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Some amazing facts here.
1 posted on 12/12/2011 4:22:04 PM PST by Salvation
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Catholic Ping for Our Lady of Guadalupe.

Did you know all these facts? I sure didn’t.


2 posted on 12/12/2011 4:25:08 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Fascinating!


4 posted on 12/12/2011 4:41:47 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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9 posted on 12/12/2011 5:37:26 PM PST by narses
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Love this! I have my mother’s old picture of this miracle hanging in our kitchen.


15 posted on 12/12/2011 8:02:30 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG ...)
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Our priest this morning HAD to mention how bad the Spaniards were. He mentioned Mary's apparition as a means to convert the Spaniards from their evil ways.

He did NOT mention that the Aztecs practiced human sacrifice, killing about 20% of their infants in sacrifice. [I heard THAT on EWTN at the same time I heard MUCH of what you wrote here, Salvation.]

Our Blessed Mother came to CHANGE the Aztec culture, end the murder of their children. Her image has the black sash of impending motherhood. She DID end the human sacrifice...and some 9 million Indians were converted over a very short period of time.

Lesson to the USA: we murder, via abortion, about 25% of our unborn babies which makes us WORSE than the un-evangelized Aztecs. We could use Mary's help here, couldn't we?

Wonderful post, Salvation. It's no wonder she is revered so much by the Mexicans. It's a living miracle that we can see by a visit to Mexico City....not too far away.

17 posted on 12/12/2011 8:40:59 PM PST by cloudmountain
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In his 02 December 2011 article, “The Tilma of Guadalupe: A Scientific Analysis,” Br. Thomas Mary Sennott does *not* assert that anything was added “by human hands.” He quotes Dr. Philip Serna Callahan, a biophysicist at the University of Florida, who allegedly examined and photographed the image in 1979, to that effect.

Brother Thomas then presents some very good arguments in rebuttal of those assertions. “Callahan’s conclusions regarding extensive human additions to the tilma might well be true, but I suspect he is overdoing it. This suggestion of a seventeenth century date for most of them can’t possibly be true. In 1570, just thirty-nine years after the apparition, Archbishop Montúfar sent King Philip II of Spain a copy of the miraculous Image which was placed in the flagship of Admiral Andrea Doria in anticipation of the Battle of Lepanto. This copy is now enshrined in the Church of San Stephano in Aveto, Italy. The Lepanto Image is identical to the original Miraculous Guadalupe Image, which means that any additions had to have been made well before 1570.”

This indicates that any additions made could not have postdated 1570, which casts doubt on the assertion of any additions “by human hands” at all.

As for the statement that the retina expands and contracts rather than the pupil, well, I was a translator long enough to know how this sort of error can creep in. I’d bet the farm that the original document uses the word for “pupil” in whatever language it is written.

It doesn’t seem very “scientific” to me to take a typo as proof that an assertion is false.

As for the careful establishment of Dr. Callahan’s bona fides as a Catholic, lots of people don’t understand that there are Catholics who regard such things as embarrassing superstitions and are as fervent to cast doubt upon them as the most tendentious of skeptics.


19 posted on 12/12/2011 8:51:13 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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bumpus ad summum


23 posted on 04/24/2013 9:46:00 PM PDT by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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