Skip to comments.Following the Truth: A Biblical Roadmap To The One, True Church (Catholic or Open)
Posted on 11/28/2011 8:12:49 AM PST by Salvation
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Would this be why the Catholic Church altered the 10 commandments? The second commandment of not making or bowing down to graven images seems to be violated at each gathering.
Think the Lord doesn’t care about it? Read the Old Testament and see His rage against idolatry.
None of my Catholic friends even read their Bibles. Quite honestly, many of them have deeply lacked any type of work ethic.
Just for your reading pleasure, here’s the 2nd Commandment:
Do not make idols of any kind, whether in the shape of birds or animals or fish. You must never worship or bow down to them, for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God who will not share your affection with any other god! I do not leave unpunished the sins of those who hate me, but I punish the children for the sins of their parents to the third and fourth generations. But I lavish my love on those who love me and obey my commands, even for a thousand generations.
Also, read how the Lord didn’t want to establish a hierarchy, which you can read about in Judges and in Samuel. Isreal wanted a King. The Lord didn’t want them to have a king, but instead wanted to appoint judges to handle disputes. I don’t believe it’s the Lord’s will to have a hierarchial system as exists in the Catholic Church.
Please quit saying that the non-Catholics are not posting scriptural references. We are. You are just refusing to acknowledge them.
Please answer me about the omission of the 2nd commandment. I’m curious as to how this passes the smell test for most Catholics.
Did you miss NYer's post above?
Reality check ... Non-Catholic Clergy Abuse & Crimes
**None of my Catholic friends even read their Bibles.**
Well, we do!
I don’t believe that any denomination has a monopoly on the truth. And to say that any does is wrong.
I believe we will see Baptists, Catholics, Pentecostals, Lutherans, (insert Christian denomination here).
It’s through the Blood of Christ and nothing else. As far as needing to go through a priest for the forgiveness of our sins, “No man comes to the Father, except through the Son”. No one else is needed. Praise God for that!
Forces? Who ever told you that?! Celibacy is chosen, not forced - and - it is SCRIPTURAL. (1 Corinthians 7:32-35). Moreover, the Catholic Church has many married priests, the majority of which are found in the Eastern Churches. Yesterday, a seminarian visiting our parish, related the story of his journey to the priesthood. Coming from an Eastern Catholic Church, he explained how he had approached the option of married vs celibate. He CHOSE celibate, to emulate St. Paul.
Hope this clarifies your misunderstanding of the Catholic priesthood.
Some important scriptures:
Jesus answered, I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
I don’t need a priest or any other human to give me access to my heavenly Father.
What I need to be saved:
If you declare with your mouth, Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
Personally from what I’ve seen, many Catholics are not filled with the Holy Spirit. I’ve seen so many horrible work-ethic abuses that take place by my Catholic co-workers, and often wonder how they can reconcile this with their “faith”. Not to mention the abuses that have occurred throughout history by the Catholic church.
It’s heart-breaking. Thankfully, many people are opening their Bibles and reading God’s plan of salvation for themselves. Our church is filled with former Catholics who have found freedom. Praise you, Jesus!
Catch-22.Not even. Are you actually interested in the "how" or just taking cheap shots?
A. unless you are a prophet you can’t say that.
B. There are prominent US politicians who call themselves Catholics who not only embrace those ideas, they actively promote them. And their Catholic priests and Bishops apparently are perfectly ok with it.
I think you need to get some new Catholic friends or else start studying the truth about the Catholic Church.
You are believing those comic book things that get passed out at non-Catholic churches.
Please, one person above started with the encyclopedia.
Have you ever been to a Catholic Mass?
I invite you to attend one and feel the difference. You will be astounded at what the REAL PRESENCE of Jesus Christ feels like.
The bishops have reprimanded them and asked them not to receive Communion.
Actually these people have excommunicated themselves by supporting abortion, etc. They won’t be happy at their particular judgment, unless they have a death-bed re-conversion, that is.
They are not REAL Catholics, only CINOs.
Three whole posts berfore a fundie says something ignorant.
Your interpretation of 1 Cor. 7 doesn’t square with 1 Tim. 3:2...and other passages that I’m not going to take the time to look up, 1 Tim. 3:2 is all we need.
As to your claims that the RCC, and the Eastern Orthodox to a greater extent, are loosening up on celibacy, I’m sure altar boys everywhere are happy to hear that!
I have personally answered this question to you five times. You either don't like the answer of can't understand it but here goes for the sixth time.
Now pay attention to the Words of Jesus
Mat 16:18 And I also say unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. Mat 16:19 I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Mat 18:17 And if he refuse to hear them, tell it unto the church: and if he refuse to hear the church also, let him be unto thee as the Gentile and the publican. Mat 18:18 Verily I say unto you, what things soever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and what things soever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Mat 28:18 And Jesus came to them and spake unto them, saying, All authority hath been given unto me in heaven and on earth. Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit: Mat 28:20 teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.
Jesus promises the Church will be built on Peter, that Church will have authority and the succesors ofthe apostels willhave that same authority. seems pretty clear.
Mar 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to the whole creation. Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that disbelieveth shall be condemned.
Tells the apost4els to spread th word.
Here is the authority he gave to the aposltes and their succesors.
(forgiving sins) Joh 20:23 whose soever sins ye forgive, they are forgiven unto them; whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
(Offer the sacrifice of the Mass) 1Co 11:23 For I received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which he was betrayed took bread; 1Co 11:24 and when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, This is my body, which is for you: this do in remembrance of me.
(Speak with God's own voice)Luk 10:16 He that heareth you heareth me; and he that rejecteth you rejecteth me; and he that rejecteth me rejecteth him that sent me.
(power to legislate)Mat 18:18 Verily I say unto you, what things soever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and what things soever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
(power to discipline)Mat 18:17 And if he refuse to hear them, tell it unto the church: and if he refuse to hear the church also, let him be unto thee as the Gentile and the publican.