And part of being a Vatican II Catholic, he immediately added, is understanding "there is no geographical place called heaven. There is no geographical place called hell...

Mercifully, the bishops of both NY dioceses will reach retirement age in 2013, after 30+ years of wreckovation.

22 posted on 11/18/2011 6:02:47 AM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: Biggirl

My family (wife and two boys) have been taking classes for over a month now in preparation for this change.

Like most changes, it will be difficult at first, but in time that will fade. My hope is that we all will grow stronger in our faith.


23 posted on 11/18/2011 6:19:51 AM PST by Dacula (When life gives you lemons, make apple juice and have people wonder how the hell you did it.)
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To: ConorMacNessa
Now if we could just get altar rails back and eliminate Communion in the hand. we'd be getting somewhere! &&& <> I know. Very disappointed about the "Sign of Peace".
24 posted on 11/18/2011 6:29:10 AM PST by Bigg Red (Maryland girl on the Cain Train)
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To: Salvation

Well said, my FRiend, but I am not so hopeful.... I’ll just have to keep praying for it.


25 posted on 11/18/2011 6:30:26 AM PST by Bigg Red (Maryland girl on the Cain Train)
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To: Mach9

How about turning the priest around, too?

^^^
I would love to see that. But, doncha know, we’re all at the “table” with him, so we have to face him. So stupid.


26 posted on 11/18/2011 6:32:51 AM PST by Bigg Red (Maryland girl on the Cain Train)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Oops! I shoul know better, but I accidently used what the syStem thought was html tagging. (I wish FR had a “delete” button.)

Now if we could just get altar rails back and eliminate Communion in the hand. we’d be getting somewhere! &&& <> I know. Very disappointed about the “Sign of Peace”.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN

Now if we could just get altar rails back and eliminate Communion in the hand. we’d be getting somewhere!

{{sigh}}...I know.

Very disappointed about the “Sign of Peace”, too.


27 posted on 11/18/2011 6:41:01 AM PST by Bigg Red (Maryland girl on the Cain Train)
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To: COBOL2Java

You can get the new wording on the web and print it off. Look under Roman Missal. I don’t have the link any more, but it is there.


28 posted on 11/18/2011 6:46:14 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Bigg Red

Are they eliminating the Sign of Peace?


29 posted on 11/18/2011 6:47:20 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I’ve looked, but it’s been a few weeks. USCCB website wasn’t much help.


30 posted on 11/18/2011 6:51:23 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: ADSUM
I feel that all Catholics should experience a Mass said in Latin.

A Mass in Gaelic is a jarring experience. Ir was beautiful, but I couldn't even distinguish the Our Father in it! LOL

31 posted on 11/18/2011 6:51:23 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Are they eliminating the Sign of Peace?

Some bishops lobbied to replace it with the High Five of peace, "in the spirit of Vatican II", but were voted down. :0)

32 posted on 11/18/2011 6:53:31 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: ADSUM

This I forgot to put in, but it all comes down to the word “perception” or the “perception of” about a very highly honored language.


33 posted on 11/18/2011 8:22:32 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The Sign of Peace is optional. Lobby your priest.


34 posted on 11/18/2011 8:31:47 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Bigg Red

Altar rails, Communion on the tongue and Ad Orientam Masses are coming.

Altar rails and Communion on the tongue are already norms in some churches.

Lobby your Bishop, Lobby your priest!

They will come! The pendulum is swinging back to the right!!!!Hooray!


35 posted on 11/18/2011 8:34:29 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: COBOL2Java
Try Changes in people's parts or try Changes in people's parts - PDF file

Also, for changes in Priest's parts, try Changes in Priest's parts or try Changes in Priest's parts - PDF file.

(The USCCB has been changing their web site around a lot recently.)
36 posted on 11/18/2011 11:03:43 AM PST by Heart-Rest ("Our hearts are restless, Lord, until they rest in Thee." - St. Augustine)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Have you heard the Lord’s prayer in Aramaic (the language at the time of Jesus)?

http://www.barefootsworld.net/lordpray.html

I had a friend in high school from Ireland that tried to teach us a few words in Gaelic. When I visited a pub in Ireland in a rural area the language changed quickly from English to Gaelic.


37 posted on 11/18/2011 11:38:28 AM PST by ADSUM (Body of Christ is the Church, gathered around the crucified risen Lord and fed by Him in Communion.)
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To: Salvation

Everything old is new again!


38 posted on 11/18/2011 2:54:21 PM PST by Palladin (Where is Ray Gricar?)
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To: Palladin

You said it first!


39 posted on 11/18/2011 7:35:58 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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A Biblical Walk Through the Mass by Edward Sri (Book Review) [Ecumenical]

A Biblical Walk Through the Mass (Book): Understanding What We Say and Do In The Liturgy

40 posted on 11/18/2011 7:38:45 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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