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The Isaiah 9:10 Prophecy: Is U.S. Under God's Judgment?
WorldNetDaily ^ | December 13, 2011 | Unattributed

Posted on 12/14/2011 4:23:11 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta

A messianic rabbi from New Jersey is stunning audiences nationwide by revealing the striking parallels between the fall of ancient Israel and what he suggests are God's early judgments of America.

Jonathan Cahn of the Jerusalem Center-Beth Israel Congregation in Wayne, N.J., says an otherwise obscure passage in the Book of Isaiah is since Sept. 11, 2001, being uncannily re-enacted in the U.S. just the way it originally played out in the time of the great prophet of Israel leading to the nation's captivity and dispersions.

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"Before its destruction as a nation, ancient Israel received nine harbingers, prophetic omens of warning," he says. "The same nine harbingers are now manifesting in America with immediate ramifications for end-time prophecy."

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1 posted on 12/14/2011 4:23:13 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

A historic parallel to today is pre-exile Israel and Judah.

Lots of open sin, and the people of God were worshipers but not followers.


2 posted on 12/14/2011 4:27:23 PM PST by lurk
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To: lurk
As good a place as any to put this here
3 posted on 12/14/2011 4:32:57 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

I think it it striking that both Tom Daschle and John Edwards quoted this is complete error. They obviously did not understand the context of the Scripture here in Isaiah 9:10 or they would never have quoted it.


4 posted on 12/14/2011 4:35:24 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; ...

MORE THAN a little likely, sadly.

I believe the Rabbi and the links below are going to turn out dreadfully more accurate than our worst fears might imagine. I pray not. However, my inner person registers truth in their predictions.

—When OThuga the Marxist globalist Destroyer in Chief flaunts his arrogance, his homosexual liasons, his hatred of Israel and love of satanic Islam—courting a back-door serious Muslim friendship with Iran’s I’mANutJob . . .

—babies by the thousands continue to be murdered;

—greed and corruption run rampant through the leadership at corporate and Federal levels;

—sexual acting out of the worst sorts is increasingly glorified and flaunted;

—God is increasingly mocked and dismissed;

. . .

a limit gets reached with God rather quickly in spite of His long suffering nature.

The following outline attacks by China and Russia et al . . . along with other ‘disciplines’ to befall our shores in the not distant future. I believe they will turn out to be far truer than even our enemies might wish:

Ruby Duby’s videos on YouTube are . . . interesting. I believe she is an authentic watchman on the wall and that she hears accurately from The Lord. She does not claim to be a prophet—just a watchman. Anyway—she’s the sort of non-star quality sort of person The Lord seems to delight in using in such roles.

Many prophetic sources have seen components of her series that this first link is the first one of. Anyway—FWIW and your prayerful discernment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3bhHjUAatA&feature=related

Dimitru Duduman’s classic warning about China and Russia attacking is here:

http://www.handofhelp.com/vision_36.php

Worth monitoring is:

http://www.standeyo.com

He’s a great Christian as is his wife. He worked on . . . exotic craft . . . in Australia . . . I think through a connection with Edward Teller. He also has an interesting map from Hopi Elders which is quite similar to that from the Navy that John Moore uses in his talks—that Cherokee Disaster Preparedness Director Cherokee Tim Spencer has verified as authentic from when he saw it in the Navy submarine forces. Of course, none of the above can be true, by definition. /sarc


5 posted on 12/14/2011 4:44:04 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

I don’t think there is much doubt of that.


6 posted on 12/14/2011 4:46:39 PM PST by Grunthor (We dont LOVE Newt - heck we barely even like him. He's just the best of a rotten bunch)
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To: F15Eagle

INDEED. I think the Rabbi is quite accurate.


7 posted on 12/14/2011 4:46:44 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

“flaunts his arrogance, his homosexual liasons, his hatred of Israel and love of satanic Islam”

Agree on most of that but how has he “flaunted” his homosexual liasons?


8 posted on 12/14/2011 4:50:54 PM PST by Grunthor (We dont LOVE Newt - heck we barely even like him. He's just the best of a rotten bunch)
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To: Grunthor

Killing one of his faithful

‘servicers’ early on.

Having Whitehouse staffers on the Federal payroll just for that role.


9 posted on 12/14/2011 4:56:50 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Wow, this is the first I’ve heard of any of that.


10 posted on 12/14/2011 4:59:22 PM PST by Grunthor (We dont LOVE Newt - heck we barely even like him. He's just the best of a rotten bunch)
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To: Grunthor

“Body” man Reggie Love.


11 posted on 12/14/2011 5:02:57 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: Quix
The Isaiah 9:10 Prophecy: Is U.S. Under God's Judgment?

The entire world is under God's judgment. And his solution?

"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

And

God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
12 posted on 12/14/2011 5:34:12 PM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan

Sooooooooooo

Daniel, Ezekiel and Revelation are not in your Bible?


13 posted on 12/14/2011 5:40:21 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Grunthor

Check out the choir murders in Chicago. And yes, it’s true there are people on “staff” who are said to be in relationship with the top administrator.


14 posted on 12/14/2011 5:43:14 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Fortunately, we are still under his mercy as a nation. Someday though we’ll get what we deserve.


15 posted on 12/14/2011 5:44:09 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: yldstrk

“said to be in relationship with the top administrator.”

Said by whom?


16 posted on 12/14/2011 5:46:08 PM PST by Grunthor (We dont LOVE Newt - heck we barely even like him. He's just the best of a rotten bunch)
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To: Grunthor

I don’t know, not trying to prove evidence in a court of law, just passing a rumor on. You don’t have to believe it.


17 posted on 12/14/2011 5:58:11 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
As a nation? Yes I believe we are currently under judgment. We are lead by some of the most foolish leaders in our nations history. As a nation we have turned our back on GOD. Our leadership directly reflects our national morality. We went from prosperity in the early 1980's with The Moral Majority too almost national bankruptcy and a morally bankrupt congressman helped lead the way.

GOD does judge nations and has done so since man being tossed from Eden. As a nation we are sadly mistaken if we think we think as a nation we are exempt. Even our Founding Fathers many Deist understood that there is our creator "GOD" and He laid the basis for our laws for mankind and as a nation.

It is our duty too choose our leaders wisely based on their personal character as well as their stands on issues. It starts with your vote. Don't vote for political expedience yu'll loose every time as will the nation. Doing such the past two decades got us too this point along with the now rapid moral decline. Vote on the principle in faith. GOD can handle the rest.

18 posted on 12/14/2011 6:08:38 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: knarf
I just shared the video you linked with my husband. He's amazed with it like I was when I saw it.

I wish every Christian and Jew in the US could see it and quickly cast off the spirit of defiance that is so strong in the US right now. Every Christian I know senses the nature of this time America faces. Our society and culutre have moved so far from God.

19 posted on 12/14/2011 6:41:10 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Quix

Kuwaiti Abdallah Nafisi oozes with evil. He takes such delight in hatred and murder with chemical weapons. He represents the spirit of Islam that is behind the lies and curtins. Gross.


20 posted on 12/14/2011 7:26:58 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2820596/posts

Here’s link to a decent set of Bible study notes on the topic.


21 posted on 12/14/2011 7:51:50 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: SaraJohnson
Send it to everyone you know and ask them to do likewise.

My sister sent that to me this morning and I am making every effort for it to go viral

22 posted on 12/14/2011 7:58:43 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
The Isaiah 9:10 Prophecy: Is U.S. Under God's Judgment?
WorldNetDaily ^ | December 13, 2011 | Unattributed

Consider the source. "Weirdnetdaily, your daily source for spiritual oddities and rank nonsense."

23 posted on 12/14/2011 8:07:47 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("Do not feed the Harpies")
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To: knarf

Okay.


24 posted on 12/14/2011 8:14:21 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

bump


25 posted on 12/14/2011 8:44:07 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Israel is real:))
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!


26 posted on 12/14/2011 9:24:12 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: All; GiovannaNicoletta
Gio-Wow! Thank you once again!!That video is amazing! Watch it to the very end. You will miss something very important. The Spirit of God within tells me this is true.

I had a national dream I will never forgot during the New Years eve night before Obama was elected. It will all happen under Obama.Which the video has implied. Which means we have within a year or if relected 4 years(?) for this to happen.

In my dream he was alone with just secret service around his limo. He looks up at an invading army of thousands parachuting out of planes. I then look up and see what he sees then look down and see his face look at me. Like we are toast. I have written about this before. I hope I am wrong but I do believe. I had specific dreams come true before but personal not national. This is the first national dream I ever expereinced.

Pray!Witness! I have told family and friends awhile ago hardly anybody disagreed like something is in the air. The Lord is slowly warning people, like with this Article and video.

27 posted on 12/14/2011 9:43:38 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

I am posting on my facebook page. Thanks.


28 posted on 12/14/2011 9:45:46 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: All; GiovannaNicoletta
Isaiah Chapter 9

10 The bricks are fallen down, but we will build with square stones: they have cut down the sycamores, but we will change them for cedars. [Return to Original Document]

Parallel

RSV 10: "The bricks have fallen, but we will build with dressed stones; the sycamores have been cut down, but we will put cedars in their place."

NRSV 10 `The bricks have fallen, but we will build with dressed stones; the sycomores have been cut down, but we will put cedars in their place.'

Douay 10 The bricks are fallen down, but we will build with square stones: they have cut down the sycamores, but we will change them for cedars.

NAB 10 But the LORD raises up their foes against them and stirs up their enemies to action:

KJV 10 The bricks are fallen down, but we will build with hewn stones: the sycomores are cut down, but we will change them into cedars.

WEB 10 "The bricks have fallen, but we will build with hewn stone. The sycamore fig trees have been cut down, but we will put cedars in their place."

ESV 10 "The bricks have fallen, but we will build with dressed stones; the sycamores have been cut down, but we will put cedars in their place."

NASB 10 "The bricks have fallen down, But we will rebuild with smooth stones; The sycamores have been cut down, But we will replace them with cedars."

NIV 10 "The bricks have fallen down, but we will rebuild with dressed stone; the fig trees have been felled, but we will replace them with cedars."

YOUNG 10 `Bricks have fallen, and hewn work we build, Sycamores have been cut down, and cedars we renew.'

Greek 10: kai <2532> {AND} raxei <4475> {SHALL DASH DOWN} o <3739> {WHICH} qeoV <2316> {GOD} touV <3588> {THE} epanistanomenouV ep {UNTO} oroV <3735> {A MOUNTAIN} Siwn {OF ZION} ep {UNTO} autouV <1473> kai <2532> {AND} touV <3588> {THE} ecqrouV <2190> {THE ENEMIES} autwn <1473> {OF THEM} diaskedasei <1286> {HE SHALL EFFACE}

Vulgate 10 lateres ceciderunt sed quadris lapidibus aedificabimus sycomoros succiderunt sed cedros inmutabimus

ASV 10 The bricks are fallen, but we will build with hewn stone; the sycomores are cut down, but we will put cedars in their place.

Darby 10The bricks are fallen down, but we will build with hewn stones; the sycamore trees are cut down, but we will replace them with cedars.

NKJV 10 "The bricks have fallen down, But we will rebuild with hewn stones; The sycamores are cut down, But we will replace them with cedars."

Other Related Passages

Malachi 1 4: If Edom says, "We are shattered but we will rebuild the ruins," the LORD of hosts says, "They may build, but I will tear down, till they are called the wicked country, the people with whom the LORD is angry for ever." Library References

29 posted on 12/14/2011 10:01:36 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Here is the whole judgement in this Chapter of Isaiah.This is not pretty.

Isaiah 9:8The Lord sent a word into Jacob, and it hath lighted upon Israel.

9And all the people shall know, even Ephraim and the inhabitant of Samaria, that say in the pride and stoutness of heart,

10The bricks are fallen down, but we will build with hewn stones: the sycomores are cut down, but we will change them into cedars.

11Therefore the LORD shall set up the adversaries of Rezin against him, and join his enemies together;

12The Syrians before, and the Philistines behind; and they shall devour Israel with open mouth. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.

13For the people turneth not unto him that smiteth them, neither do they seek the LORD of hosts.

14Therefore the LORD will cut off from Israel head and tail, branch and rush, in one day.

15The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.

16For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed.

17Therefore the LORD shall have no joy in their young men, neither shall have mercy on their fatherless and widows: for every one is an hypocrite and an evildoer, and every mouth speaketh folly. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.

18For wickedness burneth as the fire: it shall devour the briers and thorns, and shall kindle in the thickets of the forest, and they shall mount up like the lifting up of smoke.

19Through the wrath of the LORD of hosts is the land darkened, and the people shall be as the fuel of the fire: no man shall spare his brother.

20And he shall snatch on the right hand, and be hungry; and he shall eat on the left hand, and they shall not be satisfied: they shall eat every man the flesh of his own arm:

21Manasseh, Ephraim; and Ephraim, Manasseh: and they together shall be against Judah. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.

30 posted on 12/14/2011 10:13:54 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

The whole bible is a God breathed reflection for the individual,and for all nations, a testimony to God’s will about his bringing about our turning away, and turning back to him.

There are numerous accounts.

When the bible speaks of Israel, it speaks to the world as well.

There is no momentous finding here.

They are selling a book.

Believe in Jesus Christ today.
Confess, repent, be baptized into the Holy Spirit.
He is God, by God’s own authority and he will judge the world.

Don’t be one of the people doomed to destruction. (Hell)


31 posted on 12/14/2011 10:25:56 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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To: SaraJohnson

INDEED.


32 posted on 12/14/2011 10:48:49 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix; GiovannaNicoletta

The Rabbi is right that we are under judgement
The nation as a whole is acting exactly like the northern kingdom did .

We are not under wrath yet but if the nation keeps going in the direction it is and does not repent it will be.

New York City has even invited it’s own destruction by allowing the Cordoba House project to be built near the Twin Towers site . The city has refused so many permits for churches for years but pushed this one right through.

David Wilkerson’s End-Time Vision
By David Wilkerson
http://www.bereanpublishers.com/End_Time_Prophecies/david_wilkerson%27s_end-time_vision.htm


33 posted on 12/15/2011 1:00:22 AM PST by Lera
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To: cva66snipe
It is our duty too choose our leaders wisely based on their personal character as well as their stands on issues. It starts with your vote. Don't vote for political expedience yu'll loose every time as will the nation. Doing such the past two decades got us too this point along with the now rapid moral decline. Vote on the principle in faith. GOD can handle the rest.

I really like how you said that. I like THAT you said it! (:

34 posted on 12/15/2011 3:03:32 AM PST by .30Carbine
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To: Quix
Daniel, Ezekiel and Revelation are not in your Bible?

The United States is not in Daniel, Ezekiel, or Revelation by any means but eisegesis.

Besides, all of God's promises (which, by definition, includes all prophecies), are "yes" in Christ. Jesus is the apocalypse of God's new plan for the world. Everything is coming through Jesus and his body of believers that are the front on this earth for the new heavens and the new earth. When the last gasp comes for the old earth and everything still in it, it'll be the final day, the day of the Lord, when Jesus, the Son of Man, appears in the sky with his angels and fire to extirpate evil from amongst his people before receiving them to himself and renewing everything else.
35 posted on 12/15/2011 4:26:38 AM PST by aruanan
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To: rabidralph

With all due respect, I believe that position has always been called the ‘body man’ for any President.


36 posted on 12/15/2011 6:05:55 AM PST by skoobedoo (Mr. Obama - if you act presidential, I will call you Mr. President.)
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To: Lee N. Field

http://youtu.be/XVrl2ZBlvWM


37 posted on 12/15/2011 6:36:53 AM PST by marbren (I do not know but, Thank God, God knows)
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To: lurk
Lots of open sin, and the people of God were worshipers but not followers.

That's the most succinct description of Laodiceanism that I've ever read. Hope you don't mind if I steal it.

Shalom

38 posted on 12/15/2011 6:38:34 AM PST by Buggman (returnofbenjamin.wordpress.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: Lera; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; auggy; ...
ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

In my experience and observation . . . those with hearts and eyes to see and ears to hear--are well aware and preparing and praying.

The following are typically varying degrees of blind and often very angry and hostile toward anyone who tries to wake them up with the truth. It's kind of like DENIAL with an alcoholic--a virtually sure sign of alcoholism. With the following sorts of people, their strong negative reaction to the truth is almost a sure sign of their willful blindness:

--Those without an adequate intimacy with Jesus.

--the terminally arrogant
--the Pharisees
--the self-righteous
--the smug in their own wisdom
--the self-sufficient

--those with an insecurity based desperate need to be right, to win at all costs, regardless

--the struttingly vain glorious
--the intellectual snoots
--the knowledge-is-god types
--the terminal deniers of reality
--the status-quo; comfort-is-god types
--the USA-is-god types
--the self-is-god types

--those addicted to living in a fantasy world with an image of God of their own making

--the terminally wishful thinkers

--those whose reality is based on the Main Stream Media propagandizers and deception units of the Marxist globalists

--those who were ignorantly and poorly taught the Bible--usually from an early age--and who have clung thoughtlessly and uncritically to what they were taught. Some have merely so clung as though to a life raft in a hurricane--woefully & foolishly failing to realize that the life raft is thoroughly inadequate.

--those addicted to their habitual ruts with a slavish mentality.

--Those terrified of &/or allergic to &/or past bloodied by change and who are often deluded that pretending the status quo will always be-can prevent change.

--The stubbornly contrary mentalities whose main thrill in life is to be gritchily contrary and crossways with whatever someone else is asserting.

--Those with an inadequate reverential awe/fear of God Almighty.

--Those so terrified of suffering that they must live in denial in order to sleep at night.

--Those living in la-la land.

--Those who think Alice’s rabbit hole is the best reality.

--Those who’ve defined the supernatural out of the Bible and out of their walk or fantasized walk with God Almighty.

--Those who’ve lived a life of lies so extensively and so long, that the truth is like a painfully piercing laser on their darkened hearts.

--Those who wouldn’t recognize THE TRUTH if it came up and kissed them on the lips.

--Those who are convinced they have it all figured out--usually without much thoughtful, prayerful 'figuring' at all.

--the terminally stupid, clueless, witless idiots--who are usually convinced that THEY are smarter than everyone else.

--. . .

Daniel 12:10
Many shall be purified, made white, and refined, but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand.

Proverbs 22:3
New Living Translation (NLT)

3 A prudent person foresees danger and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.

Proverbs 27:12
New Living Translation (NLT)

12 A prudent person foresees danger and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.

Proverbs 28:14
Happy is the man who is always reverent, But he who hardens his heart will fall into calamity.

Isaiah 45:7
I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I, the LORD, do all these things.’

Jeremiah 6:19
Hear, O earth! Behold, I will certainly bring calamity on this people— The fruit of their thoughts, Because they have not heeded My words Nor My law, but rejected it.

Jeremiah 18:17
I will scatter them as with an east wind before the enemy; I will show them the back and not the face In the day of their calamity.”

Jeremiah 25:29
For behold, I begin to bring calamity on the city which is called by My name, and should you be utterly unpunished? You shall not be unpunished, for I will call for a sword on all the inhabitants of the earth,” says the LORD of hosts.’

Jeremiah 26:3

Perhaps everyone will listen and turn from his evil way, that I may relent concerning the calamity which I purpose to bring on them because of the evil of their doings.’

Jeremiah 32:42
“For thus says the LORD: ‘Just as I have brought all this great calamity on this people, so I will bring on them all the good that I have promised them.

Amos 3:6
If a trumpet is blown in a city, will not the people be afraid? If there is calamity in a city, will not the LORD have done it?

Amos 9:10
All the sinners of My people shall die by the sword, Who say, ‘The calamity shall not overtake nor confront us.’

Obadiah 1:13
You should not have entered the gate of My people In the day of their calamity. Indeed, you should not have gazed on their affliction In the day of their calamity, Nor laid hands on their substance In the day of their calamity.

Proverbs 9:8
Do not correct a scoffer, lest he hate you; Rebuke a wise man, and he will love you.

Proverbs 9:9
Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be still wiser; Teach a just man, and he will increase in learning.

Proverbs 14:16
A wise man fears and departs from evil, But a fool rages and is self-confident.

Proverbs 17:10
Rebuke is more effective for a wise man Than a hundred blows on a fool.

Proverbs 26:12
Do you see a man wise in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.

Proverbs 29:9
If a wise man contends with a foolish man, Whether the fool rages or laughs, there is no peace.

Ecclesiastes 7:5
It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise Than for a man to hear the song of fools.

Ecclesiastes 8:5
He who keeps his command will experience nothing harmful; And a wise man’s heart discerns both time and judgment,

Ecclesiastes 10:12
The words of a wise man’s mouth are gracious, But the lips of a fool shall swallow him up;

Jeremiah 9:12
Who is the wise man who may understand this? And who is he to whom the mouth of the LORD has spoken, that he may declare it? Why does the land perish and burn up like a wilderness, so that no one can pass through?


39 posted on 12/15/2011 8:17:33 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta; Quix; All

December 15, 2011

SMALL STRAWS IN A SOFT WIND by MARSHA BURNS

Maintain right standing with Me, says the Lord. The days are evil, and you must stay in the flow of the Spirit or the works of the flesh will take you into darkness. Now is the time to take your position as a watchman and keep a constant vigil so that the enemy cannot plunder what should be your place of refuge. Your place of safety is in Me, in truth, in righteousness and peace. Guard your heart.

Proverbs 4:23
Keep your heart with all diligence, for out of it spring the issues of life.

http://ft111.com/


40 posted on 12/15/2011 8:27:25 AM PST by Joya (http://www.angelsonassignment.org/why_aoa.html)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

I watched that video for the first time just yesterday.

I had NO idea.

I also believe we are in judgement. I also honestly believe that we may well be past any hope of the Lord relenting. It would take such a monumental wave of repentance the likes of which has not been seen in decades. I believe it would also take, as the late David Wilkerson said, a President who is a ‘Josiah’. I say...quite sadly...that I do not see ANY of the current candidates having that quality.

The best we can do is pray and try to serve as witnesses to the goodness of the Lord and take as many to Heaven with us as we can before the hammer comes down.


41 posted on 12/15/2011 8:42:11 AM PST by hoagy62 ("Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff."-Frank Zappa)
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To: aruanan; Amityschild; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; HossB86; ...
I realize it's a 'slow learner' response to still be UTTERLY SHOCKED at this point on FR . . .

at the sight of incredibly Biblically ignorant, undiscerning, irrational, unhistorical, illogical, obtuse etc. responses to the BIBLICAL END TIMES Scriptures and events happening before our eyes.

At what point will such "Christians" wake up?

At The Rapture?

When the Mark of the Beast is mandated or beheadings?

When the 3rd Temple is rebuilt?

When the 7 year treaty between Israel and the Anti-Christ is signed?

When the Anti-Christ sets his image up in the 3rd Jerusalem Temple?

???WHEN???
AT WHAT POINT
DO THE TERMINALLY
BIBLICALLY CLUELESS
???WAKE-UP???
Or do they?

42 posted on 12/15/2011 8:46:11 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix; Cronos
I realize it's a 'slow learner' response to still be UTTERLY SHOCKED at this point on FR . . . at the sight of incredibly Biblically ignorant, undiscerning, irrational, unhistorical, illogical, obtuse etc. responses to the BIBLICAL END TIMES Scriptures and events happening before our eyes.

I'm glad to bring you to this looking-into-the-mirror experience. Perhaps there's still hope.
43 posted on 12/15/2011 9:25:11 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Quix

Many won’t wake up, that is scriptural too. Even the elect shall be deceived.


44 posted on 12/15/2011 9:28:16 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: aruanan
YOU'RE
SOOOOOO
!!!!TERMINALLY WRONG!!!!

ABOUT THE END TIMES ETC.

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45 posted on 12/15/2011 9:36:20 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

the entire world is under God’s judgement, not just the US. though note that the end of israel’s troubles did not end in teh end of the world, but the splitting first of Israel and then the loss of one portion.


46 posted on 12/15/2011 9:53:59 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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To: reaganaut
CLEARLY many stubborn, willfully blind, rebelliously clueless folks WILL BE DECEIVED. However,

I think that Scripture indicates that

WERE it possible, the elect would be saved.

I certainly don't read it as a certainty! Otherwise, logically, no one would be saved.

MAT 24:24:

New International Version (©1984)
For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible.

New Living Translation (©2007)
For false messiahs and false prophets will rise up and perform great signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even God's chosen ones.

English Standard Version (©2001)
For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

International Standard Version (©2008)
because false messiahs and false prophets will appear and display great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
For false Messiahs will arise and Prophets of lies, and they will give great signs so as to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
False messiahs and false prophets will appear. They will work spectacular, miraculous signs and do wonderful things to deceive, if possible, even those whom God has chosen.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; so that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

American King James Version
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; so that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

American Standard Version
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.

Douay-Rheims Bible
For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect.

Darby Bible Translation
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall give great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.

English Revised Version
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.

Webster's Bible Translation
For false Christs will arise, and false prophets, and will show great signs and wonders; so that, if it were possible, they would deceive the very elect.

Weymouth New Testament
For there will rise up false Christs and false prophets, displaying wonderful signs and prodigies, so as to deceive, were it possible, even God's own People.

World English Bible
For there will arise false christs, and false prophets, and they will show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the chosen ones.

Young's Literal Translation
for there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and they shall give great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, also the chosen.

Matthew 24:24
The Message (MSG)
The Arrival of the Son of Man

23-25"If anyone tries to flag you down, calling out, 'Here's the Messiah!' or points, 'There he is!' don't fall for it. Fake Messiahs and lying preachers are going to pop up everywhere. Their impressive credentials and dazzling performances will pull the wool over the eyes of even those who ought to know better. But I've given you fair warning.


47 posted on 12/15/2011 9:54:16 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Cronos
the entire world is under God’s judgement,

TRUE.

48 posted on 12/15/2011 9:56:32 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Actually I was referring to Revelation. I’m not saying not to try, I’m just saying that you won’t win them all over.


49 posted on 12/15/2011 10:06:45 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: reaganaut

LOL

I have NO

DELUSIONS

about THAT!

1% MIGHT be a miracle. Though I don’t want to limit Holy Spirit’s capacities even in hypothetical postulations!


50 posted on 12/15/2011 10:21:44 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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