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Following the Truth: A Biblical Roadmap To The One, True Church (Catholic or Open)
CatholicLane.com ^ | May 12, 2011 | Gary Zimak

Posted on 11/28/2011 8:12:49 AM PST by Salvation

A Biblical Roadmap To The One, True Church

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Teach me, LORD, your way that I may walk in your truth. (Ps 86:11)

Sounds simple, doesn’t it?  I can’t imagine any Christian looking at the above verse and disagreeing with its content.  Essentially, it is a summary of our mission as followers of Christ. But exactly how does the Lord teach us “His way” so that we can “walk in His truth”?  Even though we acknowledge Jesus as “the Way, the Truth, and the Life”, we still need a set of guidelines for making moral decisions.

The Bible tells us that “the church” is the guardian of the truth, but why is it that various Christian churches hold such radically different beliefs?  While pledging loyalty to the Bible, many denominations have conflicting teachings on important moral issues such as abortion, birth control, divorce and homosexuality.  Didn’t Psalm 86 state that there is one way which allows us to walk in God’s truth?  Can there actually be multiple conflicting “truths”? 

In reality, the Bible illustrates that there is indeed ONE truth and that there is ONE Church which was established to help us learn and live that truth.  Let’s look at 10 Scripture passages that take us from point “A” (there is one absolute truth) to point “B” (there is one Church that contains the fullness of truth).  Once we arrive at our destination, finding that one, true Church is relatively easy!

1. This is good and pleasing to God our savior, who wills everyone to be saved and to come to knowledge of the truth (1 Tm 2:3-4).

According to St. Paul, God wants everyone to be saved and to know THE “truth”.  It sounds good to me, but how can I discover THE “truth”?

2. But if I should be delayed, you should know how to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Tm 3:15).

A clue!  We are to look to “the Church” to discover the truth…but which one?  There are tens of thousands of Christian churches!

3. But when he comes, the Spirit of truth, he will guide you to all truth. He will not speak on his own, but he will speak what he hears, and will declare to you the things that are coming (Jn 16:13).

There’s that “truth” thing again! This could be another clue.  If (as Jesus promised) the Holy Spirit really guides us to all truth, then conflicting doctrinal beliefs would not be possible.  Doesn’t that make a strong case for a single, authoritative interpreter of the truth?  Could this interpreter possibly be “the Church” referred to as the “pillar and foundation of truth” in 1 Tm 3:15?

4. If your brother sins (against you), go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have won over your brother. If he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, so that ‘every fact may be established on the testimony of two or three witnesses.’  If he refuses to listen to them, tell the church.  If he refuses to listen even to the church, then treat him as you would a Gentile or a tax collector. Amen, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven  (Mt 18:15-18).

Jesus gives us a clue about “the Church”.  He points to “the Church” as the ultimate authority for settling moral issues and He gives this Church authority to make binding decisions on earth. That narrows my search down a bit; I need to find a church who can teach authoritatively…

5. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven.  Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”   (Mt 16:18-19).

Not “churches”, but CHURCH (singular)!  This Church, founded by Christ, is built on the leadership of St. Peter (the first pope), to whom Jesus gives the power to make authoritative decisions on earth.  This could be that Church that I’m searching for, but I still need to look for more clues…

6. Then Jesus approached and said to them, “All power in heaven and on earth has been given to me.  Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you.  And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age.”  (Mt 28:18-20).

Let’s see…Just before Jesus ascended into Heaven, He instructed the Apostles to carry on His mission by baptizing and teaching ALL that He has commanded.   This is an unexpected development.  Now I’m looking for a church that presents the teaching of Jesus Christ and also utilizes baptism as a means to become a disciple.  I thought I was getting somewhere, but now I’m not so sure.  Lots of churches baptize their members.  I need to look for more clues…

7. Now there was a Pharisee named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. He came to Jesus at night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God, for no one can do these signs that you are doing unless God is with him.” Jesus answered and said to him, “Amen, amen, I say to you, no one can see the kingdom of God without being born from above.” Nicodemus said to him, “How can a person once grown old be born again? Surely he cannot reenter his mother’s womb and be born again, can he?” Jesus answered, “Amen, amen, I say to you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and Spirit (Jn 3:1-5).

Wait a minute!  Jesus told Nicodemus that no one can achieve salvation “without being born of water and Spirit”.  It sounds like He’s referring to baptism and deeming it to be necessary for our salvation!  Now I’m looking for a church with a common set of beliefs (the “truth”), that is visible, can make authoritative decisions AND teaches that baptism is necessary for salvation.  Our list of potential churches has gotten a lot smaller!

8. I am the bread of life. Your ancestors ate the manna in the desert, but they died; this is the bread that comes down from heaven so that one may eat it and not die. I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world.” The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us (his) flesh to eat?” Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day.  For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him. Just as the living Father sent me and I have life because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will have life because of me. This is the bread that came down from heaven. Unlike your ancestors who ate and still died, whoever eats this bread will live forever.” These things he said while teaching in the synagogue in Capernaum. Then many of his disciples who were listening said, “This saying is hard; who can accept it?” Since Jesus knew that his disciples were murmuring about this, he said to them, “Does this shock you? What if you were to see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before? It is the spirit that gives life, while the flesh is of no avail. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and life. But there are some of you who do not believe.” Jesus knew from the beginning the ones who would not believe and the one who would betray him. And he said, “For this reason I have told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by my Father.” As a result of this, many (of) his disciples returned to their former way of life and no longer accompanied him (Jn 6:48-66).

Huh?  Did Jesus just say that eating His flesh and drinking His blood is necessary for achieving salvation?  This sounds like cannibalism!  He must be speaking figuratively and probably means “spiritual bread”.  Although, if Jesus was speaking figuratively – why would this saying be “hard” and why would He let many of His disciples walk away?  Wouldn’t it make sense that He would call them back, explaining that He wasn’t speaking literally?  In fact, He did just that when the Apostles misunderstood His reference to the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees (“How do you not comprehend that I was not speaking to you about bread?”) in Mt 16:11.  Therefore, we must assume that Jesus meant exactly what He said.  If that’s true, how is it possible to actually eat His Body?  There must be a missing piece to this puzzle and it’s definitely worth pursuing, since it sure sounds like Jesus is telling us that it’s necessary for salvation!  Stay tuned…

9. Then he took the bread, said the blessing, broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which will be given for you; do this in memory of me.” And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which will be shed for you (Lk 22:19-20).

Aha!  Now the words about eating His Body make sense and thankfully it has nothing to do with cannibalism!  Our Lord didn’t say that “this REPRESENTS my Body” or “this SYMBOLIZES my Body”.  He said, “This IS my Body”.   Is there a church that believes that Our Lord’s Body can actually exist under the appearance of bread and that follows His command to “do this in memory of me”?  This sounds like the Catholic Mass…and, come to think of it, the Catholic Church fits all of the other scriptural requirements, but it can’t really be “the Church”, can it?  After all, Catholics believe that they can only be saved by faith AND works.  All Christians know that we are saved by faith alone…

10. See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone (James 2:24).

It doesn’t get much clearer than that.  Could it be that the teaching of the Catholic Church is actually supported by the Bible?  If that’s the case does anything prevent me from recognizing that the Catholic Church is the one, true Church founded by Jesus Christ? 

While there are hundreds of Bible passages that support Catholic doctrine, these 10 are among the best.  If you are Catholic, you can take comfort in the fact that our beliefs are totally in harmony with these verses.  If you are not Catholic, I invite you to compare the teachings of your church to God’s Word contained in these Scripture passages.  I urge you to read them over, meditate upon them and ask the Holy Spirit to guide you to “the truth”.  A careful and honest study of Scripture has brought many people into the Catholic Church.



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Gary Zimak is the founder of Following The Truth Ministries (http://www.followingthetruth.com), a lay apostolate created to assist Catholics in learning more about their Faith. He is a regular guest on EWTN Radio’s “Son Rise Morning Show”, Ave Maria Radio’s “Catholic Connection with Teresa Tomeo” and appears frequently on several other Catholic radio programs.  In addition to writing for CatholicLane. Mr. Zimak hosts a daily program on BlogTalkRadio and posts frequently on his blog, Facebook and Twitter.  He is a member of Catholics United For The Faith and the Knights of Columbus and resides in New Jersey.

1 posted on 11/28/2011 8:13:02 AM PST by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Advent Ping for a series.


2 posted on 11/28/2011 8:16:47 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

“We are to look to “the Church” to discover the truth…but which one? “

A hint: It won’t be one that molests your children then seeks to cover it up.


3 posted on 11/28/2011 8:21:11 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Salvation

You can’t pull a few verses out of context and say you have discovered the whole truth.

Doing that, you can make the bible say almost anything you want. That is why so many do just that. Beware anyone who does this as they are being DECEPTIVE, not very Christian.

Read the bible yourself, always in context. Don’t allow others to tell you what it says. That includes your pastor.


4 posted on 11/28/2011 8:21:18 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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The thin-skinned non-Catholics only took three posts to get here.

Evidently, they did not read the entire article.


5 posted on 11/28/2011 8:25:57 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: faucetman

This article does not deride any other denomination. It speaks, in general, of the Biblical strengths of the Catholic Church.


6 posted on 11/28/2011 8:27:00 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: All
And for those who doubt the Biblical foundation of the Catholic Mass -- here's a book for you to read and meditate on.

A Biblical Walk Through the Mass by Edward Sri (Book Review) [Ecumenical]

A Biblical Walk Through the Mass (Book): Understanding What We Say and Do In The Liturgy

7 posted on 11/28/2011 8:28:16 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Perhaps, being all-powerful, God provides different road maps to different individuals?


8 posted on 11/28/2011 8:28:48 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Salvation

Like I say, there’s no salvation outside the Church!


9 posted on 11/28/2011 8:31:28 AM PST by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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To: Salvation

And as interesting as the read is, it is still Rome’s version. I do not need guidelines from a man made organization. I can read the Bible for my own self


10 posted on 11/28/2011 8:33:29 AM PST by Nifster
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To: Salvation

So if I am not a member of the “true church” I must be a member of a false church then? Sure sounds like an attack to me.


11 posted on 11/28/2011 8:34:35 AM PST by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: faucetman

**You can’t pull a few verses out of context and say you have discovered the whole truth.**

LOL! It seems to me that the non-Catholics are usually the ones taking Bible verses out of context.

There is a lot of context with some of these quotes.

Read on.


12 posted on 11/28/2011 8:35:05 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
It will be one that ALWAYS leads back to the gospel of your salvation. That ALWAYS focuses on the FINISHED WORK OF CHRIST. That ALWAYS makes it clear that it is by grace through faith that we are saved. And that is a free gift of God. It will be one where God's Word of Truth is the ONLY final authority. It probably won't be the most beautiful building on the outside, but that's because the members KNOW that WE are the temple of God, not a building. WE are the Church the Body of Christ, not a religious institution who teaches that salvation is only through their institution. It won't be rich. Because it doesn't extort money from its members through works or false promises. It doesn't extort. It EXHORTS its members to preach the gospel of salvation. And to reprove, rebuke and exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. It knows its commission is found in 2 Cor. 5:14-21. The reconciliation of God and man.

It knows its power comes from the Word of God, not the opinions of men.

13 posted on 11/28/2011 8:35:10 AM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: Pope Pius XII

that’s supposed to be sarcasm, right?


14 posted on 11/28/2011 8:35:16 AM PST by Nifster
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To: Nifster

The Pope or the Vatican did not compile these Bible verses. An individual did.

LOL! that you thought they came from the Pope or the Vatican.

Read on!


15 posted on 11/28/2011 8:36:57 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: stuartcr

I guess so if people want to choose that.

The two choices are
Eternal life
Eternal damnation


16 posted on 11/28/2011 8:38:22 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Squidpup

Only Christ can answer that question at the moment of your death.

Are you a sheep or a goat?


17 posted on 11/28/2011 8:39:51 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Pope Pius XII

BTTT!


18 posted on 11/28/2011 8:41:05 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

“The thin-skinned non-Catholics only took three posts to get here. Evidently, they did not read the entire article.”

I did read it.

It fails mainly in that it presupposes that the church you are making your pitch for is the same church to which the Biblical writers were referring.

A lot can change in 2,000 years. We don’t see Paul addressing the widespread problem of molesting priests in the New Testament. Why? Because the church of that era was of a different quality than the modern catholic church.

The Bible is full of examples of institutions going bad. When they do, God often sets them aside an starts over.


19 posted on 11/28/2011 8:44:00 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Salvation

Christ is my Savior and Lord, and I am indwelled by His Spirit. Yet, I am not, and will not ever, be a member of the Catholic church. Based on that information, do you say that I am bound for salvation or damnation?


20 posted on 11/28/2011 8:45:31 AM PST by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: Nifster

Yes, you can read the Bible for “your own self.” But do you not think it’s just a little bit arrogant for any of us to think we are more brilliant and better at interpreting the Scriptures than the most brilliant theologians and philosophers of the past two thousand years? So many people have read the Bible for themselves and have come up with all kinds of crazy, cruel, wicked, horrible behavior as a result, so obviously reading for ourselves doesn’t necessarily lead us to the truth about God’s word. People have been reading the Scripture and inventing new denominations and new religions for centuries; they believe different things about God, so they can’t all be right. Clearly our own insights as individuals aren’t very accurate.


21 posted on 11/28/2011 8:47:05 AM PST by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

It wasn’t a cover-up. They just shuttled the guilty men of the cloth to other parishes, paid off the families that were hurt and neglected to inform the authorities.

OK, when I say it like that it sounds like a cover-up.


22 posted on 11/28/2011 8:51:18 AM PST by JohnC2004
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Many “brilliant theologians and philosophers” have also “come up with all kinds of crazy, cruel, wicked, horrible behavior”.

+++++++

“Clearly our own insights as individuals aren’t very accurate.”

This the need for the catholic “Magesterium”.

But if you can’t interpret the Bible accurately, how can you be sure you are interpreting the pronouncements of the Magesterium accurately?

Catch-22.


23 posted on 11/28/2011 8:53:31 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Squidpup

Christ IS the CENTER of the Catholic Church, both in Word and in Sacrament.

Do you have that?

Or are you missing something.


24 posted on 11/28/2011 8:55:37 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ottbmare

**People have been reading the Scripture and inventing new denominations and new religions for centuries; they believe different things about God, so they can’t all be right. Clearly our own insights as individuals aren’t very accurate.**

Very wise words.

That’s why Catholics do not use YOPIOS.


25 posted on 11/28/2011 8:57:52 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Or, as I see it, the catholic church.


26 posted on 11/28/2011 9:02:25 AM PST by DManA
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To: Salvation

I told you I have Christ as my Savior and Lord and am indwelled by His Spirit. You didn’t answer my question. I will not ever be a member of the Catholic church - do you say I am bound for salvation or damnation?


27 posted on 11/28/2011 9:04:10 AM PST by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: ottbmare

Clearly our own insights as individuals aren’t very accurate.

But clearly the protection of the Roman Church isn’t sufficient since all matter of nonsense has and does come out of the Vatican.


28 posted on 11/28/2011 9:05:36 AM PST by DManA
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29 posted on 11/28/2011 9:08:27 AM PST by narses (what you bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and what you loose upon earth, shall be ..)
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30 posted on 11/28/2011 9:08:34 AM PST by narses (what you bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and what you loose upon earth, shall be ..)
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To: DManA

“protection of the Roman Church”

Oxymoron. There is no such thing. Unless they have panic buttons in the confessionals now....


31 posted on 11/28/2011 9:09:08 AM PST by JohnC2004
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To: PetroniusMaximus

A hint: It won’t be one that molests your children then seeks to cover it up.

>An off topic red herring if I ever saw one.


32 posted on 11/28/2011 9:13:47 AM PST by rzman21
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To: faucetman

33 posted on 11/28/2011 9:15:03 AM PST by narses (what you bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and what you loose upon earth, shall be ..)
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To: Salvation

We use many of the same scriptures to prove the necessity of One True Church to provide evidence that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints fills the bill nicely.

(ok...I’m trolling just a bit!)


34 posted on 11/28/2011 9:18:36 AM PST by 47samurai (The last real conservative)
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To: rzman21

“Clearly our own insights as individuals aren’t very accurate.”

As off-topic as a warning label on a pack of cigarettes.


35 posted on 11/28/2011 9:19:42 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: narses; Salvation

If you can’t interpret the Bible accurately, how can you be sure you are interpreting the pronouncements of the Magesterium accurately?

Catch-22.


36 posted on 11/28/2011 9:21:58 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Salvation

Thank you, Salvation, for putting yourself out there and posting this. It reveals to us non-Catholics where you are coming from.


37 posted on 11/28/2011 9:24:56 AM PST by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: Salvation

Perhaps there really aren’t any choices, and God already knows what will happen to each of us.


38 posted on 11/28/2011 9:41:26 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: DManA
Clearly our own insights as individuals aren’t very accurate. But clearly the protection of the Roman Church isn’t sufficient since all matter of nonsense has and does come out of the Vatican.

I'm not referring to the transient words of individual Catholic priests or of some unofficial statement of some guy in some department of the Vatican, but to the official doctrine of the Catholic Church. That's definite, it's not nonsense, and it was hammered out by painstaking effort over the millenia through the discourse of brilliant and God-filled men. Its premises are actually quite logical, not nonsensical. It's a solid guide.

Full disclosure: I was raised as a Protestant and educated as a scientist, so until two years ago I thought the Catholic Church was full of superstitious nonsense, too. Then I began studying the doctrines with great rigor. It was amazing to find the clear logic behind everything I'd been taught to regard as stupid.

39 posted on 11/28/2011 9:42:07 AM PST by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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interesting the complete lack of refutation of the scripture in the article, and instead claims of ‘cherrypicking’ instead...i would have thought our separated brethern bonifide bible only, scripture alone, scripture interprets scripture, band of theology studs would have torn the scripture references in the article, to pieces....


40 posted on 11/28/2011 9:49:00 AM PST by raygunfan
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To: ottbmare

unofficial statement of some guy in some department of the Vatican,

I know, I hear that defense every time some cocamamey document gets released from Rome. Well these idiot department are seen as important enough to spend valuable capital on. They get letter head with the word Vatican on them. They represent thinking that is going on behind all those closed doors. They represent one path the future Church could go down.

BTW, I congratulate you on finding a church home you feel comfortable in. Keep your eyes on the Prize. God bless.


41 posted on 11/28/2011 10:02:49 AM PST by DManA
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To: Salvation
Why does the Catholic church omit the 2nd Commandment from their version of the 10 Commandments?

You know, the one about graven images.
42 posted on 11/28/2011 10:13:19 AM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: ottbmare

“Full disclosure: I was raised as a Protestant and educated as a scientist, so until two years ago I thought the Catholic Church was full of superstitious nonsense, too. Then I began studying the doctrines with great rigor. It was amazing to find the clear logic behind everything I’d been taught to regard as stupid.”

Interesting. Perhaps you can answer the following for me. (I haven’t been able to get a clear answer from a Catholic yet.)

On what does the Catholic church base it’s claim to authority?

Serious question.


43 posted on 11/28/2011 10:29:20 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: raygunfan

“band of theology studs would have torn the scripture references in the article, to pieces....”

I think we’re still trying to recover from the shock of seeking a Catholic make an appeal from Scripture.


44 posted on 11/28/2011 10:31:55 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Salvation

Every Catholic who attends Mass should purchase a copy of Dr. Ted Sri’s book, The Mass. In this one book, Dr. Sri explains in detail how every part of the celebration of the Mass is derived from the Bible. For me, it has brought new meaning to what I put into, and what I get out of, every Mass that I attend.


45 posted on 11/28/2011 10:34:57 AM PST by CdMGuy
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To: Squidpup

Only you can answer the question about being bound for eternal life or eternal damnation.

If you die with a mortal sin on your soul — without having gone to the Sacrament of Penance/Confession and repented of it — then it is your choice.

FYI, once you have confessed your sins and been forgiven by GOD in the Sacrament of Penance, God forgets that sin.

Do you know the actual words of absolution?


46 posted on 11/28/2011 10:39:22 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: DManA

**all matter of nonsense has and does come out of the Vatican.**

Doesn’t all matter of nonsense come from all denominations?

At least Catholics will not ever accept in their denomination:

same-sex marriage
contraception
abortion
embryonic stem-cell research
euthaniasia

BTW, those are all mortal sins if done with your full knowledge and consent.


47 posted on 11/28/2011 10:42:19 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: CdMGuy

....Or if not that, and if there is a such a book, is there a book about the Catholic mass for “dummies” ?

I will do a search for such a book, besides the one by Dr. Sri.


48 posted on 11/28/2011 10:43:33 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: JohnC2004

Are you confusing the word “protection” with grace?

Grace comes from Christ through the Sacraments he instituted.

Baptism
Confirmation
Eucharist
Reconciliation
Anointing of the Sick
Matrimony
Holy Orders


49 posted on 11/28/2011 10:44:34 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: 47samurai

**(ok...I’m trolling just a bit!)**

LOL! Havew you learned anything yet?


50 posted on 11/28/2011 10:46:08 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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