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Paraguay bishop denounces cell phones
ABC 13 ^
| 12/2/2011
| AP
Posted on 12/02/2011 1:44:18 PM PST by Alex Murphy
Bishop Claudio Silvero says the devices are "accursed and tools of sin"....
[SNIP]
....mobile phones ease access to pornography and aid in "inappropriate relations." He says about 40 percent of Christian families suffer damage "because of the bad use of cellular phones and the Internet."
His campaign is not shared by many in the church. Cell phones are common among Vatican officials and the church has produced some of its own applications for them.
(Excerpt) Read more at abclocal.go.com ...
TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: bishop; catholic; cellphones; claudiosilvero; paraguay; romancatholic
Bishop Claudio Silvero says the devices are "accursed and tools of sin"....mobile phones ease access to pornography and aid in "inappropriate relations"....Cell phones are common among Vatican officials and the church has produced some of its own applications for them. Excerpted due to AP authorship.
To: Alex Murphy
His Eminence is right.
To: Alex Murphy
mobile phones ease access to pornography and aid in "inappropriate relations." He says about 40 percent of Christian families suffer damage "because of the bad use of cellular phones and the Internet."So your opinion is that bad use of cellular phones and the Internet do not do damage to Christian Families?
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posted on
12/02/2011 1:50:41 PM PST
by
frogjerk
(OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)
To: Alex Murphy
He’s blaming both cell phone and internet. How about video cassettes and DVDs? There are a lot of ponr in those format!
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posted on
12/02/2011 1:55:27 PM PST
by
paudio
(0bama is like a bad mechanic who couldn't fix your car; he just makes it worse. Get somebody else!)
To: Alex Murphy
I was going to say he'd have a lot in common with
these Saudi clerics but then I realized it was you and thought, "Alex is just being anti-Catholic again."
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posted on
12/02/2011 1:56:47 PM PST
by
heartwood
To: frogjerk
So your opinion is that bad use of cellular phones and the Internet do not do damage to Christian Families? That's not the argument being advanced. The bishop does not criticize their "bad use" per se, but rather that their very nature will lead to behavior that causes damage to Christian families. He claims that the phones themselves are "accursed".
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posted on
12/02/2011 2:00:48 PM PST
by
Alex Murphy
(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2703506/posts?page=518#518)
To: heartwood
I was going to say he'd have a lot in common with these Saudi clerics but then I realized it was you and thought, "Alex is just being anti-Catholic again." How does the bishop's argument make me anti-Catholic?
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posted on
12/02/2011 2:02:39 PM PST
by
Alex Murphy
(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2703506/posts?page=518#518)
To: Alex Murphy
It doesn’t. Your chosen posts do.
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posted on
12/02/2011 2:09:27 PM PST
by
heartwood
To: Revolting cat!
It’s not the phone, it’s the user.
Cars are used to pick up prostitutes and also to carry on illicit relationships.
Do we denounce these?
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posted on
12/02/2011 2:11:30 PM PST
by
Jonty30
(If a person won't learn under the best of times, than he must learn under the worst of times.)
To: All
How does the bishop's argument make me anti-Catholic? Oh yeah, I forgot:
The Vicar of Christ is the Vicar of God; to us the voice of the Pope is the voice of God. This, too, is why Catholics would never dream of calling in question the utterance of a priest in expounding Christian doctrine according to the teaching of the Church..."
-- Henry G. Graham, "What Faith Really Means"
(Nihil Obstat:C. SCHUT, S. T.D., Censor Deputatus, Imprimatur: EDM. CANONICUS SURMONT, D.D.,Vicarius Generalis.
WESTMONASTERII, Die 30 Septembris, 1914, reported at www.catholictradition.org
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posted on
12/02/2011 2:12:36 PM PST
by
Alex Murphy
(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2703506/posts?page=518#518)
To: Alex Murphy
well, texting to the non-covenant partner, yeah, I can see his point
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posted on
12/02/2011 2:22:23 PM PST
by
yldstrk
(My heroes have always been cowboys)
To: heartwood; Alex Murphy
It doesnt. Your chosen posts do. Posting the edicts of an approved Bishop in the Roman Catholic Church makes one anti-Catholic?
That's like saying eating meat makes one a member of PETA.
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posted on
12/02/2011 2:23:12 PM PST
by
Gamecock
(I am so thankful for [the] active obedience of Christ. No hope without it. JGM)
To: Alex Murphy
What's the source of that nihil obstat and imprimatur? Neither appears on the page you linked.
To: Alex Murphy
This, too, is why Catholics would never dream of calling in question the utterance of a priest in expounding Christian doctrine according to the teaching of the Church. Did you miss the restrictive clause? The "accursed" status of cellphones is this bishop's opinion, it is not "Christian doctrine according to the teaching of the Church".
Cellphones save lives. They can also save time. They can also be used as tools to commit grave sins.
In that, they're like a lot of other things ... cars, computers, guns, television ...
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posted on
12/02/2011 2:57:59 PM PST
by
Campion
("It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins." -- Franklin)
To: Alex Murphy
Well, I guess that since porn is often printed on paper, then paper is “accursed and tools of sin”...
This bishop is a moron, much like the anti-gun crowd that blames inanimate objects (guns) for the sins of people.
Can you imagine how much REAL respect this fool gets? Who would ask advice of such a dunderhead? Likely, only those who don't know any better.
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posted on
12/02/2011 3:20:59 PM PST
by
Mister Da
(The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
To: Alex Murphy
t's not the argument being advanced. The bishop does not criticize their "bad use" per se, but rather that their very nature will lead to behavior that causes damage to Christian families. He claims that the phones themselves are "accursed".How odd is the bishop's thinking. A THING in itself is incapable of being evil. I guess he is equating the cell phone with the fig tree that Jesus cursed, which made that particular fig tree "accursed," not ALL fig trees. The bishop thinks that the cell phone itself is, by its nature, "accursed." How Biblical of him. Where does he get the authority to call all cell phones accursed? That's a pretty big curse for one small bishop. Odd thinking when the Internet, T.V. and movies have been such huge doors to pornography, both the making and viewing. On the whole: odd logic.
I seriously doubt that our beloved Panzer Pope would say anything so stupid.
To: Campion
Did you miss the restrictive clause? The "accursed" status of cellphones is this bishop's opinion, it is not "Christian doctrine according to the teaching of the Church". In which case, how does it rise to the level of being "anti-Catholic" to post the Bishop's non-binding, non-doctrinal opinions?
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posted on
12/03/2011 12:36:01 PM PST
by
Alex Murphy
(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2703506/posts?page=518#518)
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