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The apocalyptic prophecies of Hildegard of Bingen, the next Doctor of the Church [Catholic Caucus]
summorumpontificum.net ^ | 12/19/2011 | Brian Kopp

Posted on 12/18/2011 10:50:36 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM

Monday, December 19, 2011

The apocalyptic prophecies of Hildegard of Bingen, the next Doctor of the Church

By Brian Kopp

Earlier this fall, Pope Benedict XVI beatified Venerable Elena Aiello, bringing to light her little known prophecies, which have strong parallels to those of both Our Lady of Akita as well as statements Pope JPII and Cardinal Ratzinger made in the past regarding the Third Secret of Fatima. (See this earlier blog post for a summary of the parallels: For fourth anniversary of Summorum Pontificum, Pope draws attention to little known prophecies of Venerable Elena Aiello)


Now, Pope Benedict XVI is drawing attention to St. Hildegard of Bingen, by declaring her a Doctor of the Church.

In addition to her many accomplishments, St. Hildegard is also known for a number of apocalyptic prophecies:

THE MINOR CHASTISEMENT



"The time is coming when princes and peoples will reject the authority of the Pope. Some countries will prefer their own Church rulers to the Pope. The German Empire will be divided.  Church property will be secularised. Priests will be persecuted. After the birth of Antichrist heretics will preach their false doctrines undisturbed, resulting in Christians having doubts about their holy Catholic faith."




At that period when antichrist shall be born, there will be many wars and right order shall be destroyed on earth. Heresy will be rampant and the heretics will preach their errors openly without restraint. Even among Christians doubt and scepticism will be entertained concerning the beliefs of Catholicism



"Toward the end of the world, mankind will be purified through sufferings. This will be true especially of the clergy, who will be robbed of all property. When the clergy has adopted a simple manner of living, conditions will improve.



At this time as a punishment for their sins Christians especially will attempt armed resistance to those who at that time are persecuting them, sensing no concern for the death of their bodies.



"A powerful wind will rise in the North carrying heavy fog and the densest dust by divine command and it will fill their throats and eyes so they will cease their savagery and be stricken with great fear.



Then within the Christian people the Holy Godhead will accomplish signs and wonders as if accomplished them at the time of Moses with the pillar of cloud and as Michael the archangel did when he fought the heathen for the sake of the Christians. Because of Michael's help Gods faithful children will march under his protection. They will decimate their foes and achieve victory through Gods power As a result of this a large number of heathens will join Christians in true faith and they will  say   The God of the Christians is true God because such wondrous works have been accomplished among the Christians .



After that there will be so few men left that seven women will fight for one man, that they will say to the man: "Marry me to take the disgrace from me." For in those days it will be a disgrace for a woman to be without child, as it was by the Jews in the Old Testament.




"Before the Comet comes, many nations, the good excepted, will be scoured with want and famine. The great nation in the ocean that is inhabited by people of different tribes and descent by an earthquake, storm and tidal waves will be devastated.  It will be divided, and in great part submerged. That nation will also have many misfortunes at sea, and lose its colonies in the east through a Tiger and a Lion.



 The Comet by its tremendous pressure, will force much out of the ocean and flood many countries, causing much want and many plagues. [After the] great Comet, the great nation will be devastated by earthquakes, storms, and great waves of water, causing much want and plagues. The ocean will also flood many other countries, so that all coastal cities will live in fear, with many destroyed. All sea coast cities will be fearful and many of them will be destroyed by tidal waves, and most living creatures will be killed and even those who escape will die from a horrible disease.



For in none of these cities does a person live according to the laws of God. "Peace will return to Europe when the white flower again takes possession of the throne of France.




(See http://www.unitypublishing.com/aug24_98.html  for the White Flower)     



During this time of peace the people will be forbidden to carry weapons and iron will be used solely for making agricultural implements and tools. Also during this period the soil will be very productive and many Jews, heathens and heretics will join the Church.



"Peace will return when the Lily ascends the Throne again.  The land will be very productive . During this time weapons will be forbidden. Iron will only be used for agricultural tools. In this period the land will be very productive. Jews, heathen and heretics will join the church.




The throne of the last catholic Empire will crumble and the sceptre will fall out of the hand of him who sits on the throne. The Great Monarch by this time will be a very old man. All justice will cease and will be trodden under foot. The latter times will be more evil and corrupt in the eyes of God. Children of God will be persecuted by the most hateful means in the eyes of God. Almost immediately after the death of the Monarch comes antichrist        



 (Note: This in my opinion is the peace promised by Fatima - Richard Salbato)



ANTICHRIST



When the great ruler (the Great Monarch who is to rule Europe after the collapse of Communism) exterminates the Turks almost entirely, one of the remaining Mohammadans will be converted, become a priest bishop and cardinal, and when the new pope is elected (immediately before Antichrist) this cardinal will kill the pope before he is crowned, through jealousy, wishing to be pope himself; then when the other cardinals elect the next pope, 



(Note by Richard Salbato - this will be the last pope on earth - Peter the Second)



this cardinal will proclaim himself Anti-pope, and two-thirds of the Christians will go with him.  He, as well as Anti-christ, are descendants of the tribe of Dan.




An unchaste woman will conceive an unchaste son. The wicked serpent who deceived Adam will influence this child in such as way that nothing good or virtuous will enter him; nor under the circumstances will it even be possible for any good to be in him



The mark (of Antichrist) will be a hellish symbol of Baptism, because thereby a person will be stamped as an adherent of Antichrist and also of the Devil in that he thereby gives himself over to the influence of Satan.  Whoever will not have this mark of Antichrist can neither buy nor sell anything and will be beheaded.



He will win over to himself the rulers, the mighty and the wealthy, will bring about the destruction of those who do not accept his faith and, finally, will subjugate the entire earth.




The streets of Jerusalem, will then shine in the brightest gold with the blood of Christians which will flow like water.  Simultaneously Antichrist will try to increase his wonders.  His executioners will work such miracles when they torment the Christians that the people will think Antichrist is the true God.  The executioners will not permit the Christians to win the martyrs' crown easily for they will endeavour to prolong their pain until they renounce their faith.  Yet some will receive a special grace from God to die during the torments.



Antichrist will make the earth move, level mountains, dry up rivers, produce thunder and lightning and hail, remove the leaves from the trees and return them again to the trees, make men sick and cure them, exorcise devils, raise the dead to life.  He will appear to be crucified and rise from the dead.  All in all,  Christians will be astounded and in grievous doubts while the followers of Antichrist will be confirmed in their false faith.




Finally, when he shall have converted all his plans into action, he will gather his   worshippers about him and tell them that he will presently ascend toward Heaven.  However, at the moment of the ascension a bolt of lightning will overwhelm and annihilate him.  The planned ascent into heaven will have been prepared by the artful employment of ingenious devices, and the moment at which the event was to have taken place, leading to his destruction, will produce a cloud that will spread an unbearable odour.  Through this many people will again come to their senses and to understanding.



Then the people should prepare for the last judgment, the day of which is indeed veiled in secrecy and obscurity, but not far distant."




Henoch and Elias are being instructed by God in a mysterious manner in paradise.



(This is the same thing that Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich says of paradise and Henoch and Elias)



God shows them the works of men as though they could see these with natural eyes.  The two men are therefore, much wiser than all wise men put together.  The same force which removed Henoch and Elias from the earth will bring them back in a storm wind at the time when the Antichrist will spread his false doctrine.  As long as they will dwell amongst men they will always be refreshed after 40 days.  They have the mission from God to resist the Antichrist and lead the erring back to the road of salvation.  Both men, distinguished by age and stature, will speak to men: `This accursed one is sent by the devil in order to lead men into error.  We have been preserved by God at a secreted place, where we did not experience the suffering of men.  We are now sent by God in order to oppose. the heresy of this destroyer.  Look, if we resemble you in stature and age.'  And because the testimony of both shall agree they will be believed.  All will follow these two aged men and renounce heresy.  They will visit all cities and towns where previously the Antichrist had sown his heresy, and through the power of the Holy Ghost will work genuine miracles.  All the people will be greatly astonished at them.  Henoch and Elias will. confuse the followers of Satan with thunder strokes, and destroy. them and fortify the Christians in faith.  Therefore, the. Christians will hurry to martyrdom, which the son of evil will. prepare for them like to a banquet, so that the murderers will. grow tired of counting the dead on account of their great. numbers; for their blood will run like rivers. Henoch and Elias have been taught much wisdom and knowledge. in Paradise while awaiting their return to earth.  God will. instruct them every forty days while they are on earth.  They. will receive exceptional graces and powers from God to use. against Antichrist. / Enoch and Elias will be instructed by God in a most secret manner in paradise. God reveals to them the actions and condition of men that they may regard them with the eyes of compassion. Because of this special preparation, these two holy men are more wise than all the wise men on the earth  taken together. God will give them the task of opposing antichrist and of bringing back those who have strayed from the way of salvation. Both of these men will say to people:   This accursed one has been sent by the devil to lead men astray and into error; we have been preserved by God in a hidden place where we did not experience the sorrows of men but God has now sent us to combat the heresy of this son of perdition. They will go into all cities and villages where previously antichrist had broadcasted his heresies and by the power of the Holy Spirit will perform wonderful miracles so that all nations will greatly marvel at them. This as to a wedding feast, Christians will hasten to death by martyrdom which the son of perdition will have prepared for them in such numbers that those murderers will be unable even to count the slain, then the blood of these martyrs will fill the rivers




When the fear of God has been disregarded everywhere, violent and furious wars will take place.  A multitude of people will be slaughtered and many cities will be transformed into heaps of rubbish.



The Son of Corruption and Ruin will appear and reign for. only a short time, towards the end of the days of the world's duration; the period which corresponds to the moment when the sun has disappeared beyond the horizon; that is to say he shall come at the last days of the world.  He will not be Satan himself, but a human being equalling and resembling him in atrocious hideousness.  His mother, a depraved woman possessed by the. devil, will live as a prostitute in the desert.  She will declare that she is ignorant as to the identity of his father, and will. maintain that her son was presented to her by God in a. supernatural manner, as was the Child of the Blessed Virgin.  She will then be venerated as a saint by deceived people.




Antichrist will come from a land that lies between two seas, and will practise his tyranny in the East.  After his birth false teachers and doctrines will appear, followed by wars, famines, and pestilence. His mother will seldom let any one see him, and yet by magic. art, she will manage to gain the love of the people for him.



He will be raised at different secret places and will be kept in seclusion until full grown.  When he has grown to full manhood he will publicly announce a hostile doctrine on religion.  He will lure and attract the people to himself by granting them complete exemption from the observance of all divine and ecclesiastical. commandments, by forgiving them their sins and requiring of them only their belief in his divinity.  He will spurn and reject baptism and the gospel.  He will open his mouth to preach contradiction.  He will say, `Jesus of Nazareth is not the son of. God, only a deceiver who gave himself out as God; and the Church instituted by him is only superstition'.  The true Christ has come in his person.  He will say, `I am the Saviour of the. world'.  Especially will he try to convince the Jews that he is the Messiah sent by God, and the Jews will accept him as such.  His doctrine of faith will be taken from the Jewish religion and seemingly will not differ much from the fundamental doctrine of Christianity for he will teach that there is one God who created the world, who is omniscient and knows the thoughts of man and is just, who rewards the obeyers of his commands and the trespassers he chastises, who raises all from the dead in due time.  This God has spoken through Moses and the Prophets, therefore the precepts of the Mosaic laws are to be kept, especially circumcision and keeping the Sabbath, yet by his moral laws he will try to reverse all order on earth.  Therefore he is called in Holy Writ the `Lawless One'.  He will think that he can change time and laws. He will discard all laws, morals and religious principles, to draw the world to himself.  He will grant entire freedom from the commandments of God and the Church and permit everyone to live as his passions dictate.  By doing so he hopes to be acknowledged by the people as deliverer from the yoke, and as the cause of prosperity in the world.  Religion he will endeavour to make convenient.  He will say that you need not fast and embitter your life by renunciation, as the people of former times did when they had no sense of God's goodness.  It will suffice to love God.  He. will let the people feast to their heart's content so that they will pity the unfortunate people of former centuries.  He will preach free love and tear asunder family ties.  He will scorn everything holy, and he will ridicule all graces of the Church with devilish mockery.  He will condemn humility and foster proud and gruesome dogmas.  He will tear down that which God has taught in the Old and New Testament and maintain sin and vice are not sin and vice.  Briefly he will declare the road to Hell is the way to Heaven.




"After having passed a licentious youth among very perverted men and in a desert, she being conducted by a demon disguised as an angel of light, the mother of the son of perdition will conceive and give birth without knowing the father.  In another land, she will make men believe that her birth was some miraculous thing, seeing that she had not appointed a spouse, and she will ignore that, she will say, how the infant she had brought into the world had been formed in her womb, and the people will regard it as a saint and qualified to the title.



"The son of perdition is this very wicked beast who will put to death those who refuse to believe in him; who will associate with kings, priests, the great and the rich; who will mistake the humility and will esteem pride; who will finally subjugate the entire universe by his diabolic means.



"He will gain over many people and tell them: "You are allowed to do all that you please; renounce the fasts; it suffices that you love me; I who am your God."




"He will show them treasures and riches, and he will permit them to riot in all sorts of festivities, as they please. He will oblige them to practice circumcision and other Judaic observances, and he will tell them: "Those who believe in me will receive pardon of their sins and will live with me eternally."



"He will reject baptism and evangelism, and he will reject in derision all the precepts the Spirit has given to men of my part.



"Then he will say to his partisans, "Strike me with a sword, and place my corpse in a proper shroud until the day of my resurrection." They will believe him to have really given over to death, and from his mortal wound he will make a striking semblance of resuscitation.



"After which, he will compose himself a certain cipher, which he will say is to be a pledge of salute; he will give it to all his servitors like the sign of our faith in heaven, and he will command them to adore it. Concerning those who, for the love of my name, will refuse to render this sacrilegious adoration to the son of perdition, he will put them to death amidst the cruellest torments.



"But I will defend my two Witnesses, Enoch and Elias, whom I have reserved for those times. Their mission will be to combat the man of evil and reprimand him in the sight of the faithful whom he has seduced. They will have the virtue of operating the most brilliant miracles, in all the places where the son of perdition has spread his evil doctrines. In the meanwhile, I will permit this evildoer to put them to death; but I will give them in heaven the recompense of their travails.



"Later, however, after the coming of Enoch and Elias, the Antichrist will be destroyed, and the Church will sing forth with unprecedented glory, and the victims of the great error will throng to return to the fold."



"The Man of Sin will be born of an ungodly woman who, from her infancy, will have been initiated into occult sciences and the wiles of the demon. She will live in the desert with perverse men, and abandon herself to crime with so much the greater ardor, as she will think she is authorized thereby to by the revelations of an angel. And thus, in the fire of burning concupiscence she will conceive the Son of Perdition, without knowing by what father. Then she will teach that fornication is permitted, declaring herself holy and honoured as a saint.




"But Lucifer, the old and cunning serpent, will find the fruit of her womb with his infernal spirit and entirely possess the fruit of sin.



"Now when he shall have attained the age of manhood, he will set himself up as a new master and teach perverse doctrine. Soon he will revolt against the saints; and he will acquire such great power that in the madness of his pride he would raise himself above the clouds; and as in the beginning Satan said: "I will be like unto the most high", and fell; so in those days, he will fall when he will say in the person of his son, "I am the Saviour of the World!"



"He will ally himself with the kings, the princes and the powerful ones of the earth; he will condemn humility and will extol all the doctrines of pride. His magic art will feign the most astonishing prodigies; he will disturb the atmosphere, command thunder and tempest, produce hail and horrible lightning. He will move mountains, dry up streams, reanimate the withered verdure of forests. His arts will be practiced upon the elements, but chiefly upon man will he exhaust his infernal power. He will seem to take away health and restore it. How so? By sending some possessed soul into a dead body, to move it for a time. But these resurrections will be of short duration.



"At the sight of these things, many will be terrified and will believe in him; and some, preserving their primitive faith, will nevertheless court the favour of the Man of Sin or fear his displeasure. And so many will be led astray among those who, shutting the interior eye of their soul, will live habitually in exterior things...



"After the Antichrist has ascended a high mountain and been destroyed by Christ, many erring souls will return to truth, and men will make rapid progress in the ways of holiness."



"Nothing good will enter into him nor be able to be in him. For he will be nourished in diverse and secret places, lest he should be known by men, and he will be imbued with all diabolical arts, and he will be hidden until he is of full age, nor will he show the perversities which will be in him, until he knows himself to be full and superabundant in all iniquities.



"He will appear to agitate the air, to make fire descend from heaven, to produce rainbows, lightning, thunder and hail, to tumble mountains, dry up streams, to strip the verdure of trees, of forests, and to restore them again. He will also appear to be able to make men sick or well at will, to chase out demons, and at times even to resuscitate the dead, making a cadaver move like it was alive. But this kind of resurrection will never endure beyond a little time, for the glory of God will not suffer it.




"Ostensibly he will be murdered, spill his blood and die. With bewilderment and consternation, mankind will learn that he is not dead, but has awakened from his death-sleep.



"From the beginning of his course many battles and many things contrary to the lawful dispensation will arise, and charity will be extinguished in men. In them also will arise bitterness and harshness and there will be so many heresies that heretics will preach their errors openly and certainly; and there shall be so much doubt and incertitude in the Catholic faith of Christians that men shall be in doubt of what God they invoke, and many signs shall appear in the sun and moon, and in the stars and in the waters, and in other elements and creatures, so that, as it were in a picture, future events shall be foretold in their portents.



"Then so much sadness shall occupy men at that time, that they shall be led to die as if for nothing. But those who are perfect in the Catholic faith will await in great contrition what God wills to ordain. And these great tribulations shall proceed in this way, while the Son of Perdition shall open his mouth in the words of falsehood and his deceptions, heaven and earth shall tremble together. But after the fall of the Antichrist the glory of the Son of God shall be increased.



"As soon as he is born, he will have teeth and pronounce blasphemies; in short, he will be a born devil. He will emit fearful cries, work miracles, and wallow in luxury and vice. He will have brothers who are also demons incarnate, and at the age of twelve, they will distinguish themselves in brilliant achievements. They will command an armed force, which will be supported by the infernal legions.



"After the Son of Perdition has accomplished all of his evil designs, he will call together all of his believers and tell them that he wishes to ascend into heaven.



"At the moment of his ascension, a thunderbolt will strike him to the ground, and he will die.



"The mountain where he was established for the operation of his ascension, in an instant will be covered with a thick cloud which emits an unbearable odor of truly infernal corruption... At the sight of his body, the eyes of great number of persons will open and they will be made to see their miserable error.




"After the sorrowful defeat of the Son of Perdition, the spouse of my Son, who is the Church, will shine with a glory without equal, and the victims of the error will be impressed to re-enter the sheepfold.



"As to the day, after the fall of Antichrist, when the world will end, man must not seek to know, for he can never learn it. That secret the Father has reserved for Himself."



After Enoch and Elias suffer physical death the spirit of life will reawaken them raise them up into the clouds and the rejoicing of that man s followers (antichrist) will change into fear, sorrow and dismay. Then the son of corruption will gather together a large group of people in order that his glory can be openly shown forth. He will attempt to walk through the heavens so that any remnant of the catholic faith that might remain throughout the world might completely disappear. In the sight of crowds standing around and listening he will order the high strata of the sky to lift him up during his ascension into heaven and the words of my loyal servant Paul will be fulfilled and these are the words which Paul who is full of the spirit of truth says  and the lord Jesus will slay him with the breath of his mouth and will destroy him with his glorious appearance at his coming     when the son of corruption ascends on high through diabolical trickery he will be thrust down again by divine power. The fumes of sulphur and pitch will consume him such that the crowds standing nearby will flee into the mountains for protection. Such abject fear will seize all who see and hear these things that they will reject the devil and his spiritual son antichrist and be converted to the true faith by baptism.




The son of perdition will come when the day declines and the sun sinks, that is when the time arrives and the world loses its stability."

 
St. Hildegard's prophecies play a central role in the attachment of a certain segment of traditionalist Catholics to the idea of a return of Monarchy.


It is certainly possible to read too much into our Holy Father's recent actions, but one can't help but wonder if he's trying to tell us something.

ADDENDUM:


It is worth comparing part of St. Hildegard's prophecy,

The Comet by its tremendous pressure, will force much out of the ocean and flood many countries, causing much want and many plagues. [After the] great Comet, the great nation will be devastated by earthquakes, storms, and great waves of water, causing much want and plagues. The ocean will also flood many other countries, so that all coastal cities will live in fear, with many destroyed. All sea coast cities will be fearful and many of them will be destroyed by tidal waves
With the words of Pope John Paul II regarding Fatima (from a file at EWTN):


When people at Fulda,
Germany asked John Paul II in 1980 if the Third Secret of Fatima contained
a threat from God, the Pope responded:

"If there is a message in which it is said that the oceans will flood entire sections of the earth; that, from one moment to the other, millions of people will perish . . . there is no longer any point in really wanting to publish this secret message.

Many want to know merely out of curiosity, or because of their taste for sensationalism, but they forget that "to know" implies for them a responsibility. It is dangerous to want to satisfy one's curiosity only, if one is convinced that we can do nothing against a catastrophe that has been predicted....

(At this point the Holy Father took hold of his Rosary and said:) Here is the remedy against all evil! Pray, pray and ask for nothing else. Put everything in the hands of the Mother of God!"[9]

John Paul II's reply seemed to imply that a threat of flood is part of the Third Secret of Fatima.

Later, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger admitted in an interview with journalist, Vittorio Messori, that he had read the Third Secret of Fatima. Messori then tells how he questioned the Cardinal about the "secret":

"Undenied versions are circulating in the world, I continue, which describe the contents of that "secret" as disquieting, apocalyptic, as warning of terrible sufferings. John Paul II himself, in his personal visit to Germany, seemed to confirm (albeit with prudent circumlocutions, privately, to a select group) the undeniably disconcerting contents of that text. Before him, Paul VI, during his pilgrimage to Fatima, also seems to have alluded to the "apocalyptic" themes of the "secret." Why was it never decided to make it public, if only to counter rash speculations?"[10]

Cardinal Ratzinger's response, that revealing the Third Secret would add nothing necessary for the Christian to know and that it "would mean exposing the Church to the danger of sensationalism, exploitation of the content," also seemed to "confirm (albeit with prudent circumlocutions)" that the contents of the Third Secret of Fatima did contain those "disconcerting" messages.[11]



TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: antichrist; endtimesprophecy; fatima; hildegardofbingen; pope; popebenedict; popejohnpaulii; romancatholicism

1 posted on 12/18/2011 10:50:37 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Judith Anne; Cronos; wagglebee; dsc; Deo volente; MarkBsnr; Mad Dawg; ArrogantBustard; ...
"For your discernment."

I really think Pope Benedict XVI is trying to tell us something.

2 posted on 12/18/2011 10:58:30 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

For later


3 posted on 12/18/2011 11:06:41 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: self

ping


4 posted on 12/18/2011 11:11:57 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Fascinating...I have a problem with apocalyptic prophecies in general, I’ll have to look more specifically at this one.


5 posted on 12/18/2011 11:15:46 PM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
After reading this article, I hope there is a rapture before this starts? LOL!

A monarch if true could be from a line from old royalty of europe or new creation. If this is true to it's form I really believe America will be taken out of the way as a world power. Whenever it fully comes forth.

What makes sense is the next generation will automatically be fooled because they have been deceived with the Harry Potter witchcraft is harmless notions. I wear the blessed exorcism medal( ST. Benedict Medal) cross out in the open at times. People who can't stop noticing it are always new agers or enchanters with occultic symbols around their necks. That's when I witness to them.

Since wearing when at nite I sleep better than before.

Thank you for sharing. Much to think about.


6 posted on 12/19/2011 1:08:17 AM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
I also their is a reason for the Pope to use "Benedict" Name which is not by chance. Also look how he made the Creed more specific in the singular and also literally old form incarnation to protect "1 John 4" confession. You can only confess this by the Holy Spirit as true belief in Savior and Lord of Jesus Christ came in the Flesh/Humanity.

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I challenged an occultist( She declared herself a Christian) who could not pronouce or confess the creeds(Apostle or Nicene). She convulsed instead there are "many Gods" like an unseen force held her back.

Do you notice these Movies today with Greek and Roman(Many) Gods fantasy movies. Hhhmmm the enemy of our souls setting up to make his final grand horrible farewell like this article indicates to us. Without a doubt.

7 posted on 12/19/2011 1:29:17 AM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

I have to say that I think you’re on to something. His Holiness is careful, cautious, wide and deep. His words and actions are well-planned. And it again reminds one of the words from a favored sermon on Audio Sancto: be in a state of grace. Pray. Say your Rosary and three Hail Mary’s daily. Don’t sin.

Thank you for posting these.


8 posted on 12/19/2011 4:36:41 AM PST by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

>>It is certainly possible to read too much into our Holy Father’s recent actions<<

Yes, it is.
Just like JPII, this canonization is more a popularity contest. Had either been subject to the past criteria of canonization, I doubt either would be as far as they are now.

Hildegard has been “woohoo” popular with the Charismatics for ages. This is a nod to them that their style of worship is “okay” and not going anywhere. There is panic among some Charismatic groups that I know about the change in the missal.

IMO.

And besides, I’ll say to you what I say to the “Left Behind” people, We are not to know when the world is ending. Not even the Pope. He is not God, but a man.


9 posted on 12/19/2011 5:17:28 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
I've read only a very little about the coming Papal honor of Hildegard of Bingen as Doctor of trhe Church. From the little I'm reading, some of the "more traditional Catholics" are scoffing because they say Papa Benedict is pandering to the PC Left (claiming Hildegard was a feminist and an ecologist.)(Were these big issues in the 12th century?)

Meanwhile some of the the "more moderist Catholics" are likewise scoffing because they say Papa Benedict is continuing to build up reactionary traditionalism (Hildegard was very big on Liturgy, opposed to homosexuality and masturbation, and made powerful arguments against women in the priesthood.) (Were these big 12th century issues too?)

Fascinating. I too am sure B-16 has some very good reasons for throwing the spotlight on this brilliant Mater et Magistra!

10 posted on 12/19/2011 5:20:58 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (O viridissima virga ave!)
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To: johngrace

>>What makes sense is the next generation will automatically be fooled because they have been deceived with the Harry Potter witchcraft is harmless notions.<<

Oooooo, the Vatican will be too.

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1102767.htm


11 posted on 12/19/2011 5:27:24 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Judith Anne
Check this book out. The first half of the book is very helpful when looking into anything to do with prophecy, not just apocalyptic prophecies.

http://www.queenship.org/productdetails.cfm?PC=5660

Regards

12 posted on 12/19/2011 6:05:40 AM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: johngrace

What is the significance of that cross. I have one, but don’t know what all the letters are for. Does it have a name so I could look it up?


13 posted on 12/19/2011 7:21:30 AM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Dr. Brian Kopp; annalex
some of the "more traditional Catholics" are scoffing because they say Papa Benedict is pandering to the PC Left (claiming Hildegard was a feminist and an ecologist.)

I think the PC left are intentionally misinterpreting the life of St. Hildegard to make her in the image that they would like her to be. The fact that she is a canonized saint means that she is not a left-wing, radical feminist. There is a movie out about her, which I haven't seen yet, and I don't know how accurate the depiction of her is - Vision.

Pope Benedict's catecheses on St. Hildegard von Bingen:
On St. Hildegard: Cloistered Nun and Mystic with some additional information from annalex
A Continuing Reflection on St. Hildegard

14 posted on 12/19/2011 7:27:36 AM PST by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: johngrace

Plenty of old royals running around. The trick would be to find one with a legal claim (not needed really).


15 posted on 12/19/2011 7:41:44 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Excellence

Crux mihi lux

On the back of the medal, the cross is dominant. On the arms of the cross are the initial letters of a rhythmic Latin prayer: Crux sacra sit mihi lux! Nunquam draco sit mihi dux! (May the holy cross be my light! May the dragon never be my guide!).

In the angles of the cross, the letters C S P B stand for Crux Sancti Patris Benedicti (The cross of our holy father Benedict).

Peace

Above the cross is the word pax (peace), that has been a Benedictine motto for centuries. Around the margin of the back of the medal, the letters V R S N S M V - S M Q L I V B are the initial letters, as mentioned above, of a Latin prayer of exorcism against Satan: Vade retro Satana! Nunquam suade mihi vana! Sunt mala quae libas. Ipse venena bibas! (Begone Satan! Never tempt me with your vanities! What you offer me is evil. Drink the poison yourself!)

Use of the Medal

There is no special way prescribed for carrying or wearing the Medal of St. Benedict. It can be worn on a chain around the neck, attached to one’s rosary, kept in one’s pocket or purse, or placed in one’s car or home. The medal is often put into the foundations of houses and building, on the walls of barns and sheds, or in one’s place of business.

The purpose of using the medal in any of the above ways is to call down God’s blessing and protection upon us, wherever we are, and upon our homes and possessions, especially through the intercession of St. Benedict. By the conscious and devout use of the medal, it becomes, as it were, a constant silent prayer and reminder to us of our dignity as followers of Christ.

The medal is a prayer of exorcism against Satan, a prayer for strength in time of temptation, a prayer for peace among ourselves and among the nations of the world, a prayer that the Cross of Christ be our light and guide, a prayer of firm rejection of all that is evil, a prayer of petition that we may with Christian courage “walk in God’s ways, with the Gospel as our guide,” as St. Benedict urges us.

A profitable spiritual experience can be ours if we but take the time to study the array of inscriptions and representations found on the two sides of the medal. The lessons found there can be pondered over and over to bring true peace of mind and heart into our lives as we struggle to overcome the weaknesses of our human nature and realize that our human condition is not perfect, but that with the help of God and the intercession of the saints our condition can become better.

The Medal of St. Benedict can serve as a constant reminder of the need for us to take up our cross daily and “follow the true King, Christ our Lord,” and thus learn “to share in his heavenly kingdom,” as St. Benedict urges us in the Prolog of his Rule.


16 posted on 12/19/2011 10:59:07 AM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: Excellence

http://www.osb.org/gen/medal.html


17 posted on 12/19/2011 11:00:41 AM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: netmilsmom

http://www.newser.com/story/134298/vaticans-exorcist-yoga-is-satanic.html


18 posted on 12/19/2011 11:07:33 AM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: johngrace

Gabriele Amorth has a personal vendetta against Harry Potter. It’s been going on for years. Luckily Msgr. Peter Fleedwood, an expert on New Age and former official at the Pontifical Council for Culture said not to worry about it.

“Monsignor Fleedwood also recalls how he was first asked about Harry Potter at a press conference in the Vatican during the presentation of the New Age document by the title of “Jesus Christ, Bearer of the Water of Life” in February 2003.

Msgr. Fleetwood:

‘I’ve been asked by a lot of people if they should allow their children to read Joanna Rowling’s books about the trainee-magician Harry Potter. And the reason why they ask is that they’ve heard that some of the content is anti-Christian. I can’t see that personally. I was asked once in a press-conference in the Vatican whether I thought the witchcraft and magic in Harry Potter was a bad thing, and I said to the people present: ‘did anyone in this room grow up without stories about witches and fairies and magic and spells and mystery and so on and so forth?’, and everyone seemed to agree that none of us had grown up without those things. And then I said: ‘did it make us into enemies of the faith, or enemies of God, or enemies of the Church?’ And people seemed to say: ‘no, no’. And I said: ‘well, I can’t see any problem with Harry Potter, because, really, all the stories are about the victory of good over evil’. People say: ‘yes, but Harry uses magic spells!’ Well, that’s only a kind of literary device to keep children interested. It’s not putting forth a theory about magic. I know lots of teachers in England, and they’ve all said to me: ‘How remarkable! All of a sudden we don’t have to ask children to read books!’ There’s been a real craze. The unfortunate thing is, people call it a ‘cult book’ and then mad people say: ‘oh, it’s a cult’ - meaning a religious cult, and it’s not!

It’s just a fashion, because every child tells every other child: you should read Harry Potter. So they’ve all read all the books, and they all know all the details and so on and so forth. And the teachers I know in England just say simply: ‘isn’t it marvelous that kids want to read? We don’t have to force them to read’. And many parents have said the same thing.

And parents have asked me about Harry Potter’s books. I’ve always said: why don’t you read them? Or read them with your children, or read them to your children. Or you read them first and see if you can see anything bad.

I was sent a letter from a lady in Germany who claimed to have written to the then-Cardinal Ratzinger, saying that she thought Harry Potter was a bad thing. And the letter back, which I suspect was written by an assistant of the then-Cardinal Ratzinger in his office, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, suggested that there was a subtle seduction in the books. What that subtle seduction was, was not specified, which makes me think it was a generic answer. And she had written a book on these subjects and so the Cardinal’s signature was at the bottom of the letter, suggesting she should send me the book.

She sent me the book, and I found it a very unsatisfactory book. I don’t think she understands English humour. For example, she said: one sign that these books are making fun of Judaism and Christianity is that Voldemort, the wicked magician, who is the great evil power against whom Harry Potter has to fight, is referred to often as ‘he who must not be named’, and she takes this as an insult to the name of God in a similar way that Adonai, which is often written as Yahweh is the name that should not be said in Jewish religion. Well I replied to her: don’t you know that even within English families, men who make fun of their relationship with women in a nice, lighthearted way say: oh, she who should not be named, meaning the power in the house, their wife. You know, I think it was meant on that kind of level.

In any case though, the very people who complain about such things are the ones who would want priests above all, and teachers within the catholic faith, to speak about the devil, and to name the devil, rather then to speak of some abstract, evil force. Harry Potter is the only one, in the Harry Potter books, who names evil: Voldemort. The ‘flight of death’ if you like, that’s what his name literally means. So Harry is the one that doesn’t avoid naming evil, or naming the evil one. Harry is doing exactly what those people want, and showing by his lack of fear of evil, that he believes that goodness will triumph.

And in fact, Rowling’s books all follow the classical mythological pattern and good always triumphs over evil. She studied classical mythology at the university and uses that structure of myth as the basis of the way she writes her novels. She also was brought up as a Christian and I mentioned that in the famous press conference. People quoted that as saying that I had said that her books were imbued with Christian morals. I said no such thing. I simply suggested that there’s no ignoring your own background. I also said that she’s not the kind Christian your average zealous priest might want, in the sense of practicing religion every week, but there is no denying that she has a Christian background. I said no more.

And people have obviously worked of a strange translation of what I said in Italian. It is notable that the only complaints I got were from people using a translation. I don’t know who made that translation. They never asked me any questions about whether they got it right. They certainly didn’t understand what I’d said in the press conference. So I only whish there had been more time to talk then, but the press conference was about something quite different, and it was only one question that was blown out of proportion.

But I remain firmly convinced that the Harry Potter novels are very well written. They are written on the classical plot of good versus evil in the standard way that the old myths were written. The characters are built up around that: the goodies and the baddies so to speak, and I can’t see that that’s a bad thing for children, when goodness and the people on the side of goodness are portrayed as the ones who will eventually win. Harry’s enemies resort to all sorts of evil things, and they are the ones who loose in the end. I don’t see what’s wrong with that, and I can’t see that does any harm to children.

What my advice would still be to parents: if you’re in doubt, read the books yourselves, the first one, that’s the shortest one, and see what you think. Don’t simply rely on somebody else’s opinion, not even on my opinion, since it’s only an opinion. But it’s probably a good thing to enjoy it and to see that there are no evil influences there.

Some of the people who complain to me quote a priest who has worked in Rome and has been described as the exorcist of Rome, saying that evil is just behind every line in the books. Well, I answered that by saying: I’m a priest as well, I’m not as holy as that man, but his is an opinion and mine is an opinion, and neither of us automatically has a right to the opinion being more authoritative. I would say you’d have to prove a thing like that, when you say that evil is behind every sentence. I can’t see it.

Maybe I’m blind, as one article about me said, maybe I’m stupid and doing the devil’s work, as another article about me said. I have a funny feeling I’m not doing the devil’s work, and I have another feeling I am not blind or stupid. I just think that there’s a lot of scare-mongering going on, particularly among people who do like to find the devil around every corner. I don’t think that’s a healthy view of the world. And as I said before, I’m one of the people who would name the devil, I don’t keep the devil out of my preaching or out of my understanding of Christianity; I’m one of the few that would mention him, so I don’t know where these people get their mad ideas. And I do think do think they are mad ideas.
I think one has to be quite calm in judging cultural phenomena. I’ve got a funny feeling that the success of Rowling is what started some people. Is it a kind of envy? I don’t know. But why they got so mad against her, I just don’t understand.’”

http://www.jimmyakin.org/2005/07/vatican_radio_o.html

Yeah, the Vatican is made up of men with different opinions. Personally, I’ve read the books and watched the movies. So have my children. Yet, they attend Holy Mass, go to Benediction, attend our Catholic Youth club and my older one even volunteers in our Catechism program and is considering a life as a Dominican Sister of Mary.

We have been instructed not to live our lives in fear. The Lord is with us and I trust Him.


19 posted on 12/19/2011 12:34:13 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: netmilsmom
Look I know one kid who grew up on harry potter. Remember the books started in the nineties. He is now INTO THE OCCULT. He likes demons he tells me. He is not alone.

I use to read fantasy adult books. I always felt a weird spirit presence. I WOULD HAVE WEIRD IDEAS THAT WERE NOT MY OWN.I quit doing it. I hope and pray for these. The further we step away from the things of God the closer to the enemy influence UP TO AND INCLUDING POSSESSION. Heaven help us!

20 posted on 12/19/2011 1:10:46 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: johngrace

>>Look I know one kid who grew up on harry potter.<<

You know one kid. You know he read a series of books. There are many other factors in on that but it’s much easier to blame it on a book, because then we think we know what to avoid. And honestly if he tells you that he likes demons, it’s not from Harry Potter. No demons in it at all, just a bad human who chose evil. No amount of capital letters make that any different. Facts are very real.

My Goddaughter was born in 1989. She read the first of these books when she was 11. She attended Catholic school for 12 years and then went to Colunbia. She went to the Vatican and studied art. She has been dating a nice young man for six years and is still a virgin. Sorry, but I’ll take her as a perfect example for my girls.

I know many kids just like her. Because of her introduction to these books, my daughters and I know many “Harry Potter people”. I don’t know a single one of them into the occult. I know tons that are into Quiddich though and that is fine exercise.

The Lord told you to be not afraid. I do know people who hide from all those scary things. Me? I’ll choose to be a warrior for Christ.


21 posted on 12/19/2011 1:57:30 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
The apocalyptic prophecies of Hildegard of Bingen, the next Doctor of the Church [Catholic Caucus]
Pope to Canonize and Name Hildegard of Bingen as Doctor of the Church
A Continuing Reflection on St. Hildegard
On St. Hildegard: Cloistered Nun and Mystic
22 posted on 12/19/2011 4:27:01 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: netmilsmom
Dear Sister-

I read the books too. The first two. I do not read any more. If you bring your children up with a good foundation in Christ nothing will stop them. As long as they stay in Christ. But many more are trying the real occultic practices.

Do you see more psychic stores opening up? I did in my northern town now down here in south since being here in a year. I mean brand new ones. Look around it is all connected. You think that is good? It is danger. Wrong. Seductive evil.

Genesis 3

The Fall

1"Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

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4 “YOU will NOT CERTAINLY die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your Eyes will be Opened, and you will be Like God, knowing good and evil.”

6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves."

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“You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

*** Oh the sweet whispering! What do you thinking the god of this world uses to get an edge on people. This is one of them. This whole life is a trial for real Godly wisdom until the end.

I will go by the vatican exorcist who knows the enemy better than you and me. I will be praying for us. The more I pray in Christ the more I can see the subtle ways of the enemy.

sub·tle (stl)

adj. sub·tler, sub·tlest

1.

a. So slight as to be difficult to detect or describe; elusive: a subtle smile. b. Difficult to understand; abstruse: an argument whose subtle point was lost on her opponent.

2. Able to make fine distinctions: a subtle mind.

3. a. Characterized by skill or ingenuity; clever.

b. Crafty or sly; devious.

c. Operating in a hidden, usually injurious way; insidious: a subtle poison.

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Philippians 4:6-7

"Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus."

Let's make sure without a doubt we have the Peace of God which comes from prayers which will guard our hearts and minds.

Praise Jesus!!

23 posted on 12/19/2011 11:31:39 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: johngrace

>>I will go by the vatican exorcist who knows the enemy better than you and me.<<

I’ll go with Msgr. Peter Fleedwood, an expert on New Age and former official at the Pontifical Council for Culture who was advising the exorcists. None of whom are against this Children’s literature.

You and Fr. Amorith can link HP to New Age and the occult to your hearts content but they are two different animals just like marriage between a man and a woman and gay marriage. You can find similarities if you want to find them.

My daughter went to my Priest who told her that Harry Potter is fine as long as it is not a “guide”. It’s not. If you weren’t looking for the devil in those books you would see that the magic is a talent. Not something that can be developed nor can one “sell your soul” to get the talent. You would see that the villain in the book, chose evil, as many humans do and lost his humanity because of it.

I would think that someone as knowledgeable as you are about the occult and New Age would be thrilled to use these books to teach lessons to young people. If you truly deal with young people, use these books to show the consequences of sin. Stop looking for the evil that is not there. Lead them away from the New Age with a tool that they have already.

If you dismiss Harry Potter, then you must never watch Wizard of Oz because of Glinda the Good Witch or God Forbid you pick up any of the Lord of the Rings series. There is an awful lot of magic flowing around there.

May I suggest a book?
http://www.amazon.com/Mystery-Harry-Potter-Catholic-Family/dp/1592763987

You will see the Catholic pov on these books here. Then your passions can be used against true evil. Not the evil you imagine. The Devil has powers to use what seems reasonable and twist it.

Ever think he is twisting Harry Potter?


24 posted on 12/20/2011 6:39:01 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: netmilsmom

To each his own just always pray for your family. I know what I know there are real hidden spells in those books just research it properly. The characters say them literally. You do not have that in Tolkien books. Good bye. Freeper Cheers!


25 posted on 12/20/2011 12:01:14 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: johngrace

>>I know what I know there are real hidden spells in those books just research it properly. <<

Oh for heaven’s sake, the spells are Latin. My daughters have studied latin for four years and get a big kick out of finding the words that Rowlings used for her “spells”. They are verbatim Conversational (not liturgical) Latin and are exactly what each “spell” is supposed to do. Some are misspelled like ‘Lumos’ was spelled wrong from Latin to English. ‘Luminos’, however, means ‘bright’ and lights their wands like a flashlight. The exception is the “killing spell” which is Avada Kedavra and it’s a play on Abaracadabara.

Who is feeding you this garbage?

If you are Catholic and read these books, you had to recognize the Latin.

Are you not Catholic or haven’t you read the books?


26 posted on 12/20/2011 8:03:41 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: redgolum

For later........me too.


27 posted on 08/11/2012 7:14:32 PM PDT by diamond6 (Check out: http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/home.php and learn about the faith.)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

ping to read later


28 posted on 10/26/2013 8:07:31 AM PDT by Mercat
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