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In-your-face atheists attempting new marketing strategy
Jewish World Review ^ | 12/12/2012 | Dianna M. Nanez

Posted on 12/12/2011 12:41:21 PM PST by Former Fetus

Freddie Schineller is a hip-looking math professor with a salt-and-pepper goatee. His artist wife, Holly, has long blond hair and stays home to take care of their four kids, ages 8-12.

The middle-class family lives in a modest Tempe home full of lots of love, noise and pets, including two dogs and a python named Monty.

Their bookshelves hold works by Plato, Leo Tolstoy and Franz Kafka, as well as the Book of Mormon and a Bible.

But Holly and Freddie don't believe in G0d. And, earlier this year, they decided it was time to "come out of the closet" in a big way about who they are.

After a family meeting, the Schinellers volunteered to appear on a Phoenix-area billboard for a campaign by the Freedom From Religion Foundation, a national group that aims to boost social acceptance of atheists and spotlight the growing numbers of non-religious Americans.

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Chandler resident James Woods, who is blind, describes himself as agnostic. His billboard says: "Faith without reason is true blindness."

Answer: "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. (Heb. 11:1)

Joe Hernandez of Phoenix calls himself a vegan, microbiologist and atheist.

Answer: So? I am a molecular biologist and a born-again Christian!

Will someone sponsor some "answer" billboards for me? LOL

1 posted on 12/12/2011 12:41:25 PM PST by Former Fetus
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To: Former Fetus

Is it reasonable to conclude that the Universe created itself from nothingness for no reason? One of the researchers who cracked the Human Genome opined that conclusion was as rational as a hurricane blowing through a Junk Yard and leaving a fully functional Jumbo Jet in its place.


2 posted on 12/12/2011 12:47:43 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Former Fetus

Just once, I’d like to see these atheists place a billboard near a Mosque or near a black church in the ‘hood.


3 posted on 12/12/2011 12:49:55 PM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Former Fetus

Its tough to be and Atheist recruiter. No holidays, nothing to believe in and when you die, well, you die. No sale here.


4 posted on 12/12/2011 12:52:54 PM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: Former Fetus

Seeing those cute little kids in the picture reminds me of the old KKK pictures where you have a little boy, no more than 5 or 6, in a KKK robe. Both are disgusting.


5 posted on 12/12/2011 12:53:35 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Former Fetus

Reason points unmistakably toward Deism. The roots of atheism are almost always moral not intellectual.


6 posted on 12/12/2011 12:54:00 PM PST by circlecity
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To: Former Fetus
including two dogs and a python named Monty

If both dogs and the python are all named Monty, who do you distinguish them?
7 posted on 12/12/2011 12:54:58 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (May Mitt Romney be the Mo Udall of 2012.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

“who do you” should be “how do you”


8 posted on 12/12/2011 12:56:17 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (May Mitt Romney be the Mo Udall of 2012.)
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To: Former Fetus

Well isn’t that special?

And a python named Monty around children? No thanks.


9 posted on 12/12/2011 1:01:07 PM PST by Ole Okie
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To: 70th Division

Why are out-of-the-closet atheists so kneejerkedly anti-Christian? If the existence of G-d is beyond their frame of reference, why the fury over Nativity scenes?

“What do you call an atheist’s funeral?”

“All dressed up and no place to go!”

;^)


10 posted on 12/12/2011 1:04:51 PM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: Former Fetus
These atheist have one year to get Christmas taken off the federal Holiday list. I'm sure they'll get lots of support from people who don't want to get holiday pay for it next year. hypocrites
11 posted on 12/12/2011 1:06:04 PM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

Not to mention no one to cry out to in the throes of passion. . .

Imagine. . . .you’re in bed, and at climax, your partner screams out “Oh Logic !! Oh Reason !! . . . .”

I don’t think so, either. . . . (grin)


12 posted on 12/12/2011 1:09:19 PM PST by Salgak
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To: Le Chien Rouge

Not to mention no one to cry out to in the throes of passion. . .

Imagine. . . .you’re in bed, and at climax, your partner screams out “Oh Logic !! Oh Reason !! . . . .”

I don’t think so, either. . . . (grin)


13 posted on 12/12/2011 1:09:48 PM PST by Salgak
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To: 70th Division

Not to mention no one to cry out to in the throes of passion. . .

Imagine. . . .you’re in bed, and at climax, your partner screams out “Oh Logic !! Oh Reason !! . . . .”

I don’t think so, either. . . . (grin)


14 posted on 12/12/2011 1:10:24 PM PST by Salgak
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To: Salgak

*snicker*


15 posted on 12/12/2011 1:12:54 PM PST by SoKatt ("Change" is not a strategy!)
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To: Former Fetus
It's fascinating that we have atheists coming out of the woodwork lately (and perverts - coincidence?) and they have to get on the bandwagon against faith rather than just minding their own business.

As other posters have intimated, believing that life was initiated and then guided by the laws of chance alone is incomprehensible. Those odds are longer than being struck by lightning each day for several thousand years while winning the Powerball each week.

Atheists are sad souls and almost certainly not mathematicians or Program managers. People who actually design stuff understand full well all of the factors required for a successful system to exist.

16 posted on 12/12/2011 1:14:29 PM PST by Chainmail
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To: Former Fetus
It's fascinating that we have atheists coming out of the woodwork lately (and perverts - coincidence?) and they have to get on the bandwagon against faith rather than just minding their own business.

As other posters have intimated, believing that life was initiated and then guided by the laws of chance alone is incomprehensible. Those odds are longer than being struck by lightning each day for several thousand years while winning the Powerball each week.

Atheists are sad souls and almost certainly not mathematicians or Program managers. People who actually design stuff understand full well all of the factors required for a successful system to exist.

17 posted on 12/12/2011 1:14:54 PM PST by Chainmail
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To: Former Fetus

Trouble with an open mind is your brains fall out.


18 posted on 12/12/2011 1:18:20 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: Salgak

You’re killing me here. LOL Way too funny. I liked the other post too.

“What do you call an atheist’s funeral?”

“All dressed up and no place to go!”


19 posted on 12/12/2011 1:19:24 PM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: Former Fetus

One way for atheists to foster understanding would be for them to stop demanding that every cross on public property be torn down.


20 posted on 12/12/2011 1:23:03 PM PST by GSWarrior (Businessmen are more trustworthy than politicians, professors and preachers.)
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To: Former Fetus
Would you rather go though life believing in God and find out at the end that you were wrong?

or

Would you rather go through life not believing in God and finding out at the end that you were wrong?

Put me into the first camp.

21 posted on 12/12/2011 1:26:07 PM PST by GSWarrior (Businessmen are more trustworthy than politicians, professors and preachers.)
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To: Former Fetus

From the article: “Love plus critical thinking equals open minds.”

That’s a typical and not-so-subtle atheist assertion that you’re, well, just SMARTER than believers.

Also from the article: you’ve got books by “Plato, Kafka and Tolstoy” on your shelves. But guess what? THEY WERE BELIEVERS. All of them.

I guarantee you’re not smarter than those guys. And while we’re at it, you’re also not smarter than Einstein, Newton, and Shakespeare — believers all.

So that argument is demolished. What else have you got, geniuses?


22 posted on 12/12/2011 1:28:28 PM PST by Blue Ink
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To: Blue Ink

The FOOL says in his heart there is no God.


23 posted on 12/12/2011 1:32:44 PM PST by crghill (Silly Mormons, God is triune.)
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To: Chainmail
What fascinates me is that atheists, instead of quietly going about their business, feel the need to evangelize their faith.

Why?

Unlike, say Christians or even Muslims, there is no God commanding that they spread the Good News. So what is their motive?

Could it be “Satan”? Just curious.

24 posted on 12/12/2011 1:36:50 PM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: chesley
I'm not a psychologist but my best guess is that they are hoping that someone will finally convince them that there is more to life. Or maybe you're right - the devil's whispering in their ears.

A while ago I was assigned to a remote UN post with Soviet officers alongside us Americans. Some of them thought it'd be fun to try to convince us how atheism was all there was. I would wait until we were one-on-one in our outpost and work through the math with them on the probablity of a self-sustaining cell occurring on its own with the ability to ingest, digest, process, excrete, and replicate itself using 30,000 code elements within its DNA chain. Every one of them - all diehard communists - conceded that the odds were beyond astronomical. Some of those Sovs very discretely asked me to arrange for their baptism and I got it done.

25 posted on 12/12/2011 1:55:20 PM PST by Chainmail
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To: chesley
I'm not a psychologist but my best guess is that they are hoping that someone will finally convince them that there is more to life. Or maybe you're right - the devil's whispering in their ears.

A while ago I was assigned to a remote UN post with Soviet officers alongside us Americans. Some of them thought it'd be fun to try to convince us how atheism was all there was. I would wait until we were one-on-one in our outpost and work through the math with them on the probablity of a self-sustaining cell occurring on its own with the ability to ingest, digest, process, excrete, and replicate itself using 30,000 code elements within its DNA chain. Every one of them - all diehard communists - conceded that the odds were beyond astronomical. Some of those Sovs very discretely asked me to arrange for their baptism and I got it done.

26 posted on 12/12/2011 1:55:38 PM PST by Chainmail
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To: Former Fetus

See, this is why folks that believe in God get pissed at agnostics and atheists.

“Faith without reason is true blindness.”

The presumption by agnostics and atheists that my faith isn’t based on reason and evidence - I reject their premise. Just because I can’t convince an atheist or agnostic that my reasons are valid, does not inherently mean they are not valid reasons. It may just mean the atheist/agnostic deliberately refuses to see them as reasonable, or is not convinced they are, or is not equipped to determine that my beliefs are based in reason. The atheists/agnostics own subjective personal biases may prevent them from saying they are reasonable, as what is “reasonable” varies from person to person.

The bible is full of history and time after time has been proven correct - from archaeology and history. There’s no evidence for this king, then something is discovered that confirms the bible is true.


27 posted on 12/12/2011 1:59:33 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: GSWarrior

The atheists and agnostics don’t want to do that because if there really is no God (which is wrong), then trying to live a Christian life really crimps their lifestyle un-necessarily. They have to really try to be nicer to people and get along, and not just do whatever the heck they want to anyone whenever they want, and it also means the absolutes of right and wrong are real, and that means they can never do some things without it always being regarded morally as wrong.

It basically stops them from no limits, do whatever the hell you want. (Which by the way is the credo of Satanists - it’s on their satanic bible. “Do what thou wilt”)


28 posted on 12/12/2011 2:06:03 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Blue Ink

It’s this condescending attitude that is their underlying flaw. Like Christians dont’ examine their faith. Like we all just believe because we can’t handle life without a crutch.

I tell you what, if I wanted to blindly believe in something without any evidence or reason to, I’d VOTE FOR OBAMA.


29 posted on 12/12/2011 2:09:10 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Former Fetus

The chickens of the Radical Reformation come home to roost.


30 posted on 12/12/2011 2:13:44 PM PST by rzman21
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To: Chainmail

Please accept my sincere congratulations and envy ( I mean that it a GOOD way) for what you have accomplished through Christ and the Holy Spirit.


31 posted on 12/12/2011 2:16:11 PM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: chesley

We all do what we can. I was just happy to have had the opportunity to help. My greatest pleasure was to be the Godfather of several Russian children too!


32 posted on 12/12/2011 2:33:09 PM PST by Chainmail
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To: Le Chien Rouge

...”I’d like to see these atheists place a billboard near a Mosque or near a black church in the ‘hood.”

That’s right! Let the atheists speak for every American when it comes to Islamic extremism.


33 posted on 12/12/2011 2:36:14 PM PST by equaviator ( "There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: Former Fetus

woop dee doo

Who gives a rip

Most of the private school kids my kid attends school with are equally as “cool”

They can all party in the hereafter

Together


34 posted on 12/12/2011 2:49:17 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Chainmail

Cool! I would like to see that math... and keep it for future use, if you don’t mind.


35 posted on 12/12/2011 2:56:55 PM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Dr. Sivana

LOL...grammar is our friend.


36 posted on 12/12/2011 2:58:21 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Former Fetus

I will go back into my notes and send them to you.


37 posted on 12/12/2011 3:03:22 PM PST by Chainmail
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To: chesley

Lucifer thought he was superior to God too. The superiority complex of atheists come from confusion. They confuse folk tales/fairy tales, Hans Christian Anderson, The Brothers Grim with the Bible, with God, faith, miracles and Jesus. They confuse magic with miracles. And they don’t understand that coincidences are really answers to somebody else’s prayers.


38 posted on 12/12/2011 3:12:10 PM PST by This I Wonder32460
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To: Secret Agent Man

“I tell you what, if I wanted to blindly believe in something without any evidence or reason to, I’d VOTE FOR OBAMA.”

Exactly.


39 posted on 12/12/2011 3:47:04 PM PST by Blue Ink
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To: Former Fetus
Atheists around here have adopt-a-highway signs.

Reminds me to pray for them every time I see one.

40 posted on 12/12/2011 4:36:22 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Chainmail

I find it interesting that this family has 4 children instead of the common atheist 1.0 or “child-free”. Then again, Gene Roddenberry’s “Homo Sapiens Invictus” or “nietzschean” genetically engineered human race was atheist and Darwinist - and their highest honor was “father” and having lots of kids.


41 posted on 12/12/2011 5:38:43 PM PST by tbw2
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To: Chainmail

Thanks!


42 posted on 12/12/2011 5:47:00 PM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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They put a reality TV show on about Muslims. Will they have one about jolly normal happy non-bigoted atheists next? Atheist proselytizing is so ugly.

43 posted on 12/12/2011 9:41:32 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah

But if they weren’t bigoted, how would we know they were atheists?


44 posted on 12/12/2011 11:06:10 PM PST by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: Former Fetus
But Holly and Freddie don't believe in G0d. And, earlier this year, they decided it was time to "come out of the closet" in a big way about who they are.

Yeah, they're such heroes.......

After a family meeting, the Schinellers volunteered to appear on a Phoenix-area billboard for a campaign by the Freedom From Religion Foundation, a national group that aims to boost social acceptance of atheists and spotlight the growing numbers of non-religious Americans.

Victim mentality raises its ugly head yet again.

Ask me if I care.

45 posted on 12/13/2011 4:11:45 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Former Fetus
Philippians 1:15-18 15 Some indeed preach Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from good will. 16The latter do it out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. 17The former proclaim Christ out of rivalry, not sincerely but thinking to afflict me in my imprisonment. 18What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice.

Let them rant against God. It just puts God in the forefront of everybody else's minds anyway.

They can't rant against Him without talking about Him. You can't promote a negative or lack without mentioning the positive.

46 posted on 12/13/2011 4:18:30 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: 70th Division
Everyone believes in something, whether it is God or gods, or their ability to attain nirvana, or to ascend, or "in the force". We even have people who believe in the party ideology, in the "nation", in the power of history, in their "race", in the power of science/technology (another god) etc

at the lowest end you have those who believe in their god the television and commercialism -- and they worship each Sunday at the mall.

47 posted on 12/13/2011 5:11:26 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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To: Chainmail

that’s why Russia today is increasingly returning to Christianity.


48 posted on 12/13/2011 5:30:10 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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To: Former Fetus
they decided it was time to "come out of the closet" in a big way about who they are.

Coming soon to a mandatory "celebrate diversity" workshop at a business near you.

49 posted on 12/13/2011 6:05:09 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Never mind.)
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To: Former Fetus
participants perceived atheists to be the least trustworthy and most likely to commit a crime

Maybe not the garden-variety crimes, but we have plenty of evidence for what often happens when certain kinds of atheists gain control of a country's government.

50 posted on 12/13/2011 6:08:50 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Never mind.)
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