Vanity: Beware of False Prophets, False Prophecy

Excerpts from http://bible.cc/matthew/7-15.htm ^

[Elsie]

I'm sure that somewhere, someone knows what in the heck you are talking about, but you lost me.

We ANTI's (as we are lovingly called) have a LOOOONG history of battle here with MORMONs who do not like anyone to buck up against them.

Both sides are well aware of the references given.

[Elsie]

record?

RECORD:

 Smith had voluntarily surrendered to the authorities at the county seat at Carthage to face the charges that he was accused of.

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Joseph_Smith

[Scoutmaster]

LOL! I have NO CLUE! It was a curious question on my part.

Actually, you now have the answers. I didn't Google, but I welcome you to read ALL sources and you'll find out that my rather tongue-in-cheek answers were correct. The circumstances of the death of Brigham Young are still considered something of a mystery. It's not 100% certain he was poisoned by a wife, but it's almost certain he died of arsenic poisoning due to arsenic administered over a long period of time. After his death, the LDS-owned Deseret News reported it was appendicitis to quell long rumors that he was poisoned. The story gets longer after it involves the grandson of another LDS prophet, and private writings of LDS physicians. He was poisoned. But it's not the kind of thing you want to tell your Church members about your prophet.

[metmom]

Paul says in Galatians 1

Galatians 1:6-9 6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.

Jesus said that He was the Father.

John 14:8-9 8 Philip said to him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” 9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

John 10:29-33 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”

31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you going to stone me?” 33 The Jews answered him, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.”

Preaching a different Jesus, one who is a separate entity from the Jesus of the NT is preaching another Christ. Jesus is not the half-brother of Satan by God's union with His spirit wives.

Emmanuel = God with us; God come in the flesh.

[Scoutmaster]

Merry Christmas, Jim. Yes, it applies to Joseph Smith, Jr., Brigham Young, and all of the other ‘Presidents”/”Prophets” of the Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

[bigheadfred]

Ah, Elsie. What you post is spot on. I dinna ever disagree with that. What I disagree with is that ALL Mormons are the same. Just as any other religious group are ALL the same. And shouldn’t be lumped into one defining category. Just like so many things in life, people are forced by circumstance. And the face they show the world isn’t what is in their hearts.

Merry Christmas, Elsie. Merry Christmas.

[metmom]

2 Corinthians 11:13-15 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15 So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.

[gitmo]

If you look a the Book of Job, you see that Satan isn’t quite the bad guy we think of today.

Say what?

He started out killing all of Job's servants. Then he killed Job's sons and daughters. That was just the first attack by this "not quite bad guy".

Job 2:7 So Satan went out from the presence of the LORD and afflicted Job with painful sores from the soles of his feet to the crown of his head.

The torture went on for a long time. Job's skin turned black and he burned with fever. He wandered the countryside at night because of the pain.

Satan tormented this man simply because he was faithful to God. He did this in an attempt to get him to curse God. He tried to drive a man from God. This is the ultimate in hatred.

By the way, God made hell especially for this guy. Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels' (Matthew 25:41).

Jesus' brother?

[PieroC]

Peter 12:24:11 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in fairness’ clothing, but inwardly they are taking from the weak and giving to the gods.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

False Mormon prophets placemarker

[Saundra Duffy]

“I do not understand how so many would believe what they believe that satan was Jesus brother ????!!!”

Who created satan?

[Saundra Duffy]

Jim, I don’t think you will be flamed very much as most of the Mormons have been banned from this site. You will get nothing but pats on the back by the anti Mormon brigade, and they are legion.

[gitmo]

That is one of the bravest posts I’ve ever read. Make up your own religion, then bet your eternal soul on it being right.

[bigheadfred]

What are you talking about?

[metmom]

To me, the promise of the Christ means there is no failure. No one is left behind, and a lot of the hellfire and brimstone stuff is something out of a medieval nightmare.

So Jesus was lying when He talked about hell and eternal torment and few there are that find eternal life?

Who knew?

I think that qualifies you as a false prophet.

Hmmm.... let me see. Do I believe Jesus or you?

[BipolarBob]

Satan created Satan. God created Lucifer who chose to sin which transformed him from a beautiful angel to a fallen Satan.

[bigheadfred]

You believe what you want. More importantly, believe what others tell you.

You ought to be smart enough to apply context.

Another one.

I bow my head and knee.

[philman_36]

If they made it into this book which I read many years ago, and they do, they qualify in my book.

Since the first edition was published in 1965, Walter Martin's The Kingdom of the Cults has been the leading reference work on the major contemporary cult systems.

Merry Christmas to you and yours.