Posted on 12/03/2011 9:01:00 AM PST by GonzoII
The subject of my original post, which is called out in the title of the article/tread, is whether the translation "surpasses all expectations" and is a "spectacular success". The author begs the question of whose expecations? Who defined the measure of success? I pointed out that the author has made himself the subjective standard of success. Your question redirected the focus away from the authors' subjective tastes and onto mine. Neither opinion matters. FWIW, nor does yours.
My original post had in mind last week's thread titled Well Actually, Hes Not Talking to You. Answering One Critique of the New Translation. The "success" of the new translation cannot be IMO defined or measured by the parishioners' standards, because they are not the intended audience. Parishioners are the "senders", not the "receivers" of the worship in question. If the locus of the Mass is God Himself, then the measure of success has to be defined by God Himself.
The author does not prove or demonstrate that God was pleased with the worship offered. The author instead offers evidence that the author himself was pleased with it. The author has made himself the locus and center of the Mass.
This past weekend, the music minister said that those attending the vigil and the early morning Sunday mass was still messinng up in a few words of the new words. The midmorning mass, the one I had attended yesterday, was a bit better. :)
My husband and two of the teenagers had no comment, so obviously things went as smoothly as ever. Even they would have noticed if Father had stood at the altar in a puzzlement! I’ll be taking all the children to Mass on Thursday morning, and I’ll tell them in advance to listen carefully to the prayers.
Even my parish priest joked when he heard a little baby crying, he said that is how he felt about dealing with the new 3rd English Roman Missal words changes.
We had a liturgical ministers’ meeting a couple of weeks ago to discuss the implementation, and Father said he thought it would do him good to be forced to pay more attention.
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